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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46578 Posts
August 29 2026 13:07 GMT
#118641
On August 29 2026 13:16 dyhb wrote:
It's gonna remain HOMES and be officially HOMES after some executive orders in the next admin.

Agreed. Nowhere outside of possibly the dumbest, most conservative Bible Belt elementary schools will there be teachers teaching kids Donald Trump's new labels for things.

It is quite fitting, however, that Trump's new version leads to the acronym SHAME, as Billyboy pointed out.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12058 Posts
August 29 2026 14:44 GMT
#118642
On August 29 2026 22:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2026 13:16 dyhb wrote:
It's gonna remain HOMES and be officially HOMES after some executive orders in the next admin.

Agreed. Nowhere outside of possibly the dumbest, most conservative Bible Belt elementary schools will there be teachers teaching kids Donald Trump's new labels for things.

It is quite fitting, however, that Trump's new version leads to the acronym SHAME, as Billyboy pointed out.


"We used to have homes, now we only have shame"

An apt description of the Trump presidency.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6623 Posts
August 29 2026 16:17 GMT
#118643
On August 29 2026 21:34 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2026 17:13 oBlade wrote:"I am going to call this water America lol."
"You can't do that!"
"Why not, is it your water?"
"Uhhh"

Up until the other day, it was OUR water. TOGETHER. Comparing how China and Japan and Taiwan name their things is again, absolutely f*cking wild on your part. Are we (were we?) not the greatest allies in the history of this Earth?

No president other than DJT would have pulled any of these stunts. Trying to make sense of it is just mental gymnastics to the Nth degree.

The name does not change anything. You could call Lake Michigan Lake Votedforbadorangemantwice and it would not change anything. The fact no other president would do it does not make it matter. Personally since you asked I'd give the world record allies to the US/UK and consider Canada more of an unofficial bonus US extension, especially if the relationship is so fragile that the lynchpins are random things like the names of some water.

On August 29 2026 21:34 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2026 17:13 oBlade wrote:"Also I notice you glossed over šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street. Do you live on šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street, or does šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street affect you personally? While singling out Ryerson you seem to think I was born yesterday and would simply miss you completely ignoring šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street. I think a good faith human would at least have been able to agree "you know oBlade you're right, in the case of šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street I think they went a little overboard that's true" instead of pretending šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street never happened."

Glossed over it because it's an irrelevant false equivalency. But, despite your odd assumptions, I am able to think for myself! I agree that it's "silly"/overboard.

They establish that name-changing is already accepted and prevalent and that names do evolve.

No two situations are exactly equivalent which is why I brought some more into the fold for context. Pointing at each individual one and going "This is not the exact same" missed the point. They are relevant for being name changes, made through legal processes.
On August 29 2026 21:34 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2026 17:13 oBlade wrote:Personally if Carney collapsed negotiations at me over "French" issues I would retaliate by demanding Spanish language in Canada or something.

French is an official language in Canada and we have a French province. There is no US equivalency.

Equivalency? Interesting perspective. "I'll trade you 5 pears for those 5 carrots." "False equivalency. Pears aren't vegetables." The thing doesn't have to be the exact same opposite thing for a side to demand it in negotiations. Why would it? Canada demanding "French" whatever already has no equivalency within US demands.

If you demand A from someone and they demand B in return, you could go "actually there's no equivalency" and then just get to enjoy being deadlocked.

No, you know what you're right, then if Carney collapsed negotiations for allegedly "French" issues (Canadian government still hasn't released the draft/proposal of what they walked away from) with me as president I'd just instantly turn off the pipelines that flow back into Canada or apply pressure in some other way. And then I'd go make a deal with Venezuela which the US already just did. I thought my initial idea was more appropriate and reasonable but if that's unfair because Spanish isn't technically an official language then so be it.

