• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:03
CEST 18:03
KST 01:03
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0
StarCraft 2
General
Updates to The Core/Core Lite for v5.0.16? TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 2026 Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Where is EffOrt? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Total War: Warhammer 40K Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9355 users

Trading/Investing Thread - Page 86

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 84 85 86 87 88 152 Next
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17768 Posts
October 23 2021 14:46 GMT
#1701


Wow, this might be huge if true.

Also, update on Evergrande:

Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-25 03:57:47
October 25 2021 03:57 GMT
#1702
On October 23 2021 10:00 FreakyDroid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2021 12:01 BrTarolg wrote:
On October 21 2021 22:13 FreakyDroid wrote:
https://www.tradingview.com/x/kylu4VFj/

Similar shit on FTX and Kraken, 52k and 54k wicks. I was trying to see the trade history on Binance US to see if it was some kind of glitch or some orders were actually filled, but of course you can't do that because you can only see the last 50 or so trades. Its a casino indeed, but to call it fair is dishonest at best and incredibly naïve at worst.


just don't be an overleveraged ape

of course ppl are gonna wick you like that when they see you leveraging up

binance us idk though, that site is kind of a scam lol.

I do 99% of my trading onchain so like none of this is ever an issue for me. All the opportunities for anyone <8-9 figs is onchain


I never use leverage and I dont even trade on that exchange lol, in fact I only use Dexes because I dont trust any centralized exchange. I wasn't talking about myself, I was simply pointing out scammy behavior by bots/algos on crypto exchanges, which is what happened on Binance US.

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/121657/binance-us-blames-bitcoin-flash-crash-to-8200-on-a-bug-in-a-clients-trading-algorithm

Then they pretend its an honest mistake lol. I've been in this space since 2014 to know that this is most likely not the case and that it was done on purpose because it happened on multiple exchanges (not to that extreme effect) on multiple coins.



No major exchange would do 'scammy shit' like that on purpose. They make absolutely massive profits as it is, whatever they could get from an event like this is just chump change in comparison and likely hurts their bottomline in the long run as customers have so many other exchanges to chose from these days and stability / safety are an important concern for everyone in the space.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
October 25 2021 04:03 GMT
#1703
On October 23 2021 23:46 Manit0u wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9KTUDXzx5E

Wow, this might be huge if true.

Also, update on Evergrande:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llGNLgcfZm0


Man, the original Tether FUD was that they're a scam to get Bitfinex out of insolvency. Then, it was a scam to pump BitcoinCash and take over the real Bitcoin. Now, it's a bomb that will destroy the world-wide financial system? The memes just keep on getting better.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
October 25 2021 18:18 GMT
#1704
You can always just short tether/usd if you want to hedge lol

it's like the most overblown thing ever honestly

there's infinite stablecoins to mess with now, from partially backed to totally cryptobacked to basket backed (though no successful undercollateralized yet...)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-25 18:25:25
October 25 2021 18:23 GMT
#1705
$TSLA breaks through the $1,000 stock price.



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
October 25 2021 19:14 GMT
#1706
I have a couple shares of TSLA @520. I’m holding all the way.
Skol
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
October 26 2021 07:22 GMT
#1707
Bought Tesla at 170 pre split. Won't make a better call again ever i guess.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 27 2021 12:57 GMT
#1708
Hertz Global Holdings Inc., fresh off a blockbuster order for 100,000 Teslas, reached an exclusive agreement to supply Uber drivers with electric vehicles and signed up Carvana Co. to dispose of rental cars it no longer wants.

Taken together, the deals represent a trifecta of aggressive and innovative initiatives with the potential to upend the car-rental business and hasten the transition to greener fuel sources. The car order on Monday, the largest-ever for EVs at $4.2 billion, was such as watershed moment that it propelled Tesla Inc.’s valuation past $1 trillion.

Just as surprising: The company behind it all is barely out of bankruptcy. Only 17 months ago, with the Covid-19 pandemic raging, Estero, Florida-based Hertz was so troubled and its future so uncertain that it was forced to seek protection from creditors. Now, under the control of hedge fund and private-equity owners, Hertz is leaning on mobile technology and digitization to transform a stodgy industry known for uninspiring cars and poor customer experiences.

“Our approach is very strategic and very deliberate in terms of how we want to disrupt ourselves and, hopefully, disrupt the industry,” Mark Fields, who’s serving as interim chief executive officer at Hertz, said in an interview. “Instead of asking why, we’re asking why not.”

Under the agreement with Uber Technologies Inc., drivers for the ride-hailing giant who previously had to provide and maintain their own EVs will be able to rent one of 50,000 Teslas from Hertz instead. The program, which starts Nov. 1, is an alternative to buying or leasing, and many drivers may find it more appealing.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
October 27 2021 20:32 GMT
#1709
looks like it's dog coin szn again lmao

100 usd of shib bought a year ago worth like 80 million now
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-27 21:59:14
October 27 2021 21:56 GMT
#1710
Dead Company walking.



