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Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting!

NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.


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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6439 Posts
8 hours ago
#118661
On August 30 2026 04:22 LightSpectra wrote:
"hyperbolic apocalyptic emotion" is oBlade whenever he talks about immigrants.

Incidentally, it's probably the singular reason he writes all these humiliating screeds about Trump, if I were a betting man. Looking like a deranged pedophile-protector on the internet is all worth it in the end because he knows some brown people are suffering.

What do you think are the two very worst things I've ever said about immigrants? Just produce the quotes now. You won't even get a screed, I promise, it's just to satisfy curiosity and give you an honest chance to back up what you say.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3106 Posts
8 hours ago
#118662
When you said you didn't care that Trump was using literal Nazi language about immigrants because you had to vote for someone to do something about the thousands of immigrants.

https://tl.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=5762#115234
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2221 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-29 20:10:00
7 hours ago
#118663
On August 30 2026 04:35 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:38 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 02:48 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Oblade, do you think the name change is permanent? Do you think it’s worth the 100m -200m price tag? How is it better?

Great question. Unfortunately I have limited confidence in your knowledge and ability to estimate the cost of the US government changing the name of a lake. I notice it's already been discounted compared to what you thought on the immediately preceding page (lol).

That said, the cost of CTRL-F find and replacing "Lake Ontario" in some documents could certainly end up paying dividends in whatever wounded Canadian negotiators are willing to pay to have it undone, sure. Very possible given how important it appears to their base.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
This is just like you being pro continuing the Vietnam war a couple pages ago.

The Vietnam War is LONG over. Good luck continuing that, whatever that means. You'd have to restart it first.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Have you ever considered how many of your political views have been formed just to try to win dumb ass arguments online?

"This doesn't matter" is not a formed view. It's just the default.


On August 30 2026 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."

Posts this despite already being linked the source of the authority.

It's specifically in the executive branch. It's 43 USC 364. Congress passed it. Obama used it to rename Mt. McKinley to Denali. Because it wasn't enough that Mt. McKinley was in Denali National Park, the mountain had to be officially Denali too. 100% in his power. Who did you think has the authority? Judge Boasberg?

I used chat gpt, said so earlier.

So is this you excusing yourself for posting random numbers, or trying to cite that you have a reliable source I should take the number seriously? If I wanted to talk to ChatGPT I would but it's not Canadian.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
Fun to watch you type so many words and not be able to answer anything.

What have I left unanswered? Besides the have you stopped beating your wife questions.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
It’s funny that you think we’re really mad. We just think you’re really stupid and feel bad for you and understand we need to find adult partners to deal with.

The end of a great alliance because of a thin skinned nepo baby is sad. But your worship of him fucking your own country is pathetic.

What exactly you think is the end of the US/Canada alliance? Mapgate? Or Carney's side walking away from trade negotiations right before an election? (My personal is opinion: Neither and your premise that an alliance is ending is alarmism.)

You can say you're not "mad" (I don't think I used that word) but whatever the correct word for the hyperbolic apocalyptic emotion you've always got turned up to 11 is, the fact that you can't turn it down after every single time reality proves you wrong is not healthy. Like you're not going to remember next year when there's still NORAD and Canada and the US are probably trading fine. The same way it's not dawning on you now that the world's economy hasn't blown up because of Iran.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
I just hope we don’t go nuclear and tax oil and aluminum nuking both economies.

That'd be hilarious, watching you find a way to blame Trump.


No mush brain, I used it a said that’s where it from.

Show nested quote +
mush brain

Show nested quote +
I used it a said that's where it from.

Okay. One more time.

Are you saying: "I got it from ChatGPT, it's okay sorry just ignore it."
Or are you saying: "I got it from ChatGPT, you have to believe it."
Because "I got it from ChatGPT but otherwise fundamentally have no way to evaluate its veracity" leads me strongly back to the first.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
We will always trade with the US, because of location and size of economy . It just won’t be our first choice and we will only do it when it’s the best option for us.

Trumps deal will end up worse for everyone but him personally and you, being a sheeple who gets all his “facts” from memes will think you some how won.

It won't be your first choice, okay. Why, you mean because of Mapgate/overreaction? Or is there some detailed actual perspective you have about the real negotiations that would be fresh to hear? Like if you have a view of something like Trump ramped up tariffs on Canada too early before CUSMA was over even if Trump thought the the US trade deficit with Canada disadvantaged the US too much. That would make sense. That's a fair basic framework. But that wouldn't cause a fallthrough now because those issues are months old.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
Again, think the lake name change is permanent?

Nothing is permanent, also answered already, if shrewd Canadian negotiators can get it undone it won't even last a year.
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
A good use of tax dollars?

Literally answered. $10,000 in man-hours editing files to get $100 million in trade benefits for CUSMA II? That'd be good. $0.8 billion to replace the word "Ontario" with "Ontario?" Don't make me laugh.
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
Who won the 2020 election?

If you don't know who won the 2020 election by now in 2026 you need help, my friend. It was in all the papers.
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
USA should have stayed in Vietnam?

The US should have won Vietnam. Not stayed.