On August 29 2026 21:34 Gescom wrote:
Besides, no issue should be created in the first place. We had a deal (CUSMA). What are you getting at with these kinds of statements? You're arguing as though any of this makes an iota of sense. The Conservative camp seems to have an amazing talent at gaslighting and eroding reality one day at a time. I even find your musings on Lake Superior to be absolutely bizarre -- feels like some exercise in normalizing the situation. "Oh, well, I wouldn't have done it exactly like this, but here's why randomly renaming an international body of water that has stood for 300y in a tantrum makes 80% sense. Here's the 20% change I'd personally make. See guys -- I can criticize Trump!!"

Same thing with the Sea of Japan. Like, wow man. People are talking again like we don't share the world's longest undefended border with 200y of peace and prosperity. Like it never happened.

So it's just the age? It's not the Canada-ness of the name? Like I think all the factors that go into names are interesting, your point is "Name old. Stop thinking further." Got it. Lake Superior despite being old is a pretty shitty name objectively at this point when all the others have native names but you admitting that would be another case of the normalization of... thinking about ideas lol.

You continue to take this so personally it can't be healthy.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
August 29 2026 16:29 GMT
#118644
lol.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2605 Posts
August 29 2026 16:55 GMT
#118645
Oblade, do you think the name change is permanent? Do you think it’s worth the 100m -200m price tag? How is it better?


This is just like you being pro continuing the Vietnam war a couple pages ago. Have you ever considered how many of your political views have been formed just to try to win dumb ass arguments online? Do you have any actual values?

Such a strange political movement.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3409 Posts
August 29 2026 17:03 GMT
#118646
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6623 Posts
August 29 2026 17:48 GMT
#118647
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Oblade, do you think the name change is permanent? Do you think it’s worth the 100m -200m price tag? How is it better?

Great question. Unfortunately I have limited confidence in your knowledge and ability to estimate the cost of the US government changing the name of a lake. I notice it's already been discounted compared to what you thought on the immediately preceding page (lol).

That said, the cost of CTRL-F find and replacing "Lake Ontario" in some documents could certainly end up paying dividends in whatever wounded Canadian negotiators are willing to pay to have it undone, sure. Very possible given how important it appears to their base.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
This is just like you being pro continuing the Vietnam war a couple pages ago.

The Vietnam War is LONG over. Good luck continuing that, whatever that means. You'd have to restart it first.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Have you ever considered how many of your political views have been formed just to try to win dumb ass arguments online?

"This doesn't matter" is not a formed view. It's just the default.


On August 30 2026 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."

Posts this despite already being linked the source of the authority.

It's specifically in the executive branch. It's 43 USC 364. Congress passed it. Obama used it to rename Mt. McKinley to Denali. Because it wasn't enough that Mt. McKinley was in Denali National Park, the mountain had to be officially Denali too. 100% in his power. Who did you think has the authority? Judge Boasberg?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland965 Posts
August 29 2026 17:55 GMT
#118648
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
This is just like you being pro continuing the Vietnam war a couple pages ago. Have you ever considered how many of your political views have been formed just to try to win dumb ass arguments online? Do you have any actual values?


You know the answer to both of these.
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Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2605 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-29 18:08:26
August 29 2026 18:00 GMT
#118649
On August 30 2026 02:48 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Oblade, do you think the name change is permanent? Do you think it’s worth the 100m -200m price tag? How is it better?

Great question. Unfortunately I have limited confidence in your knowledge and ability to estimate the cost of the US government changing the name of a lake. I notice it's already been discounted compared to what you thought on the immediately preceding page (lol).

That said, the cost of CTRL-F find and replacing "Lake Ontario" in some documents could certainly end up paying dividends in whatever wounded Canadian negotiators are willing to pay to have it undone, sure. Very possible given how important it appears to their base.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
This is just like you being pro continuing the Vietnam war a couple pages ago.

The Vietnam War is LONG over. Good luck continuing that, whatever that means. You'd have to restart it first.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Have you ever considered how many of your political views have been formed just to try to win dumb ass arguments online?

"This doesn't matter" is not a formed view. It's just the default.


Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."

