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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18476 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-28 07:07:44
August 28 2026 07:04 GMT
#118601
On August 28 2026 15:46 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2026 08:11 Falling wrote:
Make him more mad and see how many things he renames to "America" at some point you will travel from City of America to City of America along street America to avenue America to the next street America to the next avenue America and no-one one will know where the hell they are.

Or just rename himself President America with Vice-President America at his side.

Perhaps you could rename Lake Superior to Lake Canada.

Why would they do that? What'll actually happen is that the entire world, including most of the US, will ignore this executive order and keep calling it Lake Ontario. Just as the entire world, including Google Maps, still calls the Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf of Mexico.

The other thing that'll happen is that people will remember that the president of the US tried to make them call it something else for ridiculously spiteful reasons, and laugh in derision. Constantly reminding the rest of the world how spiteful and dumb the leader of your country is. Do you think people laughing at that increases or decreases the soft power of the US around the world?
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8213 Posts
August 28 2026 11:32 GMT
#118602
On August 28 2026 15:46 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2026 08:11 Falling wrote:
Make him more mad and see how many things he renames to "America" at some point you will travel from City of America to City of America along street America to avenue America to the next street America to the next avenue America and no-one one will know where the hell they are.

Or just rename himself President America with Vice-President America at his side.

Perhaps you could rename Lake Superior to Lake Canada.

They are not a bunch of clowns, so they won’t.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6627 Posts
August 28 2026 11:56 GMT
#118603
On August 28 2026 16:04 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2026 15:46 oBlade wrote:
On August 28 2026 08:11 Falling wrote:
Make him more mad and see how many things he renames to "America" at some point you will travel from City of America to City of America along street America to avenue America to the next street America to the next avenue America and no-one one will know where the hell they are.

Or just rename himself President America with Vice-President America at his side.

Perhaps you could rename Lake Superior to Lake Canada.

Why would they do that? What'll actually happen is that the entire world, including most of the US, will ignore this executive order and keep calling it Lake Ontario.

The joke is that you would name the "Superior" one Canada to prove you're even better.

They may certainly call it Lake Ontario but for psychological reasons a great deal of people can't ignore the EO or basically anything Trump does.
On August 28 2026 16:04 Acrofales wrote:
Just as the entire world, including Google Maps, still calls the Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf of Mexico.

Nobody who hears Mt. McKinley or Denali has any ambiguity or confusion what it is. Neither with Gulf of America and Gulf of Mexico. But Google Maps? So? Whence this appeal to corporatism?

There's an inferiority complex going around when you get mad what other countries call things. France doesn't call the English Channel Canal d'Angleterre, they call it la Manche. This is irrespective of whether the countries share a common language. Sure Gulf of Mexico didn't mean it belongs to Mexico. So there's nothing to be offended by Gulf of America. Ontario just means big pretty lake? And America just means the continent Canada and the US are in. Big deal. Not exactly Lake USA. Only issue with the naming is Lake Superior should be the one to be Lake America since it's literally the largest making it the continent's defining body of water.

On August 28 2026 16:04 Acrofales wrote:
The other thing that'll happen is that people will remember that the president of the US tried to make them call it something else for ridiculously spiteful reasons, and laugh in derision. Constantly reminding the rest of the world how spiteful and dumb the leader of your country is. Do you think people laughing at that increases or decreases the soft power of the US around the world?

I think American citizens should be concerned about people "laughing" or the perception of people laughing "in derision" at the US if they want America to win the middle school yearbook competition. That is, not at all.

Announcing the government is going to call Lake Ontario Lake America triggers people who are primed for triggering, and it now has Canada talking about a lake instead of policy (a familiar refrain), driving Carney supporters closer to supporting his policies off a cliff, which seems to be what Carney wants. He needs to keep a razor thin majority in elections in 3 seats next week and one of the seats is in Quebec so they announced the negotiations blew up due to random French language stuff to shore up support there.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
August 28 2026 12:01 GMT
#118604
Oh give me a fucking break lmao
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6627 Posts
August 28 2026 12:09 GMT
#118605
On August 28 2026 21:01 WombaT wrote:
Oh give me a fucking break lmao

You know, I bet you've never heard of Lake Gichigami.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
August 28 2026 12:22 GMT
#118606
And?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3410 Posts
August 28 2026 12:23 GMT
#118607
Canada should rename it to Lake Epstein Files so Republicans pretend they don't know what it is.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6627 Posts
August 28 2026 12:27 GMT
#118608
On August 28 2026 21:23 LightSpectra wrote:
Canada should rename it to Lake Epstein Files so Republicans pretend they don't know what it is.

