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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
October 18 2021 12:08 GMT
#1681
23rd is the deadline for the grace period Evergrande missed on their last payment. If they can't make it by then they have to default.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 18 2021 22:17 GMT
#1682
SEC Report on GME is out.

https://www.sec.gov/files/staff-report-equity-options-market-struction-conditions-early-2021.pdf
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
October 20 2021 18:38 GMT
#1683
btc ath wee

pretty sure gonna hit somewhere between 2000 and 3000% returns this yr
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
October 20 2021 19:55 GMT
#1684
Ahh man BTC. I was pondering buying a fractional share when I took my profits from doge.

I know shit all when it comes to crytpo but it’s hard to ignore the hype and fomo.
Skol
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-21 01:04:52
October 21 2021 01:04 GMT
#1685


This is quite interesting and informative I think. Burry is betting against crypto.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
October 21 2021 09:33 GMT
#1686
On October 21 2021 04:55 Emnjay808 wrote:
Ahh man BTC. I was pondering buying a fractional share when I took my profits from doge.

I know shit all when it comes to crytpo but it’s hard to ignore the hype and fomo.


conviction is pretty important, theres a reason why some ppl are so overly allocated

if you don't have the same conviction and fundamental reasoning as to why that is, then yeah it's all just gambling and fomo/greed

if you're in for the right reasons then most people feel they are still *incredibly* early
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
October 21 2021 10:51 GMT
#1687
On October 21 2021 03:38 BrTarolg wrote:
btc ath wee

pretty sure gonna hit somewhere between 2000 and 3000% returns this yr


20-30x on Bitcoin in 2 months? Im super curious what makes you think that.

On October 19 2021 07:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
SEC Report on GME is out.

https://www.sec.gov/files/staff-report-equity-options-market-struction-conditions-early-2021.pdf


Good summary in a short video




On October 21 2021 10:04 Manit0u wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHXPa2K97PU

This is quite interesting and informative I think. Burry is betting against crypto.


I've been following his twitter rants over the last months or so and I tend to agree with him on pretty much everything, from general outlook on the economy to crypto. However, I think most people think that the crash is imminent and can happen tomorrow, but that's not how markets, including the crypto markets work. It will come when no one expects it.

I've been in crypto since 2014, but what Im seeing in the last 2 years worries me too, mostly the cult like behavior and dismissal of valid concerns like Tether for instance, the adoption of BTC as legal tender in El Salvador via a custodial wallet, which completely goes against decentralization as one company controls all the wallets just like a bank, yet the crypto maximalists who preach decentralization are in favor of this? Makes absolutely no effin sense imo. People who raise these valid concerns are ridiculed and market participants either ignore them or dismiss them as FUD. That is a recipe for a disaster imo and we have plenty of examples in the past where that type of behavior leads to lots of people getting rekt. I think that's what Burry is betting against, basically betting against the irrationality of the market participants.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
October 21 2021 12:00 GMT
#1688


I'm about as far as it gets from a Bitcoin believer or whatever, but the calls for a crash of crypto markets are honestly just funny by now. Of course it'll crash at some point -- and then bubble up again, and crash again, and so on. It's the world's most accessible and most fair casino, and as such, it isn't going anywhere; fundamentals shmundamentals be damned.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-21 13:01:30
October 21 2021 13:00 GMT
#1689
Seems like it will be a very red day.



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
October 21 2021 13:13 GMT
#1690
https://www.tradingview.com/x/kylu4VFj/

Similar shit on FTX and Kraken, 52k and 54k wicks. I was trying to see the trade history on Binance US to see if it was some kind of glitch or some orders were actually filled, but of course you can't do that because you can only see the last 50 or so trades. Its a casino indeed, but to call it fair is dishonest at best and incredibly naïve at worst.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-21 13:30:57
October 21 2021 13:30 GMT
#1691
Nothing dishonest about those wicks, really. It's a shitty game with shitty rules, but that doesn't make it dishonest. It's up to you to figure out how those things work and how to use them to your advantage rather than getting mauled. Compared to the stock market or indeed actual casinos, crypto stuff is for sure way more genuine even with all the shady shit that goes on there (and of that there is plenty).
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 21 2021 13:30 GMT
#1692
Now we wait and see how exposed HSBC, UBS, and BlackRock are to China Evergrande.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
October 22 2021 00:38 GMT
#1693
On October 21 2021 19:51 FreakyDroid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2021 03:38 BrTarolg wrote:
btc ath wee

pretty sure gonna hit somewhere between 2000 and 3000% returns this yr


20-30x on Bitcoin in 2 months? Im super curious what makes you think that.

