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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 13 2022 02:17 GMT
#2301
It begins. The only surprise will be who in their right mind is buying the debt.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-13 12:09:54
October 13 2022 12:05 GMT
#2302
The vix just wont come down. Maybe one of these days,either a spike up or slowly back down.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
October 13 2022 14:50 GMT
#2303
hilarious CPI price action once again

ॐ
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 13 2022 17:38 GMT
#2304
Strange..., up over 700 points....
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 13 2022 17:45 GMT
#2305
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
October 13 2022 19:38 GMT
#2306
On October 14 2022 02:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Strange..., up over 700 points....


just reacting to DXY dumping

every asset right now is a proxy for EURUSD lol


On October 14 2022 02:45 JimmiC wrote:
It depends who you read and their thoughts on whether we are at the bottom or not. But the we are at the bottom (or near) people suggest that the awful stuff is already priced in because people are so pessimistic.


the Fed will keep increasing rates until something breaks, then will have to resume money printing, that's when you buy

until then any major bounce is for shorting
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14144 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-13 22:35:35
October 13 2022 22:22 GMT
#2307
The thing that will break first is inflation, the holy econ texts and Volcker's ghost demands no less. OPEC getting ideas above its station and high inflation will cause nations to default on their debt as they did 40 years ago. Its only a matter of which nations and how the world will pick up the pieces afterwords.

At least the Euros have a central bank this time around.

If you think weird bounces are for shorting now just wait until the first medium nation collapses and all their rich people throw what they can into American stocks.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria855 Posts
October 15 2022 12:44 GMT
#2308
On October 14 2022 07:22 Sermokala wrote:
The thing that will break first is inflation, the holy econ texts and Volcker's ghost demands no less. OPEC getting ideas above its station and high inflation will cause nations to default on their debt as they did 40 years ago. Its only a matter of which nations and how the world will pick up the pieces afterwords.

At least the Euros have a central bank this time around.

If you think weird bounces are for shorting now just wait until the first medium nation collapses and all their rich people throw what they can into American stocks.


The thing is no one knows when inflation will end. Besides, it's a rather odd one because it's after COVID and energy crisis, so multiple factors.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14144 Posts
October 16 2022 04:09 GMT
#2309
On October 15 2022 21:44 SC-Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2022 07:22 Sermokala wrote:
The thing that will break first is inflation, the holy econ texts and Volcker's ghost demands no less. OPEC getting ideas above its station and high inflation will cause nations to default on their debt as they did 40 years ago. Its only a matter of which nations and how the world will pick up the pieces afterwords.

At least the Euros have a central bank this time around.

If you think weird bounces are for shorting now just wait until the first medium nation collapses and all their rich people throw what they can into American stocks.


The thing is no one knows when inflation will end. Besides, it's a rather odd one because it's after COVID and energy crisis, so multiple factors.

Inflation was pretty bad for decades until Volcker slayed the dragon. A lot of nations either collapsed or came really close to collapse while he fought it. People are really underestimating the fed if they think that they'll stop even after the pound and the yen go down.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4421 Posts
October 16 2022 11:17 GMT
#2310
On October 16 2022 13:09 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2022 21:44 SC-Shield wrote:
On October 14 2022 07:22 Sermokala wrote:
The thing that will break first is inflation, the holy econ texts and Volcker's ghost demands no less. OPEC getting ideas above its station and high inflation will cause nations to default on their debt as they did 40 years ago. Its only a matter of which nations and how the world will pick up the pieces afterwords.

At least the Euros have a central bank this time around.

If you think weird bounces are for shorting now just wait until the first medium nation collapses and all their rich people throw what they can into American stocks.


The thing is no one knows when inflation will end. Besides, it's a rather odd one because it's after COVID and energy crisis, so multiple factors.

Inflation was pretty bad for decades until Volcker slayed the dragon. A lot of nations either collapsed or came really close to collapse while he fought it. People are really underestimating the fed if they think that they'll stop even after the pound and the yen go down.