By questions I assume you meant germane to the topic at hand. Not the Vietnam War lol. What's next in the random 8-ball? Want to know who I'd vote for if I lived in California in 1952? My favorite MASH character?

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 03:42 Gescom wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:17 oBlade wrote:
You continue to take this so personally it can't be healthy.

My family is a blended Canadian-American family, and I live 10 minutes from Lake Ontario.

It's not about renaming a lake, its about the erosion of the relationship. Obviously.

Forgive me for "taking it personally".

Also, you're not understanding what an official language means. You're a bright guy, so I'll assume you're being obtuse about it intentionally.

Okay, how am I not? Canada's official languages are English and French.

I’m saying if you have a better source then high powered google, show it. Not just you making up shit.

You really think Trump is going to out negotiate, the great Trump was able to get with Katy Perry’s boyfriend now with Carney? Seems overly optimistic.

I know it was Biden, but you can’t say it because you are scared that in admitting truth, maybe you would have to be honest about all sorts of things. Getting back to reality is a slippery slope.


Ahh yes, USA should have won with out staying longer? Or the campus protests hurt the armies feelings so bad their performance dropped? This is up there with your dumbest, especially with all the declassified info on it now.

Is your current analysis of the Iran war that they should win and not stay? Don’t worry after Trump completely capitulates he will tell you he won and you will believe him.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44258 Posts
7 hours ago
#118664
oblade famously doesn’t believe in Iran
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2221 Posts
7 hours ago
#118665
Ahh yes. Another classic that he has somehow never learned from.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6439 Posts
6 hours ago
#118666
On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 04:35 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:38 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 02:48 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Oblade, do you think the name change is permanent? Do you think it’s worth the 100m -200m price tag? How is it better?

Great question. Unfortunately I have limited confidence in your knowledge and ability to estimate the cost of the US government changing the name of a lake. I notice it's already been discounted compared to what you thought on the immediately preceding page (lol).

That said, the cost of CTRL-F find and replacing "Lake Ontario" in some documents could certainly end up paying dividends in whatever wounded Canadian negotiators are willing to pay to have it undone, sure. Very possible given how important it appears to their base.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
This is just like you being pro continuing the Vietnam war a couple pages ago.

The Vietnam War is LONG over. Good luck continuing that, whatever that means. You'd have to restart it first.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Have you ever considered how many of your political views have been formed just to try to win dumb ass arguments online?

"This doesn't matter" is not a formed view. It's just the default.


On August 30 2026 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."

Posts this despite already being linked the source of the authority.

It's specifically in the executive branch. It's 43 USC 364. Congress passed it. Obama used it to rename Mt. McKinley to Denali. Because it wasn't enough that Mt. McKinley was in Denali National Park, the mountain had to be officially Denali too. 100% in his power. Who did you think has the authority? Judge Boasberg?

I used chat gpt, said so earlier.

So is this you excusing yourself for posting random numbers, or trying to cite that you have a reliable source I should take the number seriously? If I wanted to talk to ChatGPT I would but it's not Canadian.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
Fun to watch you type so many words and not be able to answer anything.

What have I left unanswered? Besides the have you stopped beating your wife questions.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
It’s funny that you think we’re really mad. We just think you’re really stupid and feel bad for you and understand we need to find adult partners to deal with.

The end of a great alliance because of a thin skinned nepo baby is sad. But your worship of him fucking your own country is pathetic.

What exactly you think is the end of the US/Canada alliance? Mapgate? Or Carney's side walking away from trade negotiations right before an election? (My personal is opinion: Neither and your premise that an alliance is ending is alarmism.)

You can say you're not "mad" (I don't think I used that word) but whatever the correct word for the hyperbolic apocalyptic emotion you've always got turned up to 11 is, the fact that you can't turn it down after every single time reality proves you wrong is not healthy. Like you're not going to remember next year when there's still NORAD and Canada and the US are probably trading fine. The same way it's not dawning on you now that the world's economy hasn't blown up because of Iran.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
I just hope we don’t go nuclear and tax oil and aluminum nuking both economies.

That'd be hilarious, watching you find a way to blame Trump.


No mush brain, I used it a said that’s where it from.

mush brain

I used it a said that's where it from.

Okay. One more time.

Are you saying: "I got it from ChatGPT, it's okay sorry just ignore it."
Or are you saying: "I got it from ChatGPT, you have to believe it."
Because "I got it from ChatGPT but otherwise fundamentally have no way to evaluate its veracity" leads me strongly back to the first.

On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
We will always trade with the US, because of location and size of economy . It just won’t be our first choice and we will only do it when it’s the best option for us.

Trumps deal will end up worse for everyone but him personally and you, being a sheeple who gets all his “facts” from memes will think you some how won.

It won't be your first choice, okay. Why, you mean because of Mapgate/overreaction? Or is there some detailed actual perspective you have about the real negotiations that would be fresh to hear? Like if you have a view of something like Trump ramped up tariffs on Canada too early before CUSMA was over even if Trump thought the the US trade deficit with Canada disadvantaged the US too much. That would make sense. That's a fair basic framework. But that wouldn't cause a fallthrough now because those issues are months old.