Posts this despite already being linked the source of the authority.

It's specifically in the executive branch. It's 43 USC 364. Congress passed it. Obama used it to rename Mt. McKinley to Denali. Because it wasn't enough that Mt. McKinley was in Denali National Park, the mountain had to be officially Denali too. 100% in his power. Who did you think has the authority? Judge Boasberg?

I used chat gpt, said so earlier. Fun to watch you type so many words and not be able to answer anything.

It’s funny that you think we’re really mad. We just think you’re really stupid and feel bad for you and understand we need to find adult partners to deal with.

The end of a great alliance because of a thin skinned nepo baby is sad. But your worship of him fucking your own country is pathetic.

I just hope we don’t go nuclear and tax oil and aluminum nuking both economies.

On August 30 2026 02:55 hexhaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
This is just like you being pro continuing the Vietnam war a couple pages ago. Have you ever considered how many of your political views have been formed just to try to win dumb ass arguments online? Do you have any actual values?


You know the answer to both of these.

I do, locally some have poked there head out of the rabbit hole. Oblade is still chugging shit as hard as he can sadly.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46578 Posts
August 29 2026 18:21 GMT
#118650
On August 30 2026 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."

The only supranational body that MAGA believes in is Jesus Christ.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-29 18:28:23
August 29 2026 18:26 GMT
#118651
It's also not much of a checkmate because I also disagree with renaming streets using characters I cannot even read like upside down numbers. I generally think you should be able to parse a name from its letters and plain spellings of indigenous names is perfectly serviceable and have been used for generations (Tsawwassen, Cowichan, Nanaimo, Comox) rather than using the unreadable hieroglyphs the nerds in the linguistics department cooked up for themselves. As neither are indigenous lettering (none of the groups had any as far as I've seen) and as they both use letters inherited from Carolingian minuscule both would be equally 'colonial' or 'imperial' or 'oppressive' or 'respectful' or 'honouring' no matter what rubric you use.

And I strongly disagree with the ahistorical and broad-sweeping smear jobs on people like Ryerson.

All that to say, Screw off.
And keep sweeping for Daddy Trump, oBlade. He is never wrong.

In Trump We Trust.
Our lord and saviour.
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Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2605 Posts
August 29 2026 18:37 GMT
#118652
On August 30 2026 03:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."

The only supranational body that MAGA believes in is Jesus Christ.

Not the one in the bible, the one mega churches talk about to scam their money.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6623 Posts
August 29 2026 18:38 GMT
#118653
On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 02:48 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Oblade, do you think the name change is permanent? Do you think it’s worth the 100m -200m price tag? How is it better?

Great question. Unfortunately I have limited confidence in your knowledge and ability to estimate the cost of the US government changing the name of a lake. I notice it's already been discounted compared to what you thought on the immediately preceding page (lol).

That said, the cost of CTRL-F find and replacing "Lake Ontario" in some documents could certainly end up paying dividends in whatever wounded Canadian negotiators are willing to pay to have it undone, sure. Very possible given how important it appears to their base.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
This is just like you being pro continuing the Vietnam war a couple pages ago.

The Vietnam War is LONG over. Good luck continuing that, whatever that means. You'd have to restart it first.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Have you ever considered how many of your political views have been formed just to try to win dumb ass arguments online?

"This doesn't matter" is not a formed view. It's just the default.


On August 30 2026 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."

Posts this despite already being linked the source of the authority.

It's specifically in the executive branch. It's 43 USC 364. Congress passed it. Obama used it to rename Mt. McKinley to Denali. Because it wasn't enough that Mt. McKinley was in Denali National Park, the mountain had to be officially Denali too. 100% in his power. Who did you think has the authority? Judge Boasberg?

I used chat gpt, said so earlier.

So is this you excusing yourself for posting random numbers, or trying to cite that you have a reliable source I should take the number seriously? If I wanted to talk to ChatGPT I would but it's not Canadian.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
Fun to watch you type so many words and not be able to answer anything.

