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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17865 Posts
October 23 2021 14:46 GMT
#1701


Wow, this might be huge if true.

Also, update on Evergrande:

Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-25 03:57:47
October 25 2021 03:57 GMT
#1702
On October 23 2021 10:00 FreakyDroid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2021 12:01 BrTarolg wrote:
On October 21 2021 22:13 FreakyDroid wrote:
https://www.tradingview.com/x/kylu4VFj/

Similar shit on FTX and Kraken, 52k and 54k wicks. I was trying to see the trade history on Binance US to see if it was some kind of glitch or some orders were actually filled, but of course you can't do that because you can only see the last 50 or so trades. Its a casino indeed, but to call it fair is dishonest at best and incredibly naïve at worst.


just don't be an overleveraged ape

of course ppl are gonna wick you like that when they see you leveraging up

binance us idk though, that site is kind of a scam lol.

I do 99% of my trading onchain so like none of this is ever an issue for me. All the opportunities for anyone <8-9 figs is onchain


I never use leverage and I dont even trade on that exchange lol, in fact I only use Dexes because I dont trust any centralized exchange. I wasn't talking about myself, I was simply pointing out scammy behavior by bots/algos on crypto exchanges, which is what happened on Binance US.

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/121657/binance-us-blames-bitcoin-flash-crash-to-8200-on-a-bug-in-a-clients-trading-algorithm

Then they pretend its an honest mistake lol. I've been in this space since 2014 to know that this is most likely not the case and that it was done on purpose because it happened on multiple exchanges (not to that extreme effect) on multiple coins.



No major exchange would do 'scammy shit' like that on purpose. They make absolutely massive profits as it is, whatever they could get from an event like this is just chump change in comparison and likely hurts their bottomline in the long run as customers have so many other exchanges to chose from these days and stability / safety are an important concern for everyone in the space.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
October 25 2021 04:03 GMT
#1703
On October 23 2021 23:46 Manit0u wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9KTUDXzx5E

Wow, this might be huge if true.

Also, update on Evergrande:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llGNLgcfZm0


Man, the original Tether FUD was that they're a scam to get Bitfinex out of insolvency. Then, it was a scam to pump BitcoinCash and take over the real Bitcoin. Now, it's a bomb that will destroy the world-wide financial system? The memes just keep on getting better.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3579 Posts
October 25 2021 18:18 GMT
#1704
You can always just short tether/usd if you want to hedge lol

it's like the most overblown thing ever honestly

there's infinite stablecoins to mess with now, from partially backed to totally cryptobacked to basket backed (though no successful undercollateralized yet...)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-25 18:25:25
October 25 2021 18:23 GMT
#1705
$TSLA breaks through the $1,000 stock price.



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
October 25 2021 19:14 GMT
#1706
I have a couple shares of TSLA @520. I’m holding all the way.
Skol
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
October 26 2021 07:22 GMT
#1707
Bought Tesla at 170 pre split. Won't make a better call again ever i guess.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 27 2021 12:57 GMT
#1708
Hertz Global Holdings Inc., fresh off a blockbuster order for 100,000 Teslas, reached an exclusive agreement to supply Uber drivers with electric vehicles and signed up Carvana Co. to dispose of rental cars it no longer wants.

Taken together, the deals represent a trifecta of aggressive and innovative initiatives with the potential to upend the car-rental business and hasten the transition to greener fuel sources. The car order on Monday, the largest-ever for EVs at $4.2 billion, was such as watershed moment that it propelled Tesla Inc.’s valuation past $1 trillion.

Just as surprising: The company behind it all is barely out of bankruptcy. Only 17 months ago, with the Covid-19 pandemic raging, Estero, Florida-based Hertz was so troubled and its future so uncertain that it was forced to seek protection from creditors. Now, under the control of hedge fund and private-equity owners, Hertz is leaning on mobile technology and digitization to transform a stodgy industry known for uninspiring cars and poor customer experiences.

“Our approach is very strategic and very deliberate in terms of how we want to disrupt ourselves and, hopefully, disrupt the industry,” Mark Fields, who’s serving as interim chief executive officer at Hertz, said in an interview. “Instead of asking why, we’re asking why not.”

Under the agreement with Uber Technologies Inc., drivers for the ride-hailing giant who previously had to provide and maintain their own EVs will be able to rent one of 50,000 Teslas from Hertz instead. The program, which starts Nov. 1, is an alternative to buying or leasing, and many drivers may find it more appealing.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3579 Posts
October 27 2021 20:32 GMT
#1709
looks like it's dog coin szn again lmao

100 usd of shib bought a year ago worth like 80 million now
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-27 21:59:14
October 27 2021 21:56 GMT
#1710
Dead Company walking.



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
October 28 2021 13:39 GMT
#1711
Closed 40% of TSLA, 2 more asks 40% at 1130 and 20% at 1490, S/L @ 1000. Bought at 198$. Couldnt care less if it goes higher, its a crazy evaluation of a company that barely makes money as it is. Not that it matters in today's financial world we live in, P/E whats that? :D
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 29 2021 15:37 GMT
#1712
No matter how hard they try it seems Analysts are getting worse in pretending a catastrophe can be averted.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3579 Posts
October 31 2021 13:25 GMT
#1713
most crypto natives think that burry had awful risk management+timing and now hes shorted the bottom of the greatest bull market in the history of humanity lol
cha0
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada518 Posts
October 31 2021 16:32 GMT
#1714
afaik Burry didn't actually take any short positions on crypto but was just ranting/calling it a bubble and discussing how one would go about shorting it.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3579 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-01 01:20:46
November 01 2021 00:42 GMT
#1715
i mean the starter saying that crypto is overleveraged is just flat out untrue because 99% of onchain leverage is overcollateralised, and offchain we regularly see flushes constantly on all the exchanges

The idea that "we dont know how much leverage there is because crypto is scary/complicated" is just wrong, it's a far more transparent market than tradfi which is regularly 10-100x leveraged, crypto is a very UNDER leveraged market

you can see futures OI and liquidations publically for all exchanges and all liquidations on chain are obviously also public. Options side of crypto is tiny volume compared to futures so mostly irrelevant

edit: this is response to the vid
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 01 2021 02:53 GMT
#1716
Chinese Real Estate Companies, which are loaded with debt, face over $2 billion bond payments this month. Four companies defaulted in October alone.

Link
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
SamyilLoset
Profile Joined November 2021
1 Post
November 01 2021 07:41 GMT
#1717
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 01 2021 20:42 GMT
#1718
Think Cramer might not be as smart as some people claim. Earlier he had told viewers to sell Tesla when it was at $600ish.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 01 2021 20:55 GMT
#1719
Uh... he's clearly an entertainer rather than meaningful stock guru. We got this historical gem for example:
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
SirKibbleX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States479 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-01 21:08:49
November 01 2021 21:03 GMT
#1720
The market is like poker. You can make the right call and lose money. You can do stupid shit and make money. Even if you're right about something, you can still lose out because the name of the game is being right at the right time. I'm not sure anyone ever thought Cramer was exactly a genius, but it's not so controversial to say that it's likely that Tesla is vastly overpriced. Someone else will partner with Google or Amazon or Apple or someone else or whatever and deliver a working EV with an autopilot-equivalent sooner or later.

It's highly unlikely that developing a Level 2 self-driving EVs will be so difficult as to justify a 10-20x higher valuation relatively to other top automakers - ones who are currently making more money than Tesla, and where Tesla seemingly does not have that strong of a moat. Once the cars become effectively fungible, I can't imagine TSLA will be able to justify such a higher valuation than those other companies.
Praemonitus, Praemunitus.
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