On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
Again, think the lake name change is permanent?

Nothing is permanent, also answered already, if shrewd Canadian negotiators can get it undone it won't even last a year.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
A good use of tax dollars?

Literally answered. $10,000 in man-hours editing files to get $100 million in trade benefits for CUSMA II? That'd be good. $0.8 billion to replace the word "Ontario" with "Ontario?" Don't make me laugh.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
Who won the 2020 election?

If you don't know who won the 2020 election by now in 2026 you need help, my friend. It was in all the papers.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
USA should have stayed in Vietnam?

The US should have won Vietnam. Not stayed.

By questions I assume you meant germane to the topic at hand. Not the Vietnam War lol. What's next in the random 8-ball? Want to know who I'd vote for if I lived in California in 1952? My favorite MASH character?

On August 30 2026 03:42 Gescom wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:17 oBlade wrote:
You continue to take this so personally it can't be healthy.

My family is a blended Canadian-American family, and I live 10 minutes from Lake Ontario.

It's not about renaming a lake, its about the erosion of the relationship. Obviously.

Forgive me for "taking it personally".

Also, you're not understanding what an official language means. You're a bright guy, so I'll assume you're being obtuse about it intentionally.

Okay, how am I not? Canada's official languages are English and French.

I’m saying if you have a better source then high powered google, show it. Not just you making up shit.

Gemini is high powered google, not ChatGPT.

On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Ahh yes, USA should have won with out staying longer?

The US drew down troops gradually, it wasn't fighting at full power year after year after year and then poof vanished.

On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Or the campus protests hurt the armies feelings so bad their performance dropped? This is up there with your dumbest, especially with all the declassified info on it now.

Yes draftees fight worse in a war everyone is perceived to hate than volunteer professional patriots fight in a war that everyone supports. That's part of it. Johnson could not run and win on continuing the war and Nixon won a landslide off of leaving it. That was all domestic pressure.

Your last point I would like to coin the "Fallacy of appeal to a pile of declassified info that the speaker hasn't read."

On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Is your current analysis of the Iran war that they should win and not stay? Don’t worry after Trump completely capitulates he will tell you he won and you will believe him.

Didn't you tell me he capitulated already and then nothing happened? Did anything happen in the last month in this "war?"

On August 30 2026 05:28 KwarK wrote:
oblade famously doesn’t believe in Iran

6 months in and KwarK thinks the Supreme Leader, the mullahs, the IRGC, the president, the army, and parliament are just one big happy family.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2221 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-29 21:16:57
6 hours ago
#118667
On August 30 2026 06:08 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 04:35 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:38 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 02:48 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Oblade, do you think the name change is permanent? Do you think it’s worth the 100m -200m price tag? How is it better?

Great question. Unfortunately I have limited confidence in your knowledge and ability to estimate the cost of the US government changing the name of a lake. I notice it's already been discounted compared to what you thought on the immediately preceding page (lol).

That said, the cost of CTRL-F find and replacing "Lake Ontario" in some documents could certainly end up paying dividends in whatever wounded Canadian negotiators are willing to pay to have it undone, sure. Very possible given how important it appears to their base.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
This is just like you being pro continuing the Vietnam war a couple pages ago.

The Vietnam War is LONG over. Good luck continuing that, whatever that means. You'd have to restart it first.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Have you ever considered how many of your political views have been formed just to try to win dumb ass arguments online?

"This doesn't matter" is not a formed view. It's just the default.


On August 30 2026 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."

Posts this despite already being linked the source of the authority.

It's specifically in the executive branch. It's 43 USC 364. Congress passed it. Obama used it to rename Mt. McKinley to Denali. Because it wasn't enough that Mt. McKinley was in Denali National Park, the mountain had to be officially Denali too. 100% in his power. Who did you think has the authority? Judge Boasberg?

I used chat gpt, said so earlier.

So is this you excusing yourself for posting random numbers, or trying to cite that you have a reliable source I should take the number seriously? If I wanted to talk to ChatGPT I would but it's not Canadian.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
Fun to watch you type so many words and not be able to answer anything.

What have I left unanswered? Besides the have you stopped beating your wife questions.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
It’s funny that you think we’re really mad. We just think you’re really stupid and feel bad for you and understand we need to find adult partners to deal with.

The end of a great alliance because of a thin skinned nepo baby is sad. But your worship of him fucking your own country is pathetic.

What exactly you think is the end of the US/Canada alliance? Mapgate? Or Carney's side walking away from trade negotiations right before an election? (My personal is opinion: Neither and your premise that an alliance is ending is alarmism.)

You can say you're not "mad" (I don't think I used that word) but whatever the correct word for the hyperbolic apocalyptic emotion you've always got turned up to 11 is, the fact that you can't turn it down after every single time reality proves you wrong is not healthy. Like you're not going to remember next year when there's still NORAD and Canada and the US are probably trading fine. The same way it's not dawning on you now that the world's economy hasn't blown up because of Iran.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
I just hope we don’t go nuclear and tax oil and aluminum nuking both economies.

That'd be hilarious, watching you find a way to blame Trump.


No mush brain, I used it a said that’s where it from.

mush brain

I used it a said that's where it from.