What have I left unanswered? Besides the have you stopped beating your wife questions.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
It’s funny that you think we’re really mad. We just think you’re really stupid and feel bad for you and understand we need to find adult partners to deal with.

The end of a great alliance because of a thin skinned nepo baby is sad. But your worship of him fucking your own country is pathetic.

What exactly you think is the end of the US/Canada alliance? Mapgate? Or Carney's side walking away from trade negotiations right before an election? (My personal is opinion: Neither and your premise that an alliance is ending is alarmism.)

You can say you're not "mad" (I don't think I used that word) but whatever the correct word for the hyperbolic apocalyptic emotion you've always got turned up to 11 is, the fact that you can't turn it down after every single time reality proves you wrong is not healthy. Like you're not going to remember next year when there's still NORAD and Canada and the US are probably trading fine. The same way it's not dawning on you now that the world's economy hasn't blown up because of Iran.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
I just hope we don’t go nuclear and tax oil and aluminum nuking both economies.

That'd be hilarious, watching you find a way to blame Trump.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3517 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-29 18:45:59
August 29 2026 18:42 GMT
#118654
On August 30 2026 01:17 oBlade wrote:
You continue to take this so personally it can't be healthy.

My family is a blended Canadian-American family, and I live 10 minutes from Lake Ontario.

It's not about renaming a lake, its about the erosion of the relationship. Obviously.

Forgive me for "taking it personally".

Also, you're not understanding what an official language means. You're a bright guy, so I'll assume you're being obtuse about it intentionally.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10017 Posts
August 29 2026 18:43 GMT
#118655
On August 30 2026 03:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."

The only supranational body that MAGA believes in is Jesus Christ.

But not the same Jesus Christ the rest of the world believes in.
A super special Jesus Christ who mainly cares about hating gay people and getting rich.
RIP Meatloaf <3
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
August 29 2026 18:46 GMT
#118656
On August 30 2026 03:42 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 01:17 oBlade wrote:
You continue to take this so personally it can't be healthy.

My family is a blended Canadian-American family, and I live 10 minutes from Lake Ontario.

It's not about renaming a lake, its about the erosion of the relationship. Obviously.

Forgive me for "taking it personally".

It’s also a fucking stupid name. Aye let’s just swap existing names for ‘America’ that’s cool and based…
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2605 Posts
August 29 2026 18:51 GMT
#118657
On August 30 2026 03:38 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 02:48 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Oblade, do you think the name change is permanent? Do you think it’s worth the 100m -200m price tag? How is it better?

Great question. Unfortunately I have limited confidence in your knowledge and ability to estimate the cost of the US government changing the name of a lake. I notice it's already been discounted compared to what you thought on the immediately preceding page (lol).

That said, the cost of CTRL-F find and replacing "Lake Ontario" in some documents could certainly end up paying dividends in whatever wounded Canadian negotiators are willing to pay to have it undone, sure. Very possible given how important it appears to their base.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
This is just like you being pro continuing the Vietnam war a couple pages ago.

The Vietnam War is LONG over. Good luck continuing that, whatever that means. You'd have to restart it first.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Have you ever considered how many of your political views have been formed just to try to win dumb ass arguments online?

"This doesn't matter" is not a formed view. It's just the default.


On August 30 2026 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."

Posts this despite already being linked the source of the authority.

It's specifically in the executive branch. It's 43 USC 364. Congress passed it. Obama used it to rename Mt. McKinley to Denali. Because it wasn't enough that Mt. McKinley was in Denali National Park, the mountain had to be officially Denali too. 100% in his power. Who did you think has the authority? Judge Boasberg?

I used chat gpt, said so earlier.

So is this you excusing yourself for posting random numbers, or trying to cite that you have a reliable source I should take the number seriously? If I wanted to talk to ChatGPT I would but it's not Canadian.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
Fun to watch you type so many words and not be able to answer anything.

