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Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2928 Posts
May 20 2007 05:38 GMT
#1
Hi!

Most likely I will have to share my internet soon and I'll be forced to get a router. I know how routers can screw up your SC pleasures on b.net (even when all ports are forwarded correctly) and I was wondering if anyone could recommend me a good one :D

What I'm looking for:
- A cable/wired router.
- 4-ports (dont think less are available? only sharing with 2 comps)
- think of my budget ^^; meaning: doesnt have to be the cheapest thing you can find, but if possible not too much)
- it has to work perfectly with b.net!


ty~
-
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
May 20 2007 05:40 GMT
#2
id recommend getting another ip
its me
WestOpIs-
Profile Joined January 2007
24 Posts
May 20 2007 05:41 GMT
#3
D-Link DI-604
ZZangZZerg
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2928 Posts
May 20 2007 06:03 GMT
#4
D-Link DL-604 (4x 100Mbps) € 39,-
Seems nice ^^;
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
May 20 2007 06:12 GMT
#5
I have the D-link DI-624

Its not that great and can get buggy
so I suggest get a better one, maybe the 604 like mentioned above
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2928 Posts
May 20 2007 06:22 GMT
#6
that one is wireless tho
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
May 20 2007 06:25 GMT
#7
being wireless still give it 4 LAN port.....
pirate cod
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
810 Posts
May 20 2007 07:46 GMT
#8
Anyone know how to get by playing in same game with person on your router with other people on b.net?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
May 20 2007 08:26 GMT
#9
dlink or linksys
i use linksys and its fine. wrt54 or something i think
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
maleorderbride
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 13:04:02
May 20 2007 13:03 GMT
#10
I have a dlink 624, 604, and 524. All of them worked fine for multiple people on starcraft at the same time, however. You just need to open the right ports. 6112-6119, 4000.

Here is a 524 for $40USD-$15 Rebate. I have no idea if US retailers ship out of the country though. Free shipping for US anyway...It is only 54MBs instead of 108MBs, but unless you have like T1 or fiberoptics that really does not matter.

https://shop2.outpost.com/product/3938668

Always check slickdeals.net before buying anything. Usually you can find it there for cheaper. Just search over on the right in the forums for "router" or whatever you are looking for.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
[jOyO]
Profile Joined July 2006
United States920 Posts
May 20 2007 13:36 GMT
#11
how do you open more ports?
You must notta heard me PARTNA!
maleorderbride
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2916 Posts
May 20 2007 13:38 GMT
#12
well first you access the router, then it is usually called "port forwarding" or it is part of the firewall options. Then add those ports for UDP and TCP starcraft.exe (usually the program does not matter though, it just opens those ports for anything)
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
siro)
Profile Joined January 2006
Australia848 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 14:45:28
May 20 2007 14:23 GMT
#13
On May 20 2007 22:38 maleorderbride wrote:
well first you access the router, then it is usually called "port forwarding" or it is part of the firewall options. Then add those ports for UDP and TCP starcraft.exe (usually the program does not matter though, it just opens those ports for anything)



I do all that and it works, but I still can't create.. anyway around that?
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 14:52:42
May 20 2007 14:51 GMT
#14
http://portforward.com/english/applications/port_forwarding/Blizzard_Battlenet/Blizzard_Battlenetindex.htm

Click the name of your router and then follow the instructions.
Starcraft is actually only port 6112 but you might as well open all Battle.net ports while you're at it.