Okay. One more time.

Are you saying: "I got it from ChatGPT, it's okay sorry just ignore it."
Or are you saying: "I got it from ChatGPT, you have to believe it."
Because "I got it from ChatGPT but otherwise fundamentally have no way to evaluate its veracity" leads me strongly back to the first.

On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
We will always trade with the US, because of location and size of economy . It just won’t be our first choice and we will only do it when it’s the best option for us.

Trumps deal will end up worse for everyone but him personally and you, being a sheeple who gets all his “facts” from memes will think you some how won.

It won't be your first choice, okay. Why, you mean because of Mapgate/overreaction? Or is there some detailed actual perspective you have about the real negotiations that would be fresh to hear? Like if you have a view of something like Trump ramped up tariffs on Canada too early before CUSMA was over even if Trump thought the the US trade deficit with Canada disadvantaged the US too much. That would make sense. That's a fair basic framework. But that wouldn't cause a fallthrough now because those issues are months old.

On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
Again, think the lake name change is permanent?

Nothing is permanent, also answered already, if shrewd Canadian negotiators can get it undone it won't even last a year.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
A good use of tax dollars?

Literally answered. $10,000 in man-hours editing files to get $100 million in trade benefits for CUSMA II? That'd be good. $0.8 billion to replace the word "Ontario" with "Ontario?" Don't make me laugh.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
Who won the 2020 election?

If you don't know who won the 2020 election by now in 2026 you need help, my friend. It was in all the papers.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
USA should have stayed in Vietnam?

The US should have won Vietnam. Not stayed.

By questions I assume you meant germane to the topic at hand. Not the Vietnam War lol. What's next in the random 8-ball? Want to know who I'd vote for if I lived in California in 1952? My favorite MASH character?

On August 30 2026 03:42 Gescom wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:17 oBlade wrote:
You continue to take this so personally it can't be healthy.

My family is a blended Canadian-American family, and I live 10 minutes from Lake Ontario.

It's not about renaming a lake, its about the erosion of the relationship. Obviously.

Forgive me for "taking it personally".

Also, you're not understanding what an official language means. You're a bright guy, so I'll assume you're being obtuse about it intentionally.

Okay, how am I not? Canada's official languages are English and French.

I’m saying if you have a better source then high powered google, show it. Not just you making up shit.

Gemini is high powered google, not ChatGPT.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Ahh yes, USA should have won with out staying longer?

The US drew down troops gradually, it wasn't fighting at full power year after year after year and then poof vanished.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Or the campus protests hurt the armies feelings so bad their performance dropped? This is up there with your dumbest, especially with all the declassified info on it now.

Yes draftees fight worse in a war everyone is perceived to hate than volunteer professional patriots fight in a war that everyone supports. That's part of it. Johnson could not run and win on continuing the war and Nixon won a landslide off of leaving it. That was all domestic pressure.

Your last point I would like to coin the "Fallacy of appeal to a pile of declassified info that the speaker hasn't read."

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Is your current analysis of the Iran war that they should win and not stay? Don’t worry after Trump completely capitulates he will tell you he won and you will believe him.

Didn't you tell me he capitulated already and then nothing happened? Did anything happen in the last month in this "war?"

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 05:28 KwarK wrote:
oblade famously doesn’t believe in Iran

6 months in and KwarK thinks the Supreme Leader, the mullahs, the IRGC, the president, the army, and parliament are just one big happy family.

Nope he thinks regime change has not happened, he thinks the nuclear program has not been obliterated, and he believes Iran exists. Because he lives in actual reality.

Your Vietnam knowledge is worse than Iranian, which is hard to believe. If only there was no protests, the army men would have been way better and won. That kind of misses, we’ll all context and is as stupid a take as I’ve read.

Yes I used ChatGPT as a high powered search engine , not googles AI. I also some times ask for a Kleenex when I want a tissue. It doesn’t confuse most people, but most people aren’t you.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6439 Posts
5 hours ago
#118668
On August 30 2026 06:15 Billyboy wrote:
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On August 30 2026 06:08 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 04:35 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:38 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 02:48 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Oblade, do you think the name change is permanent? Do you think it’s worth the 100m -200m price tag? How is it better?

Great question. Unfortunately I have limited confidence in your knowledge and ability to estimate the cost of the US government changing the name of a lake. I notice it's already been discounted compared to what you thought on the immediately preceding page (lol).

That said, the cost of CTRL-F find and replacing "Lake Ontario" in some documents could certainly end up paying dividends in whatever wounded Canadian negotiators are willing to pay to have it undone, sure. Very possible given how important it appears to their base.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
This is just like you being pro continuing the Vietnam war a couple pages ago.

The Vietnam War is LONG over. Good luck continuing that, whatever that means. You'd have to restart it first.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Have you ever considered how many of your political views have been formed just to try to win dumb ass arguments online?

"This doesn't matter" is not a formed view. It's just the default.


On August 30 2026 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."

Posts this despite already being linked the source of the authority.

