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Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2604 Posts
September 01 2026 14:39 GMT
#118701
I think it’s just being pointed out that at least there is some short term gains for people who vote for him. Trump does shit that’s bad for the country, short and long term. Bad for his base, short and long term. And then just plain stupid, bad short and long term. (Not just the name changes but reflection pool and 100 others).

Dude is spectacularly bad at his job, even compared globally.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8213 Posts
September 01 2026 14:43 GMT
#118702
Trump saying the position of the US over the Falklands is under review is absolutely hilarious. It has to be the dumbest and most baseless territorial dispute in the world.

Trump and Milei, clowns of the same circus.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2604 Posts
September 01 2026 14:46 GMT
#118703
What allies has he not baselessly and pointless attacked yet?

His next book could be called how to get personally rich well turning friends and allies into enemies.

Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10016 Posts
September 01 2026 14:49 GMT
#118704
On September 01 2026 23:46 Billyboy wrote:
What allies has he not baselessly and pointless attacked yet?

His next book could be called how to get personally rich well turning friends and allies into enemies.



Its obviously some leverage/negotiation strategy. All Trump knows how to do to negotiate is threaten.
He fails to see that we also have plenty of leverage over America, and if we decided that their military in the middle east is not welcome on our military bases and will be kicked out in 6 hours time it would be far, far worse for him than anything he could do to us in the Falklands.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2604 Posts
September 01 2026 15:03 GMT
#118705
On September 01 2026 23:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2026 23:46 Billyboy wrote:
What allies has he not baselessly and pointless attacked yet?

His next book could be called how to get personally rich well turning friends and allies into enemies.



Its obviously some leverage/negotiation strategy. All Trump knows how to do to negotiate is threaten.
He fails to see that we also have plenty of leverage over America, and if we decided that their military in the middle east is not welcome on our military bases and will be kicked out in 6 hours time it would be far, far worse for him than anything he could do to us in the Falklands.

Yes, and that’s my point. It’s really fucking objectively stupid. If he presented these “strategies” at even any business meeting the adults in the room would just fire him for not understanding anything about negotiation. I doubt he would even make it out of a pitch meeting.

But for some reason, I’m guessing them never actually being a part of any business to business negotiation, think this is a good strategy because they get to feel macho before they get the worst deal the other side is willing to tolerate?

It makes no sense that people can see his two page playbook, watch it never work in real time, over and over, and still think he’s a master negotiator
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2604 Posts
September 01 2026 15:21 GMT
#118706
So Max Miller is getting support from Mike Johnson and the Republican Party. Always good to see those family and Christian values in play.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1842 Posts
September 01 2026 16:20 GMT
#118707
For me the most fascinating aspect is what do all these "semi-serious" career politician and public servant people have running through their heads while they are retroactively thinking up ways how they were always for Argentina's claim because ...

Each and every one of them knows that this is Trump being buddies with Milei while he doesn't like the new UK PM because he's young and (relatively) popular, and yet tomorrow they will have to go on the news and just think up "rational" explanations as to why this is in US national interest.

There really is no human beings on the planet that I have less respect then those guys, guys like Rubio and Vance especially, being willing to prostitute yourself like that is quite a feat.

I guess being a politician self selects for being able to do something like that, but god damn son.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4267 Posts
September 01 2026 16:30 GMT
#118708
On September 01 2026 23:46 Billyboy wrote:
What allies has he not baselessly and pointless attacked yet?

His next book could be called how to get personally rich well turning friends and allies into enemies.



He's basically Michael Scott pretending to learn how to negotiate. Like immediately not wanting to hear the first offer and insiting ot hear the second offer.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2604 Posts
September 01 2026 16:49 GMT
#118709
On September 02 2026 01:30 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2026 23:46 Billyboy wrote:
What allies has he not baselessly and pointless attacked yet?

His next book could be called how to get personally rich well turning friends and allies into enemies.



He's basically Michael Scott pretending to learn how to negotiate. Like immediately not wanting to hear the first offer and insiting ot hear the second offer.

It’s embarrassingly bad. He must be a nightmare to work for if you actually care about doing a good job for the country.
Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France2048 Posts
September 01 2026 18:05 GMT
#118710
On September 02 2026 01:20 Jankisa wrote:
For me the most fascinating aspect is what do all these "semi-serious" career politician and public servant people have running through their heads while they are retroactively thinking up ways how they were always for Argentina's claim because ...

Each and every one of them knows that this is Trump being buddies with Milei while he doesn't like the new UK PM because he's young and (relatively) popular, and yet tomorrow they will have to go on the news and just think up "rational" explanations as to why this is in US national interest.

There really is no human beings on the planet that I have less respect then those guys, guys like Rubio and Vance especially, being willing to prostitute yourself like that is quite a feat.

I guess being a politician self selects for being able to do something like that, but god damn son.


And clowns like oblade are patiently waiting for the official party line for why changing the US's position on the Falklands is actually a good thing. 10 paragraph unhinged post incoming.
geiko.813 (EU)
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3407 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-09-01 18:21:38
September 01 2026 18:20 GMT
#118711
The Falklands had a referendum in 2013 on the question "Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" and literally three (3) people voted No.