.


no just personal account returns

i trade on defi for a living
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
October 22 2021 00:45 GMT
#1694
Tomorrow is the deadline for Evergrande's payment/default. Gotta prep some popcorn.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-22 00:48:45
October 22 2021 00:48 GMT
#1695
I set stop losses on NIO. Shame cause it was doing so good lately (which is a perfect segue for it to dip suddenly)
Skol
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
October 22 2021 03:01 GMT
#1696
On October 21 2021 22:13 FreakyDroid wrote:
https://www.tradingview.com/x/kylu4VFj/

Similar shit on FTX and Kraken, 52k and 54k wicks. I was trying to see the trade history on Binance US to see if it was some kind of glitch or some orders were actually filled, but of course you can't do that because you can only see the last 50 or so trades. Its a casino indeed, but to call it fair is dishonest at best and incredibly naïve at worst.


just don't be an overleveraged ape

of course ppl are gonna wick you like that when they see you leveraging up

binance us idk though, that site is kind of a scam lol.

I do 99% of my trading onchain so like none of this is ever an issue for me. All the opportunities for anyone <8-9 figs is onchain
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 22 2021 03:32 GMT
#1697
Lol

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
October 22 2021 10:42 GMT
#1698
Wow, guess now everyone can go back to buying stuff for the next 3 months. Wonder if anybody sold most of their stock because of this deadline that was so close.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 22 2021 13:39 GMT
#1699
On October 22 2021 19:42 arbiter_md wrote:
Wow, guess now everyone can go back to buying stuff for the next 3 months. Wonder if anybody sold most of their stock because of this deadline that was so close.

I'm sure some did. It doesn't seem like a good idea though, even if the default did happen. It would have been based on news that's several weeks old, and the forecasted impact seems magnified by the fact that people on some level want it to be doom & gloom when the culprit is China. It seems pretty clear that China is going to do some form of managed bankruptcy here.

Playing "time the market" is really iffy without insider info anyhow. If you're just guessing, better to just ride the ups and downs. You'll lose if you get on the bad side of a Japan-like slump, but there's not a whole lot of winners in that kind of situation anyways.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
October 23 2021 01:00 GMT
#1700
On October 22 2021 12:01 BrTarolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2021 22:13 FreakyDroid wrote:
https://www.tradingview.com/x/kylu4VFj/

Similar shit on FTX and Kraken, 52k and 54k wicks. I was trying to see the trade history on Binance US to see if it was some kind of glitch or some orders were actually filled, but of course you can't do that because you can only see the last 50 or so trades. Its a casino indeed, but to call it fair is dishonest at best and incredibly naïve at worst.


just don't be an overleveraged ape

of course ppl are gonna wick you like that when they see you leveraging up

binance us idk though, that site is kind of a scam lol.

I do 99% of my trading onchain so like none of this is ever an issue for me. All the opportunities for anyone <8-9 figs is onchain


I never use leverage and I dont even trade on that exchange lol, in fact I only use Dexes because I dont trust any centralized exchange. I wasn't talking about myself, I was simply pointing out scammy behavior by bots/algos on crypto exchanges, which is what happened on Binance US.

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/121657/binance-us-blames-bitcoin-flash-crash-to-8200-on-a-bug-in-a-clients-trading-algorithm

Then they pretend its an honest mistake lol. I've been in this space since 2014 to know that this is most likely not the case and that it was done on purpose because it happened on multiple exchanges (not to that extreme effect) on multiple coins.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
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