It's specifically in the executive branch. It's 43 USC 364. Congress passed it. Obama used it to rename Mt. McKinley to Denali. Because it wasn't enough that Mt. McKinley was in Denali National Park, the mountain had to be officially Denali too. 100% in his power. Who did you think has the authority? Judge Boasberg?

I used chat gpt, said so earlier.

So is this you excusing yourself for posting random numbers, or trying to cite that you have a reliable source I should take the number seriously? If I wanted to talk to ChatGPT I would but it's not Canadian.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
Fun to watch you type so many words and not be able to answer anything.

What have I left unanswered? Besides the have you stopped beating your wife questions.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
It’s funny that you think we’re really mad. We just think you’re really stupid and feel bad for you and understand we need to find adult partners to deal with.

The end of a great alliance because of a thin skinned nepo baby is sad. But your worship of him fucking your own country is pathetic.

What exactly you think is the end of the US/Canada alliance? Mapgate? Or Carney's side walking away from trade negotiations right before an election? (My personal is opinion: Neither and your premise that an alliance is ending is alarmism.)

You can say you're not "mad" (I don't think I used that word) but whatever the correct word for the hyperbolic apocalyptic emotion you've always got turned up to 11 is, the fact that you can't turn it down after every single time reality proves you wrong is not healthy. Like you're not going to remember next year when there's still NORAD and Canada and the US are probably trading fine. The same way it's not dawning on you now that the world's economy hasn't blown up because of Iran.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
I just hope we don’t go nuclear and tax oil and aluminum nuking both economies.

That'd be hilarious, watching you find a way to blame Trump.


No mush brain, I used it a said that’s where it from.

mush brain

I used it a said that's where it from.

Okay. One more time.

Are you saying: "I got it from ChatGPT, it's okay sorry just ignore it."
Or are you saying: "I got it from ChatGPT, you have to believe it."
Because "I got it from ChatGPT but otherwise fundamentally have no way to evaluate its veracity" leads me strongly back to the first.

On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
We will always trade with the US, because of location and size of economy . It just won’t be our first choice and we will only do it when it’s the best option for us.

Trumps deal will end up worse for everyone but him personally and you, being a sheeple who gets all his “facts” from memes will think you some how won.

It won't be your first choice, okay. Why, you mean because of Mapgate/overreaction? Or is there some detailed actual perspective you have about the real negotiations that would be fresh to hear? Like if you have a view of something like Trump ramped up tariffs on Canada too early before CUSMA was over even if Trump thought the the US trade deficit with Canada disadvantaged the US too much. That would make sense. That's a fair basic framework. But that wouldn't cause a fallthrough now because those issues are months old.

On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
Again, think the lake name change is permanent?

Nothing is permanent, also answered already, if shrewd Canadian negotiators can get it undone it won't even last a year.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
A good use of tax dollars?

Literally answered. $10,000 in man-hours editing files to get $100 million in trade benefits for CUSMA II? That'd be good. $0.8 billion to replace the word "Ontario" with "Ontario?" Don't make me laugh.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
Who won the 2020 election?

If you don't know who won the 2020 election by now in 2026 you need help, my friend. It was in all the papers.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
USA should have stayed in Vietnam?

The US should have won Vietnam. Not stayed.

By questions I assume you meant germane to the topic at hand. Not the Vietnam War lol. What's next in the random 8-ball? Want to know who I'd vote for if I lived in California in 1952? My favorite MASH character?

On August 30 2026 03:42 Gescom wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:17 oBlade wrote:
You continue to take this so personally it can't be healthy.

My family is a blended Canadian-American family, and I live 10 minutes from Lake Ontario.

It's not about renaming a lake, its about the erosion of the relationship. Obviously.

Forgive me for "taking it personally".

Also, you're not understanding what an official language means. You're a bright guy, so I'll assume you're being obtuse about it intentionally.

Okay, how am I not? Canada's official languages are English and French.

I’m saying if you have a better source then high powered google, show it. Not just you making up shit.

Gemini is high powered google, not ChatGPT.

On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Ahh yes, USA should have won with out staying longer?

The US drew down troops gradually, it wasn't fighting at full power year after year after year and then poof vanished.

On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Or the campus protests hurt the armies feelings so bad their performance dropped? This is up there with your dumbest, especially with all the declassified info on it now.

Yes draftees fight worse in a war everyone is perceived to hate than volunteer professional patriots fight in a war that everyone supports. That's part of it. Johnson could not run and win on continuing the war and Nixon won a landslide off of leaving it. That was all domestic pressure.

Your last point I would like to coin the "Fallacy of appeal to a pile of declassified info that the speaker hasn't read."

On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Is your current analysis of the Iran war that they should win and not stay? Don’t worry after Trump completely capitulates he will tell you he won and you will believe him.

Didn't you tell me he capitulated already and then nothing happened? Did anything happen in the last month in this "war?"

On August 30 2026 05:28 KwarK wrote:
oblade famously doesn’t believe in Iran

6 months in and KwarK thinks the Supreme Leader, the mullahs, the IRGC, the president, the army, and parliament are just one big happy family.

Nope he thinks regime change has not happened, he thinks the nuclear program has not been obliterated, and he believes Iran exists. Because he lives in actual reality.

