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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-08 06:25:30
October 08 2021 06:17 GMT
#1661
Australia really screwed China over with tariffs on their coal when over 50% of China's coal demand was being supplied by Australia (supposedly a response to trying to hide the covid). There are like entire provinces with power outages in China and even in bigger cities there are blackouts on the highways etc.

Can’t recall Australia screwing China over with coal tarriffs?
China cut Aus coal imports to punish Australia over Taiwan support and the Covid origin investigation which you alluded to.

Europes situation is due to the idiotic decision to close down reliable baseload coal and nuclear plants and replace them with unreliable wind and solar.Plus more Gas power plants when their main gas supplier is Russia, who the media and governments have been increasingly demonising the past ten years.What a disaster.

With gas supply reduced and thus gas plant fertiliser byproduct also reduced sharply expect higher food prices in future on top of already highly stretched supply lines.Food inflation will continue to rise and it’s already quite noticeable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17254 Posts
October 08 2021 12:26 GMT
#1662
Yeah, I might've misinterpreted the China/Aus coal situation. The point being China's energy is in big trouble because of it now.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Kokujin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States456 Posts
October 08 2021 18:28 GMT
#1663
Interesting to note the CCP had some foresight about this energy situation because they did ban bitcoin mining a few weeks ago.

Also, I went all in on crypto this month, now I just need to hide at an island for a few years until WW3 is finished.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-08 19:08:48
October 08 2021 19:08 GMT
#1664
On October 09 2021 03:28 Kokujin wrote:
Interesting to note the CCP had some foresight about this energy situation because they did ban bitcoin mining a few weeks ago.

Also, I went all in on crypto this month, now I just need to hide at an island for a few years until WW3 is finished.


Countries restricting bitcoin are doing it because it threatens their monopoly on money supply, "enviromental concerns" is just the most sellable excuse to the public. China pretending to care about the enviroment at any level is beyound ridiculous.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
October 09 2021 20:40 GMT
#1665
On October 09 2021 03:28 Kokujin wrote:
Interesting to note the CCP had some foresight about this energy situation because they did ban bitcoin mining a few weeks ago.

Also, I went all in on crypto this month, now I just need to hide at an island for a few years until WW3 is finished.


good luck

If you've invested for the right reasons, should give you the convictions for an easy 10-100x in the next 5-10 yrs
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44119 Posts
October 10 2021 03:12 GMT
#1666
On October 09 2021 03:28 Kokujin wrote:
Interesting to note the CCP had some foresight about this energy situation because they did ban bitcoin mining a few weeks ago.

Also, I went all in on crypto this month, now I just need to hide at an island for a few years until WW3 is finished.

I don't think China really cares about environmental issues. Pretty sure it is just that it threatens their control in the financial aspect.

I mean not unexpected from a communist government it would defeat the point of their government if they allowed such thing
this is a quote
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
October 10 2021 03:26 GMT
#1667
Don’t have to be green to cut down on an obvious low-value energy sink in the face of an impending energy crisis. They could save their coal for factories or something.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17254 Posts
October 11 2021 15:09 GMT
#1668
Apparently there are new reports coming in that paint a rather bleak picture. China's property market is the biggest asset class in the world valued at $62 trillion and apparently the losses are even greater than anyone predicted (with some developers being down 45% y/y).

Some say that if this collapses it'll be worse than 2008 but I don't know enough about the market. Could someone more versed elaborate on potential fallout after this housing bubble collapses?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6209 Posts
October 11 2021 16:12 GMT
#1669
It's impossible to say. The banking and shadow banking sectors are incredibly opaque. They're almost certainly hiding a large amount of non performing loans but nobody really knows how much and how troublesome it really is. In addition a lot depends on the CCP and we know even less about what goes on in the party.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13924 Posts
October 11 2021 17:03 GMT
#1670
Not to mention a lot of that debt is owned by or will be owned by city/regional governments that has no interest or responsibility to do anything about it. They can just add all the assets and debt to the state and service it with a currency that has exploded in quantity in the past few years with their own currency that no one outside of the country trusts anyway.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17254 Posts
October 11 2021 19:17 GMT
#1671
It will definitely be rough for the Chinese though since over 60% of household wealth in China is tied in those property developments.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 14 2021 21:23 GMT
#1672
So if anyone is still holding on to SPCE think it might be time to bail. Or at the very least trim some holdings.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
October 14 2021 21:37 GMT
#1673
13% dip in AH for SPCE. I have a 6k position @30 with them. Fml
Skol
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17254 Posts
October 14 2021 22:53 GMT
#1674
Why would anyone invest in Virgin though? Any project related to Hyperloop scam is doomed to fail.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
October 14 2021 23:01 GMT
#1675
Virgin Galactic (the space tourism company) was pretty early to the “public new space” company game at a time when lots of money was looking for a way to invest in space. Makes for a good meme stock, even if every indication is that the company itself is a two-bit operation.

A WSB favorite from back in the day I think.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-14 23:16:53
October 14 2021 23:16 GMT
#1676
Virginia Orbit is still active yet It hasn't merged with the SPAC yet.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
October 15 2021 17:12 GMT
#1677
I meannn I did say I would average down when SPCE drops below 20 so…. We’ll see how monday turns out .
Skol
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 17 2021 01:07 GMT
#1678
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13924 Posts
October 17 2021 21:58 GMT
#1679
If nothing else it should be an interesting week.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-17 22:37:22
October 17 2021 22:35 GMT
#1680
Now it is being said it will happen/be announced on Saturday the 23rd.



Can't find anything on Bloomberg though.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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