What have I left unanswered? Besides the have you stopped beating your wife questions.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
It’s funny that you think we’re really mad. We just think you’re really stupid and feel bad for you and understand we need to find adult partners to deal with.

The end of a great alliance because of a thin skinned nepo baby is sad. But your worship of him fucking your own country is pathetic.

What exactly you think is the end of the US/Canada alliance? Mapgate? Or Carney's side walking away from trade negotiations right before an election? (My personal is opinion: Neither and your premise that an alliance is ending is alarmism.)

You can say you're not "mad" (I don't think I used that word) but whatever the correct word for the hyperbolic apocalyptic emotion you've always got turned up to 11 is, the fact that you can't turn it down after every single time reality proves you wrong is not healthy. Like you're not going to remember next year when there's still NORAD and Canada and the US are probably trading fine. The same way it's not dawning on you now that the world's economy hasn't blown up because of Iran.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
I just hope we don’t go nuclear and tax oil and aluminum nuking both economies.

That'd be hilarious, watching you find a way to blame Trump.


No mush brain, I used it a said that’s where it from.

We will always trade with the US, because of location and size of economy . It just won’t be our first choice and we will only do it when it’s the best option for us.

Trumps deal will end up worse for everyone but him personally and you, being a sheeple who gets all his “facts” from memes will think you some how won.

Again, think the lake name change is permanent? A good use of tax dollars? Who won the 2020 election? USA should have stayed in Vietnam?

The list of easy questions to answer for people that are not morons but you can’t answer just keeps growing.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3409 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-29 19:24:53
August 29 2026 19:22 GMT
#118658
"hyperbolic apocalyptic emotion" is oBlade whenever he talks about immigrants.

Incidentally, it's probably the singular reason he writes all these humiliating screeds about Trump, if I were a betting man. Looking like a deranged pedophile-protector on the internet is all worth it in the end because he knows some brown people are suffering.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12058 Posts
August 29 2026 19:23 GMT
#118659
On August 30 2026 03:46 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2026 03:42 Gescom wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:17 oBlade wrote:
You continue to take this so personally it can't be healthy.

My family is a blended Canadian-American family, and I live 10 minutes from Lake Ontario.

It's not about renaming a lake, its about the erosion of the relationship. Obviously.

Forgive me for "taking it personally".

It’s also a fucking stupid name. Aye let’s just swap existing names for ‘America’ that’s cool and based…


I think we should just go to the max with that idea. Every city on the North American continent is now called America City. Every mountain is called Mount America. Every Lake is Lake America, every ocean is the Sea of America or the American Sea. Every Road is now called America Road, America Lane or maybe America Street. We can even go further and have every tree be called the American Americaner and every animal be called the American Americaribou.
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On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
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On August 30 2026 03:38 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
On August 30 2026 02:48 oBlade wrote:
On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Oblade, do you think the name change is permanent? Do you think it’s worth the 100m -200m price tag? How is it better?

Great question. Unfortunately I have limited confidence in your knowledge and ability to estimate the cost of the US government changing the name of a lake. I notice it's already been discounted compared to what you thought on the immediately preceding page (lol).

That said, the cost of CTRL-F find and replacing "Lake Ontario" in some documents could certainly end up paying dividends in whatever wounded Canadian negotiators are willing to pay to have it undone, sure. Very possible given how important it appears to their base.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
This is just like you being pro continuing the Vietnam war a couple pages ago.

The Vietnam War is LONG over. Good luck continuing that, whatever that means. You'd have to restart it first.

On August 30 2026 01:55 Billyboy wrote:
Have you ever considered how many of your political views have been formed just to try to win dumb ass arguments online?

"This doesn't matter" is not a formed view. It's just the default.


On August 30 2026 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
"Dear liberals, if you're fine with Canadian streets having indigenous names, why wouldn't you be fine with a child rapist renaming a supranational body of water using authority he doesn't have? Checkmate."

Posts this despite already being linked the source of the authority.