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
October 28 2021 13:39 GMT
#1711
Closed 40% of TSLA, 2 more asks 40% at 1130 and 20% at 1490, S/L @ 1000. Bought at 198$. Couldnt care less if it goes higher, its a crazy evaluation of a company that barely makes money as it is. Not that it matters in today's financial world we live in, P/E whats that? :D
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 29 2021 15:37 GMT
#1712
No matter how hard they try it seems Analysts are getting worse in pretending a catastrophe can be averted.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
October 31 2021 13:25 GMT
#1713
most crypto natives think that burry had awful risk management+timing and now hes shorted the bottom of the greatest bull market in the history of humanity lol
cha0
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada514 Posts
October 31 2021 16:32 GMT
#1714
afaik Burry didn't actually take any short positions on crypto but was just ranting/calling it a bubble and discussing how one would go about shorting it.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-01 01:20:46
November 01 2021 00:42 GMT
#1715
i mean the starter saying that crypto is overleveraged is just flat out untrue because 99% of onchain leverage is overcollateralised, and offchain we regularly see flushes constantly on all the exchanges

The idea that "we dont know how much leverage there is because crypto is scary/complicated" is just wrong, it's a far more transparent market than tradfi which is regularly 10-100x leveraged, crypto is a very UNDER leveraged market

you can see futures OI and liquidations publically for all exchanges and all liquidations on chain are obviously also public. Options side of crypto is tiny volume compared to futures so mostly irrelevant

edit: this is response to the vid
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 01 2021 02:53 GMT
#1716
Chinese Real Estate Companies, which are loaded with debt, face over $2 billion bond payments this month. Four companies defaulted in October alone.

Link
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
SamyilLoset
Profile Joined November 2021
1 Post
November 01 2021 07:41 GMT
#1717
--- Nuked ---
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 01 2021 20:42 GMT
#1718
Think Cramer might not be as smart as some people claim. Earlier he had told viewers to sell Tesla when it was at $600ish.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 01 2021 20:55 GMT
#1719
Uh... he's clearly an entertainer rather than meaningful stock guru. We got this historical gem for example:
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
SirKibbleX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States479 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-01 21:08:49
November 01 2021 21:03 GMT
#1720
The market is like poker. You can make the right call and lose money. You can do stupid shit and make money. Even if you're right about something, you can still lose out because the name of the game is being right at the right time. I'm not sure anyone ever thought Cramer was exactly a genius, but it's not so controversial to say that it's likely that Tesla is vastly overpriced. Someone else will partner with Google or Amazon or Apple or someone else or whatever and deliver a working EV with an autopilot-equivalent sooner or later.

It's highly unlikely that developing a Level 2 self-driving EVs will be so difficult as to justify a 10-20x higher valuation relatively to other top automakers - ones who are currently making more money than Tesla, and where Tesla seemingly does not have that strong of a moat. Once the cars become effectively fungible, I can't imagine TSLA will be able to justify such a higher valuation than those other companies.
Praemonitus, Praemunitus.
Prev 1 84 85 86 87 88 152 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Spring Champion…
11:00
Group Stage 2
WardiTV1356
TaKeTV 491
Ryung 235
IndyStarCraft 168
Rex154
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 235
IndyStarCraft 168
Rex 154
ProTech87
SHIN 26
RushiSC 13
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4572
Sea 2706
Shuttle 2174
EffOrt 1461
Soulkey 408
Light 405
firebathero 373
Soma 348
Rush 293
Snow 264
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 168
Free 159
hero 139
Mong 125
Sharp 88
scan(afreeca) 73
Backho 70
Sea.KH 57
Pusan 54
sorry 48
Hyun 46
Sacsri 27
Shine 23
Terrorterran 21
Bale 21
Rock 20
IntoTheRainbow 18
soO 16
GoRush 12
Dota 2
qojqva4476
Dendi2138
420jenkins477
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King100
Other Games
gofns16382
tarik_tv11178
B2W.Neo938
hiko642
FrodaN520
Liquid`VortiX175
Hui .174
XaKoH 136
ArmadaUGS115
Trikslyr74
fpsfer 1
BRAT_OK 0
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream846
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 21
• mYiSmile121
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix9
• HerbMon 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota262
League of Legends
• TFBlade672
Other Games
• Shiphtur107
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
7h 57m
Replay Cast
16h 57m
The PondCast
1d 17h
OSC
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
GSL
3 days
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
4 days
Patches Events
5 days
[ Show More ]
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
5 days
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-15
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.