You have to make sure the IP matches the one your computer has - to check this if you have Windows go to start - run - type in cmd and click ok - type in ipconfig and press enter

Make sure that IP address (not the default gateway) matches with the one you write in when port forwarding. Refer to that guide for other questions.
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1306 Posts
May 20 2007 15:56 GMT
#15
Set yourself DMZ, you can use the Internet as you could before without using a Router, but works only for one PC (you i presume).
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
HiddenTalent
Profile Joined July 2005
United States246 Posts
May 20 2007 23:05 GMT
#16
Well, if you get a netgear, one of the newer routers, there is a setting on that router to alow multiple players to play under the same IP address (players playing under the same roof). So I would recommend a netgear router. But D-links are also good.
gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2791 Posts
May 20 2007 23:25 GMT
#17
Does router screw up SC?
MannerKiss
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2398 Posts
May 21 2007 00:12 GMT
#18
I need to get around to doing this, i still cant play 2 at the same time heh.
I want an igloo.
draeger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States3256 Posts
May 21 2007 01:18 GMT
#19
On May 21 2007 00:56 Chosi wrote:
Set yourself DMZ, you can use the Internet as you could before without using a Router, but works only for one PC (you i presume).


BAD idea. Instead, get a smidgen of computer knowledge and forward only the ports you need to your local IP. Making yourself DMZ is just asking to be the target of random brute force attacks. The router's internal firewall diverts most of that if you allow it to.
t.t
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
May 21 2007 01:37 GMT
#20
DONT GET A ROUTER; YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HOST T_T_T_T
^-^
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
May 21 2007 01:59 GMT
#21
i have a router and i do never had any trouble playing at bnet or any other kind of game/software/etc.
you just need to configure port forwarding and you wont have any trouble.

i can host and join any game...
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-13 16:27:53
May 21 2007 03:31 GMT
#22
EVERYONE has terrible information in this thread.

First of all D-Link is the shittiest company known to man. Get Lynksys.

Ok here is proper directions to open the ports needed for Battle.net.

1- Doubleclick your Loca Area Network Connection Status (It should tell you your connection speed, time logged on, etc.)

2- Click the Support tab then copy down the DEFAULT GATEWAY. It should be something like 192.168.1.1

3- Type that address into INTERNET EXPLORER not firefox.

4- It should bring up your router/internet settings. (If it brings up a name/password screen put that in. Sometimes you can leave it blank and it works, if not you're shit out of luck.)

5- Open/forward ports 6112-6119 TCP/UDP. Those are the ports required for battle.net/starcraft.
Save it or whatever and exit you might need to restart your computer, I don't know.

6- http://portforward.com/cports.htm This is a list of other programs/games ports that you can open for router shiestiness. Good Luck


PS- Avoid wireless router if possible. Cords are always better.

PPS- A lot of the time when people can't join your game its not just you. Its because both of you have routers. If you both have them with ports opened it should allow you to join each others games. So make all your friends fix their shit. I've noticed that people without routers can join my games but people with routers can't or have trouble.

edit - Port 4000? no its 6112-6119 for sc/wc on b.net. I think 4000 is for diablo2 and some other stupid shit like C&C.


7- Turn off ALL firewall/antivirus programs. Routers come with built in firewalls which is why there is so many problems associated with them. If you are that paranoid about computer attacks just scan every morning or while you sleep. Or just scan files as you download them.

There are 2 things that I hate dealing with on computers. They are Printers & Routers. They fucking suck, goodluck.

..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
siro)
Profile Joined January 2006
Australia848 Posts
May 21 2007 15:38 GMT
#23
What IP do I forward to?

local IP? default gateway? Random assigned IP?
HiddenTalent
Profile Joined July 2005
United States246 Posts
May 21 2007 15:50 GMT
#24
local IP, the ip address that is assigned to your specific computer.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
May 21 2007 15:52 GMT
#25
On May 21 2007 10:37 Equinox_kr wrote:
DONT GET A ROUTER; YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HOST T_T_T_T


I have a routher and I can host... you just have to open all the ports correctly. Just follow the directions on this site, as someone already mentioned:

www.portforward.com
siro)
Profile Joined January 2006
Australia848 Posts
May 21 2007 15:52 GMT
#26
On May 22 2007 00:50 HiddenTalent wrote:
local IP, the ip address that is assigned to your specific computer.


thanks, that's what I had it set to.

still no luck =(
HiddenTalent
Profile Joined July 2005
United States246 Posts
May 21 2007 15:54 GMT
#27
CharlieMurphy, everyone has their own preferences on which router they prefer. Saying that we give terrible advice just because we don't agree with what router you think is best is a bad statement.
HiddenTalent
Profile Joined July 2005
United States246 Posts
May 21 2007 15:56 GMT
#28
Did you forward ports 6112-6119 allowing UDP and TCP?
siro)
Profile Joined January 2006
Australia848 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-21 16:25:13
May 21 2007 15:59 GMT
#29
On May 22 2007 00:56 HiddenTalent wrote:
Did you forward ports 6112-6119 allowing UDP and TCP?


yep!