The US national debt wasn’t 31 Trillion dollars when Volcker did that.They’re predicting interest on the debt will overtake spending on Medicaid this fiscal year due to interest rate rises and yearly budget deficits in excess of one trillion dollars.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/10/13/debt-interest-rates/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14144 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-16 21:11:09
October 16 2022 17:55 GMT
#2311
On October 16 2022 20:17 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2022 13:09 Sermokala wrote:
On October 15 2022 21:44 SC-Shield wrote:
On October 14 2022 07:22 Sermokala wrote:
The thing that will break first is inflation, the holy econ texts and Volcker's ghost demands no less. OPEC getting ideas above its station and high inflation will cause nations to default on their debt as they did 40 years ago. Its only a matter of which nations and how the world will pick up the pieces afterwords.

At least the Euros have a central bank this time around.

If you think weird bounces are for shorting now just wait until the first medium nation collapses and all their rich people throw what they can into American stocks.


The thing is no one knows when inflation will end. Besides, it's a rather odd one because it's after COVID and energy crisis, so multiple factors.

Inflation was pretty bad for decades until Volcker slayed the dragon. A lot of nations either collapsed or came really close to collapse while he fought it. People are really underestimating the fed if they think that they'll stop even after the pound and the yen go down.

The US national debt wasn’t 31 Trillion dollars when Volcker did that.They’re predicting interest on the debt will overtake spending on Medicaid this fiscal year due to interest rate rises and yearly budget deficits in excess of one trillion dollars.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/10/13/debt-interest-rates/


This goes into something else that people miss a lot when talking about currencies collapsing and the monster that is the petrodollar. The death-spiral for countries comes when they have to keep buying dollars to import goods but the value of the currency they're buying dollars with keeps going down because they need to print more of their own currency to buy the dollar. 80% of the worlds debt is denominated in either Euros or Dollars. 60% of that is dollars.


Yes hard times are ahead but the only way forward is through breaking inflation and bringing stability to global trade. There is no other option on the table. Continuing to fight inflation will be rough for even America and will bring some nations to their knees. Not fighting inflation or printing again will be the end of modern industrialism.

When I see non-Americans predict that the fed will pivot, why? What do you think would be better if the fed pivoted or what reasoning they would use to pivot now? The Fed has to chose between spiraling inflation and a global recession. It will choose the global recession every time and sleep well at night doing what they should be doing.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 18 2022 22:20 GMT
#2312
Welp we all know what that means...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
October 22 2022 14:11 GMT
#2313
For what it's worth, I'm in full agreement. Going long the USDollar has been the only consistent inflation-hedge and I expect that to continue.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 26 2022 21:41 GMT
#2314
RIP to any META holders as the share price is collapsing after hours. Down nearly 17% so far.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 27 2022 12:21 GMT
#2315
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-27 13:29:35
October 27 2022 13:22 GMT
#2316
Meta earnings were so bad that this morning Jim "always coked up" Cramer had to be consoled live on air lol

But JPow is still out there... he could kill this rally in less than a minute later today.

edit: $TWTR will be taken off the stock tomorrow.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 27 2022 14:42 GMT
#2317
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-27 17:45:38
October 27 2022 17:43 GMT
#2318
Credit Suisse is tanking again as they seek outside capital to help keep them afloat.



Also CNBC won't upload Cramer having to be consoled live on air while talking about META rofl cowards.

Edit: Found it on twitter full on inebriated.


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria855 Posts
October 27 2022 19:49 GMT
#2319
Apple's index is -3.15% at the moment, minutes before earnings report. Probably fear due to Microsoft, Google and Meta earnings. Also, recession...
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 27 2022 20:32 GMT
#2320
On October 28 2022 04:49 SC-Shield wrote:
Apple's index is -3.15% at the moment, minutes before earnings report. Probably fear due to Microsoft, Google and Meta earnings. Also, recession...


Nothing but bloodshed.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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