Your Vietnam knowledge is worse than Iranian, which is hard to believe. If only there was no protests, the army men would have been way better and won. That kind of misses, we’ll all context and is as stupid a take as I’ve read.

Yes I used ChatGPT as a high powered search engine , not googles AI. I also some times ask for a Kleenex when I want a tissue. It doesn’t confuse most people, but most people aren’t you.

Breakdown what ChatGPT budgeted all the money on. You sure it was ChatGPT and you're not just using that to mean any random LLM?

You want deference about not literally meaning Google when you said "google" right after deliberately misunderstanding a very simple point about Iran's unity lol. Think about that for a minute.

On August 30 2026 06:15 Billyboy wrote:
That kind of misses, we’ll all context and is as stupid a take as I’ve read.

I mean, okay, if you say so.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1186 Posts
5 hours ago
#118669
I hope oBlade doesn't play with chinese Legos.
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2221 Posts
4 hours ago
#118670
On August 30 2026 07:08 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 06:15 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 06:08 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 04:35 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:38 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 02:48 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Oblade, do you think the name change is permanent? Do you think it’s worth the 100m -200m price tag? How is it better?

Great question. Unfortunately I have limited confidence in your knowledge and ability to estimate the cost of the US government changing the name of a lake. I notice it's already been discounted compared to what you thought on the immediately preceding page (lol).

That said, the cost of CTRL-F find and replacing "Lake Ontario" in some documents could certainly end up paying dividends in whatever wounded Canadian negotiators are willing to pay to have it undone, sure. Very possible given how important it appears to their base.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
This is just like you being pro continuing the Vietnam war a couple pages ago.

The Vietnam War is LONG over. Good luck continuing that, whatever that means. You'd have to restart it first.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Have you ever considered how many of your political views have been formed just to try to win dumb ass arguments online?

"This doesn't matter" is not a formed view. It's just the default.


On August 30 2026 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."

Posts this despite already being linked the source of the authority.

It's specifically in the executive branch. It's 43 USC 364. Congress passed it. Obama used it to rename Mt. McKinley to Denali. Because it wasn't enough that Mt. McKinley was in Denali National Park, the mountain had to be officially Denali too. 100% in his power. Who did you think has the authority? Judge Boasberg?

I used chat gpt, said so earlier.

So is this you excusing yourself for posting random numbers, or trying to cite that you have a reliable source I should take the number seriously? If I wanted to talk to ChatGPT I would but it's not Canadian.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
Fun to watch you type so many words and not be able to answer anything.

What have I left unanswered? Besides the have you stopped beating your wife questions.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
It’s funny that you think we’re really mad. We just think you’re really stupid and feel bad for you and understand we need to find adult partners to deal with.

The end of a great alliance because of a thin skinned nepo baby is sad. But your worship of him fucking your own country is pathetic.

What exactly you think is the end of the US/Canada alliance? Mapgate? Or Carney's side walking away from trade negotiations right before an election? (My personal is opinion: Neither and your premise that an alliance is ending is alarmism.)

You can say you're not "mad" (I don't think I used that word) but whatever the correct word for the hyperbolic apocalyptic emotion you've always got turned up to 11 is, the fact that you can't turn it down after every single time reality proves you wrong is not healthy. Like you're not going to remember next year when there's still NORAD and Canada and the US are probably trading fine. The same way it's not dawning on you now that the world's economy hasn't blown up because of Iran.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
I just hope we don’t go nuclear and tax oil and aluminum nuking both economies.

That'd be hilarious, watching you find a way to blame Trump.


No mush brain, I used it a said that’s where it from.

mush brain

I used it a said that's where it from.

Okay. One more time.

Are you saying: "I got it from ChatGPT, it's okay sorry just ignore it."
Or are you saying: "I got it from ChatGPT, you have to believe it."
Because "I got it from ChatGPT but otherwise fundamentally have no way to evaluate its veracity" leads me strongly back to the first.

On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
We will always trade with the US, because of location and size of economy . It just won’t be our first choice and we will only do it when it’s the best option for us.

Trumps deal will end up worse for everyone but him personally and you, being a sheeple who gets all his “facts” from memes will think you some how won.

It won't be your first choice, okay. Why, you mean because of Mapgate/overreaction? Or is there some detailed actual perspective you have about the real negotiations that would be fresh to hear? Like if you have a view of something like Trump ramped up tariffs on Canada too early before CUSMA was over even if Trump thought the the US trade deficit with Canada disadvantaged the US too much. That would make sense. That's a fair basic framework. But that wouldn't cause a fallthrough now because those issues are months old.

On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
Again, think the lake name change is permanent?

Nothing is permanent, also answered already, if shrewd Canadian negotiators can get it undone it won't even last a year.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
A good use of tax dollars?

Literally answered. $10,000 in man-hours editing files to get $100 million in trade benefits for CUSMA II? That'd be good. $0.8 billion to replace the word "Ontario" with "Ontario?" Don't make me laugh.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
Who won the 2020 election?

If you don't know who won the 2020 election by now in 2026 you need help, my friend. It was in all the papers.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
USA should have stayed in Vietnam?

The US should have won Vietnam. Not stayed.