Does running through a switch (for home networking) have any bearing on this? [I have tried with and without anyways]

Likewise do static/dynamic ip's matter?
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1306 Posts
May 21 2007 16:03 GMT
#30
On May 21 2007 10:18 draeger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2007 00:56 Chosi wrote:
Set yourself DMZ, you can use the Internet as you could before without using a Router, but works only for one PC (you i presume).


BAD idea. Instead, get a smidgen of computer knowledge and forward only the ports you need to your local IP. Making yourself DMZ is just asking to be the target of random brute force attacks. The router's internal firewall diverts most of that if you allow it to.


I use direct connection DSL since there is DSL and never got any "Attacks".. Dunno where this Paranoia comes from, guess from the Firewall/AV companies. It's not like any retard that can google for "hackz" can kill your computer anymore. And those ppl that are actually able and interessted in hacking a computer will, for sure, search for some more interessting targets, since they to it to gather information or this strange kind of fame. They won't get any of it by hacking into Joe Average's computer and deleting his replays.

Portforwarding does help, but most routers cannot even save as many forward rules as you would need to get everything working as you want, icq filetransfer, bittorrent, irc dcc, bnet, other games .. Just set yourself as DMZ and *never* get *any* of those router problems at all. Check your antivirus software to be up to date and you are fine.

Firewalls and Routers blocking off "attacks" reminds me of the good old days of the "Norton Crash Guard" that should prevent your computer from freezing. It told me about 3-4 times a day it just prevented a crash and about 1-2 times a day it still crashed. If you uninstalled it you did not have any problems at all.

So unless you have interessting or valuable (for others too!) things on your computer or maybe data from your company etc, don't overprotect yourself...
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
lokiM(gG)
Profile Joined April 2007
United States111 Posts
May 21 2007 16:13 GMT
#31
If you buy a shitty router thinking you got a good one, you can always portforward or trigger at portforward.com
Hio
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
May 21 2007 16:30 GMT
#32
everyone who cant use starcraft with router has their router miss-configured

Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
HiddenTalent
Profile Joined July 2005
United States246 Posts
May 21 2007 17:15 GMT
#33
On May 22 2007 01:30 ilbh wrote:
everyone who cant use starcraft with router has their router miss-configured

Agree
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
May 21 2007 18:49 GMT
#34
DMZ > all.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
siro)
Profile Joined January 2006
Australia848 Posts
May 22 2007 08:10 GMT
#35
On May 22 2007 02:15 HiddenTalent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2007 01:30 ilbh wrote:
everyone who cant use starcraft with router has their router miss-configured

Agree


even when set to enable DMZ I can't host/play in my friends game.
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
May 22 2007 08:25 GMT
#36
siro, you're not alone, and it does sound like you've set up the port forwarding correctly. i've definitely set up my port forwarding, firewall, etc. (i host some other things that require the ports to be set up), but it mostly doesn't work still.

i can generally join games, but if there's more than 1 other person (the host) in there it'll lag badly. also i can host... sometimes. i think i can only host if i haven't joined another game recently, but i'm not sure. and if more than one person joins my games, then it'll lag. i'm guessing my Belkin router is trying to be smart and limits my UDP packets over the same port to just communicate with one other IP address.

so yeah, you're probably mostly out of luck unless you want to replace the router. if so, first try connecting your computer directly to the cable modem for a few minutes to bypass the router and see if it works.
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