It's specifically in the executive branch. It's 43 USC 364. Congress passed it. Obama used it to rename Mt. McKinley to Denali. Because it wasn't enough that Mt. McKinley was in Denali National Park, the mountain had to be officially Denali too. 100% in his power. Who did you think has the authority? Judge Boasberg?

I used chat gpt, said so earlier.

So is this you excusing yourself for posting random numbers, or trying to cite that you have a reliable source I should take the number seriously? If I wanted to talk to ChatGPT I would but it's not Canadian.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
Fun to watch you type so many words and not be able to answer anything.

What have I left unanswered? Besides the have you stopped beating your wife questions.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
It’s funny that you think we’re really mad. We just think you’re really stupid and feel bad for you and understand we need to find adult partners to deal with.

The end of a great alliance because of a thin skinned nepo baby is sad. But your worship of him fucking your own country is pathetic.

What exactly you think is the end of the US/Canada alliance? Mapgate? Or Carney's side walking away from trade negotiations right before an election? (My personal is opinion: Neither and your premise that an alliance is ending is alarmism.)

You can say you're not "mad" (I don't think I used that word) but whatever the correct word for the hyperbolic apocalyptic emotion you've always got turned up to 11 is, the fact that you can't turn it down after every single time reality proves you wrong is not healthy. Like you're not going to remember next year when there's still NORAD and Canada and the US are probably trading fine. The same way it's not dawning on you now that the world's economy hasn't blown up because of Iran.

On August 30 2026 03:00 Billyboy wrote:
I just hope we don’t go nuclear and tax oil and aluminum nuking both economies.

That'd be hilarious, watching you find a way to blame Trump.


No mush brain, I used it a said that’s where it from.

mush brain

I used it a said that's where it from.

Okay. One more time.

Are you saying: "I got it from ChatGPT, it's okay sorry just ignore it."
Or are you saying: "I got it from ChatGPT, you have to believe it."
Because "I got it from ChatGPT but otherwise fundamentally have no way to evaluate its veracity" leads me strongly back to the first.

On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
We will always trade with the US, because of location and size of economy . It just won’t be our first choice and we will only do it when it’s the best option for us.

Trumps deal will end up worse for everyone but him personally and you, being a sheeple who gets all his “facts” from memes will think you some how won.

It won't be your first choice, okay. Why, you mean because of Mapgate/overreaction? Or is there some detailed actual perspective you have about the real negotiations that would be fresh to hear? Like if you have a view of something like Trump ramped up tariffs on Canada too early before CUSMA was over even if Trump thought the the US trade deficit with Canada disadvantaged the US too much. That would make sense. That's a fair basic framework. But that wouldn't cause a fallthrough now because those issues are months old.

On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
Again, think the lake name change is permanent?

Nothing is permanent, also answered already, if shrewd Canadian negotiators can get it undone it won't even last a year.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
A good use of tax dollars?

Literally answered. $10,000 in man-hours editing files to get $100 million in trade benefits for CUSMA II? That'd be good. $0.8 billion to replace the word "Ontario" with "Ontario?" Don't make me laugh.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
Who won the 2020 election?

If you don't know who won the 2020 election by now in 2026 you need help, my friend. It was in all the papers.
On August 30 2026 03:51 Billyboy wrote:
USA should have stayed in Vietnam?

The US should have won Vietnam. Not stayed.

By questions I assume you meant germane to the topic at hand. Not the Vietnam War lol. What's next in the random 8-ball? Want to know who I'd vote for if I lived in California in 1952? My favorite MASH character?

On August 30 2026 03:42 Gescom wrote:
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On August 30 2026 01:17 oBlade wrote:
You continue to take this so personally it can't be healthy.

My family is a blended Canadian-American family, and I live 10 minutes from Lake Ontario.

It's not about renaming a lake, its about the erosion of the relationship. Obviously.

Forgive me for "taking it personally".

Also, you're not understanding what an official language means. You're a bright guy, so I'll assume you're being obtuse about it intentionally.

Okay, how am I not? Canada's official languages are English and French.
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