By questions I assume you meant germane to the topic at hand. Not the Vietnam War lol. What's next in the random 8-ball? Want to know who I'd vote for if I lived in California in 1952? My favorite MASH character?

On August 30 2026 03:42 Gescom wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:17 oBlade wrote:
You continue to take this so personally it can't be healthy.

My family is a blended Canadian-American family, and I live 10 minutes from Lake Ontario.

It's not about renaming a lake, its about the erosion of the relationship. Obviously.

Forgive me for "taking it personally".

Also, you're not understanding what an official language means. You're a bright guy, so I'll assume you're being obtuse about it intentionally.

Okay, how am I not? Canada's official languages are English and French.

I’m saying if you have a better source then high powered google, show it. Not just you making up shit.

Gemini is high powered google, not ChatGPT.

On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Ahh yes, USA should have won with out staying longer?

The US drew down troops gradually, it wasn't fighting at full power year after year after year and then poof vanished.

On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Or the campus protests hurt the armies feelings so bad their performance dropped? This is up there with your dumbest, especially with all the declassified info on it now.

Yes draftees fight worse in a war everyone is perceived to hate than volunteer professional patriots fight in a war that everyone supports. That's part of it. Johnson could not run and win on continuing the war and Nixon won a landslide off of leaving it. That was all domestic pressure.

Your last point I would like to coin the "Fallacy of appeal to a pile of declassified info that the speaker hasn't read."

On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Is your current analysis of the Iran war that they should win and not stay? Don’t worry after Trump completely capitulates he will tell you he won and you will believe him.

Didn't you tell me he capitulated already and then nothing happened? Did anything happen in the last month in this "war?"

On August 30 2026 05:28 KwarK wrote:
oblade famously doesn’t believe in Iran

6 months in and KwarK thinks the Supreme Leader, the mullahs, the IRGC, the president, the army, and parliament are just one big happy family.

Nope he thinks regime change has not happened, he thinks the nuclear program has not been obliterated, and he believes Iran exists. Because he lives in actual reality.

Your Vietnam knowledge is worse than Iranian, which is hard to believe. If only there was no protests, the army men would have been way better and won. That kind of misses, we’ll all context and is as stupid a take as I’ve read.

Yes I used ChatGPT as a high powered search engine , not googles AI. I also some times ask for a Kleenex when I want a tissue. It doesn’t confuse most people, but most people aren’t you.

Breakdown what ChatGPT budgeted all the money on. You sure it was ChatGPT and you're not just using that to mean any random LLM?

You want deference about not literally meaning Google when you said "google" right after deliberately misunderstanding a very simple point about Iran's unity lol. Think about that for a minute.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 06:15 Billyboy wrote:
That kind of misses, we’ll all context and is as stupid a take as I’ve read.

I mean, okay, if you say so.

I use Google as search engine, the same way as I use Kleenex for tissue. I can not see why you still can’t get it, because I just said the same words. But then again you are really dumb. You have your source for estimated cost yet? No? Exactly
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2221 Posts
4 hours ago
#118671
On August 30 2026 07:08 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 06:15 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 06:08 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 04:35 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:38 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 02:48 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Oblade, do you think the name change is permanent? Do you think it’s worth the 100m -200m price tag? How is it better?

Great question. Unfortunately I have limited confidence in your knowledge and ability to estimate the cost of the US government changing the name of a lake. I notice it's already been discounted compared to what you thought on the immediately preceding page (lol).

That said, the cost of CTRL-F find and replacing "Lake Ontario" in some documents could certainly end up paying dividends in whatever wounded Canadian negotiators are willing to pay to have it undone, sure. Very possible given how important it appears to their base.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
This is just like you being pro continuing the Vietnam war a couple pages ago.

The Vietnam War is LONG over. Good luck continuing that, whatever that means. You'd have to restart it first.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Have you ever considered how many of your political views have been formed just to try to win dumb ass arguments online?

"This doesn't matter" is not a formed view. It's just the default.


On August 30 2026 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."

Posts this despite already being linked the source of the authority.

It's specifically in the executive branch. It's 43 USC 364. Congress passed it. Obama used it to rename Mt. McKinley to Denali. Because it wasn't enough that Mt. McKinley was in Denali National Park, the mountain had to be officially Denali too. 100% in his power. Who did you think has the authority? Judge Boasberg?

I used chat gpt, said so earlier.

So is this you excusing yourself for posting random numbers, or trying to cite that you have a reliable source I should take the number seriously? If I wanted to talk to ChatGPT I would but it's not Canadian.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
Fun to watch you type so many words and not be able to answer anything.

What have I left unanswered? Besides the have you stopped beating your wife questions.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
It’s funny that you think we’re really mad. We just think you’re really stupid and feel bad for you and understand we need to find adult partners to deal with.

The end of a great alliance because of a thin skinned nepo baby is sad. But your worship of him fucking your own country is pathetic.

What exactly you think is the end of the US/Canada alliance? Mapgate? Or Carney's side walking away from trade negotiations right before an election? (My personal is opinion: Neither and your premise that an alliance is ending is alarmism.)