Apt. No matter how many thousands of fishing expeditions you take on it, you always manage to come up short.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3410 Posts
August 28 2026 12:29 GMT
#118609
When you promise to release documents that would ostensibly prove your innocence and then, when in power, literally break the law to not release them, that's a fishing expedition? What kinda fucked up fish are you looking for?
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10017 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-28 14:13:12
August 28 2026 14:12 GMT
#118610
There is absolutely no question any more as to whether Donald Trump has the mental capacity to run a country.
He obviously doesn't.
Still, republicans will republican.
Was that a crayon he used in that Tiktok video to cross out Lake Ontario and write Lake America on that map?
RIP Meatloaf <3
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3319 Posts
August 28 2026 14:45 GMT
#118611
On August 28 2026 23:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
There is absolutely no question any more as to whether Donald Trump has the mental capacity to run a country.
He obviously doesn't.
Still, republicans will republican.
Was that a crayon he used in that Tiktok video to cross out Lake Ontario and write Lake America on that map?

probably stole that crayon from the children's playroom when leaving the hospital. "suckers eheheh". then later when he reached into his pocket for the usual sharpy he pulled the crayon instead
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States829 Posts
August 28 2026 14:51 GMT
#118612
He currently has two presidential-charts posts up on his Truth Social. One has a presidential rankings chart with him as “The Greatest,” and Woodrow Wilson in the tier below as “great.” The other has Woodrow Wilson as a member of the 5 presidents who broke America, with Trump a member of the 5 who built America.

I had to visit the website to confirm that somebody wasn’t pranking me.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1844 Posts
August 28 2026 15:04 GMT
#118613
Uh, oh, I made a mistake to go and see this with my own eyes and scrolled past to the CNN poll asking Republicans who is the greatest republican president.

1. Trump - 53 %
2. Regan - 18 %
3. Lincoln - 8 %

This is a real, CNN poll.

What.
The.
Fuck.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3410 Posts
August 28 2026 15:21 GMT
#118614
Speaking of Reagan, I wonder if any Americans were killed in Trump's Iran War using gear that Reagan illegally sold them.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2605 Posts
August 28 2026 15:29 GMT
#118615
On August 28 2026 20:32 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2026 15:46 oBlade wrote:
On August 28 2026 08:11 Falling wrote:
Make him more mad and see how many things he renames to "America" at some point you will travel from City of America to City of America along street America to avenue America to the next street America to the next avenue America and no-one one will know where the hell they are.

Or just rename himself President America with Vice-President America at his side.

Perhaps you could rename Lake Superior to Lake Canada.

They are not a bunch of clowns, so they won’t.

Correct, we are not going to waste millions of dollars for some short term jab that makes no difference. We will just let Trump continue to be a moron and spend our money finding new markets and improving our infrastructure to process our own raw materials.

The crazy thing is that Trump is so worked up about the race deficit, but if you took away our oil that the US makes bank on refining we would be the ones with the deficit. The US is getting a fantastic deal from Canada. Getting rid of our oil taxes was the massive win for the US is first trade deal and has been great for both countries economies.

It’s sad that the stupid vote is winning in the US and they elected king stupid to rule them.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-28 15:54:27
August 28 2026 15:49 GMT
#118616
https://nationalpost.com/news/leblanc-welcomes-u-s-comments-on-french-language-protections-raises-possibility-of-renewed-trade-talks

If you do some digging, there is substantial documentation the USA has been complaining about french language laws in Quebec for years up to and including 2025. There is also substantial documentation the USA has been whining about it in 2026. The Americans are afraid Quebec unions will engage in illegal strike tactics and slow down electricity production. This gives the Quebec government enough plausible deniability when they shut off the electricity to New York. "hey man... what they are doing is illegal... what can i do?.. sorry New York."

The "sovereignty" party to which he is referring is the Parti Quebecois. They've run Quebec for 20 of the last 50 years and Quebec is still in Canada. The PQ is not realistically going to want to leave Canada and I dare say Quebec is the best place to live in Canada right now.. .and QUebecers know it. So ya, Quebec leaving Canada is not a threat even when the PQ wins the next election.

Lutnick is pissed off the Quebec Unions have some leverage in Canada/US trade negotiations. That is why he is tripping out. LOLOL.

Can we march Trump out here to talk about what a big Montreal Canadiens fan he is?

It is fucking hilarious watching Lutnick spaz out while Trump tells us how much he loves Quebec.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
August 28 2026 17:32 GMT
#118617
Keep sweeping, oBlade. Daddy Trump is always right.
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3410 Posts
August 28 2026 17:38 GMT
#118618
On August 28 2026 01:11 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2026 01:04 LightSpectra wrote:
I also didn't say RFK was the one in charge of beef, I said MAGA declared they were fine with dying of preventable illnesses when they confirmed RFK. You should try reading before opining.

And yet the USDA forced them to survive by ordering a recall of beef that missed an inspection, from a well-established trade partner of the US that has nobody dying of any beef-induced genocides.


Since you've acknowledged here the USDA's inspections saved lives, I assume you'll very obviously be against Trump's suggestion today that cattle ranchers should be able to bypass USDA inspections. No need to reply, we all know you're known for your consistency and you would look like a lunatic if you praised Trump for this.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10017 Posts
August 28 2026 17:41 GMT
#118619
On August 29 2026 02:38 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2026 01:11 oBlade wrote:
On August 28 2026 01:04 LightSpectra wrote:
I also didn't say RFK was the one in charge of beef, I said MAGA declared they were fine with dying of preventable illnesses when they confirmed RFK. You should try reading before opining.

And yet the USDA forced them to survive by ordering a recall of beef that missed an inspection, from a well-established trade partner of the US that has nobody dying of any beef-induced genocides.


Since you've acknowledged here the USDA's inspections saved lives, I assume you'll very obviously be against Trump's suggestion today that cattle ranchers should be able to bypass USDA inspections. No need to reply, we all know you're known for your consistency and you would look like a lunatic if you praised Trump for this.

If attacking Trump supporters on the basis of consistency was effective there wouldn't be any Trump supporters left by now.
It doesn't work, because there is nothing more important to a Trump supporter than supporting whatever Trump has said or done on that day.
RIP Meatloaf <3
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6627 Posts
August 28 2026 18:54 GMT
#118620
On August 29 2026 02:32 Falling wrote:
Keep sweeping, oBlade. Daddy Trump is always right.

First: I already said he should have done this to Lake Superior instead of Lake Ontario.

Second: "Daddy Trump" is unbefitting a serious adult. The only thing that is going to come of this is of all the icebreakers that work on the lake, 80% of their captains are going to be calling it "Lake America" on the radio and 20% are going to be calling it "Lake Ontario" on the radio. Get a letter addressed to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue if you want to take your frustration out on the person who did it.

Third: Your country renamed a street to šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street. You renamed Ryerson University to Toronto Metropolitan University. You renamed the Sir John A. Macdonald Parkway to Kichi Zībī Mīkan. That's your own business. I don't live on šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street or go to Toronto Metropolitan University so it doesn't affect me, it's not my business and I don't care. I don't go out of my way to care. If forced to interact with the facts, I might opine that they're self-evidently stupid decisions but otherwise don't let it taint my view of Canada, or the named things, or even the Canadian government on the whole. It does make me note there doesn't seem to be any categorical opposition to renaming.

Similarly, what the US government calls a lake cannot become the worry of people who just spammed "Respect our sovereignty." That's rich. I am not saying Trump is "right," I'm observing that it's pathetic to fall right for that bait. And I'm saying:
1) I don't care because I'm not from Lake Ontario and don't live or work near Lake Ontario 2) people strolling along the banks of the Rhine or anywhere else in the world should care even less... if they don't live in the US (or Canada) and aren't citizens, their emotions are being manufactured (assuming there is such a group) 3) the "ick" or risibility of said people is definitely never going to affect or move me, why would it.

I don't mind talking about lakes and names as everything else is going swimmingly. For example Goldman Sachs just said energy out of Hormuz is at 2/3 prewar levels. Iran's dangerous Strait-closing mines turned out to be a 200 some odd bunch of suspicious looking trash bags and mine-shaped debris. DHS arrested just 1,300 people in VA and MD over two weeks. Important locations because VA and MD are state and municipally governed quite blue, and unfortunately have chosen the route of sanctuary policies, meaning the federal government can't get cooperation to get criminals from their custody. So the sanctuary jurisdictions let them out to walk among us.

So yeah this week the lake jumps out as something I'd do differently, Lake Superior instead of Ontario. But people 70% of whose exports go to the US, maybe they shouldn't get distracted by it. Other things look more important at the moment. Again my view is not particularly that he is "right." It's that he's the president and can do that.
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