You can say you're not "mad" (I don't think I used that word) but whatever the correct word for the hyperbolic apocalyptic emotion you've always got turned up to 11 is, the fact that you can't turn it down after every single time reality proves you wrong is not healthy. Like you're not going to remember next year when there's still NORAD and Canada and the US are probably trading fine. The same way it's not dawning on you now that the world's economy hasn't blown up because of Iran.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
I just hope we don’t go nuclear and tax oil and aluminum nuking both economies.

That'd be hilarious, watching you find a way to blame Trump.


No mush brain, I used it a said that’s where it from.

mush brain

I used it a said that's where it from.

Okay. One more time.

Are you saying: "I got it from ChatGPT, it's okay sorry just ignore it."
Or are you saying: "I got it from ChatGPT, you have to believe it."
Because "I got it from ChatGPT but otherwise fundamentally have no way to evaluate its veracity" leads me strongly back to the first.

On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
We will always trade with the US, because of location and size of economy . It just won’t be our first choice and we will only do it when it’s the best option for us.

Trumps deal will end up worse for everyone but him personally and you, being a sheeple who gets all his “facts” from memes will think you some how won.

It won't be your first choice, okay. Why, you mean because of Mapgate/overreaction? Or is there some detailed actual perspective you have about the real negotiations that would be fresh to hear? Like if you have a view of something like Trump ramped up tariffs on Canada too early before CUSMA was over even if Trump thought the the US trade deficit with Canada disadvantaged the US too much. That would make sense. That's a fair basic framework. But that wouldn't cause a fallthrough now because those issues are months old.

On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
Again, think the lake name change is permanent?

Nothing is permanent, also answered already, if shrewd Canadian negotiators can get it undone it won't even last a year.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
A good use of tax dollars?

Literally answered. $10,000 in man-hours editing files to get $100 million in trade benefits for CUSMA II? That'd be good. $0.8 billion to replace the word "Ontario" with "Ontario?" Don't make me laugh.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
Who won the 2020ô election?

If you don't know who won the 2020 election by now in 2026 you need help, my friend. It was in all the papers.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
USA should have stayed in Vietnam?

The US should have won Vietnam. Not stayed.

By questions I assume you meant germane to the topic at hand. Not the Vietnam War lol. What's next in the random 8-ball? Want to know who I'd vote for if I lived in California in 1952? My favorite MASH character?

On August 30 2026 03:42 Gescom wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:17 oBlade wrote:
You continue to take this so personally it can't be healthy.

My family is a blended Canadian-American family, and I live 10 minutes from Lake Ontario.

It's not about renaming a lake, its about the erosion of the relationship. Obviously.

Forgive me for "taking it personally".

Also, you're not understanding what an official language means. You're a bright guy, so I'll assume you're being obtuse about it intentionally.

Okay, how am I not? Canada's official languages are English and French.

I’m saying if you have a better source then high powered google, show it. Not just you making up shit.

Gemini is high powered google, not ChatGPT.

On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Ahh yes, USA should have won with out staying longer?

The US drew down troops gradually, it wasn't fighting at full power year after year after year and then poof vanished.

On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Or the campus protests hurt the armies feelings so bad their performance dropped? This is up there with your dumbest, especially with all the declassified info on it now.

Yes draftees fight worse in a war everyone is perceived to hate than volunteer professional patriots fight in a war that everyone supports. That's part of it. Johnson could not run and win on continuing the war and Nixon won a landslide off of leaving it. That was all domestic pressure.

Your last point I would like to coin the "Fallacy of appeal to a pile of declassified info that the speaker hasn't read."

On August 30 2026 05:08 Billyboy wrote:
Is your current analysis of the Iran war that they should win and not stay? Don’t worry after Trump completely capitulates he will tell you he won and you will believe him.

Didn't you tell me he capitulated already and then nothing happened? Did anything happen in the last month in this "war?"

On August 30 2026 05:28 KwarK wrote:
oblade famously doesn’t believe in Iran

6 months in and KwarK thinks the Supreme Leader, the mullahs, the IRGC, the president, the army, and parliament are just one big happy family.

Nope he thinks regime change has not happened, he thinks the nuclear program has not been obliterated, and he believes Iran exists. Because he lives in actual reality.

Your Vietnam knowledge is worse than Iranian, which is hard to believe. If only there was no protests, the army men would have been way better and won. That kind of misses, we’ll all context and is as stupid a take as I’ve read.

Yes I used ChatGPT as a high powered search engine , not googles AI. I also some times ask for a Kleenex when I want a tissue. It doesn’t confuse most people, but most people aren’t you.

Breakdown what ChatGPT budgeted all the money on. You sure it was ChatGPT and you're not just using that to mean any random LLM?

You want deference about not literally meaning Google when you said "google" right after deliberately misunderstanding a very simple point about Iran's unity lol. Think about that for a minute.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 06:15 Billyboy wrote:
That kind of misses, we’ll all context and is as stupid a take as I’ve read.

I mean, okay, if you say so.

I use Google as search engine, the same way as I use Kleenex for tissue. I can not see why you still can’t get it, because I just said the same words. But then again you are really dumb. You have your source for estimated cost yet? No? Exactly
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