Okay but maybe they're squatters on someone else's land. You know, like the 97% of Argentinians in Argentina that aren't indigenous.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States829 Posts
September 01 2026 18:46 GMT
#118712
So did the BBC reporter ask this question on the Falkland Islands out of the blue, or did Trump mention it in a speech or an answer on the UK prior to the BBC follow-up? Trump's particular brand of insanity has the flavor of always answering "Of course I'm reviewing it" if the question is nuclear non-proliferation, the Galapagos Islands, the name of a geographical feature, or anything he's never thought about and might not really know.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22675 Posts
September 01 2026 19:14 GMT
#118713
On September 02 2026 01:30 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2026 23:46 Billyboy wrote:
What allies has he not baselessly and pointless attacked yet?

His next book could be called how to get personally rich well turning friends and allies into enemies.



He's basically Michael Scott pretending to learn how to negotiate. Like immediately not wanting to hear the first offer and insiting ot hear the second offer.
That is an insult to Michael Scott who is actually a brilliant, but unconventional, salesmen. Trump is just a complete idiot.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3407 Posts
September 01 2026 19:39 GMT
#118714
Cubans living in Florida are being deported to Africa: https://www.tampabay.com/news/2026/08/31/cuban-africa-deportation-ice-tampa/
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44397 Posts
September 01 2026 19:52 GMT
#118715
On September 01 2026 23:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2026 23:46 Billyboy wrote:
What allies has he not baselessly and pointless attacked yet?

His next book could be called how to get personally rich well turning friends and allies into enemies.



Its obviously some leverage/negotiation strategy. All Trump knows how to do to negotiate is threaten.
He fails to see that we also have plenty of leverage over America, and if we decided that their military in the middle east is not welcome on our military bases and will be kicked out in 6 hours time it would be far, far worse for him than anything he could do to us in the Falklands.

They're in the middle of the ocean, far outside the territorial waters of anyone, and are basically unassailable. We have a base on the ground there, nobody else does, and in a competition of who sinks last recent events in the Middle East have shown a very strong advantage to the guy with his feet on solid ground. Presumably he thinks that the UK can only hold them due to US protection because that's his default position on everything but there is an RAF base there with a squadron of typhoons.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44397 Posts
September 01 2026 20:08 GMT
#118716
On September 02 2026 03:20 LightSpectra wrote:
The Falklands had a referendum in 2013 on the question "Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" and literally three (3) people voted No.

Okay but maybe they're squatters on someone else's land. You know, like the 97% of Argentinians in Argentina that aren't indigenous.

This too.

On this one Argentina is the colonial European state that wiped out all the native inhabitants and is now seeking to expand their land including the forced ethnic cleansing of more indigenous populations who have made it clear that they don't want to be ruled by an alien land and culture from far across the sea that don't speak their language or follow their traditions. Whereas Britain on this one finds itself in the unusual position of being a first people who are living under threat of colonial invasion.

And Argentina's justification for this colonial effort is literal colonialism, they're arguing that they deserve the prerogatives that their genocidal Spanish ancestors were gifted by the Pope. 18th Century Spain claimed that South America belonged to them and that anyone living there was their property and Argentina argue that as the offspring of that genocidal mission they shouldn't have to stop the family hobby. Spain could claim the Falklands with just as much justification while Portugal would have to settle for the entire eastern hemisphere.

It was an artificial conflict generated by a military dictator to manufacture a nationalist popularity surge after he mismanaged the country and somehow it outlived that dictator. And now indoctrinated Argentinians are apparently taking it seriously, even though Britain did them a favour by killing their occupiers, sinking their ships, and in doing so toppling their shitty government.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6622 Posts
September 01 2026 20:23 GMT
#118717
On September 02 2026 03:05 Geiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2026 01:20 Jankisa wrote:
For me the most fascinating aspect is what do all these "semi-serious" career politician and public servant people have running through their heads while they are retroactively thinking up ways how they were always for Argentina's claim because ...

Each and every one of them knows that this is Trump being buddies with Milei while he doesn't like the new UK PM because he's young and (relatively) popular, and yet tomorrow they will have to go on the news and just think up "rational" explanations as to why this is in US national interest.

There really is no human beings on the planet that I have less respect then those guys, guys like Rubio and Vance especially, being willing to prostitute yourself like that is quite a feat.

I guess being a politician self selects for being able to do something like that, but god damn son.


And clowns like oblade are patiently waiting for the official party line for why changing the US's position on the Falklands is actually a good thing. 10 paragraph unhinged post incoming.

Get a life with this, buddy.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22675 Posts
September 01 2026 20:56 GMT
#118718
On September 02 2026 04:39 LightSpectra wrote:
Cubans living in Florida are being deported to Africa: https://www.tampabay.com/news/2026/08/31/cuban-africa-deportation-ice-tampa/
The cruelty is the point.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2604 Posts
September 01 2026 21:21 GMT
#118719
Another point on how terrible of a negotiator Trump is, before our last election our conservatives were killing it. Then Trump decided to start “trolling” Canada. All the sudden Carney was standing up for Canada and had a rallying cry of joining together against Trump. Pierre didn’t want to upset the maple MAGA and stayed quiet.

Trump made it so he could go up against someone whose political future gets brighter the more he fights with Trump. And can only take a deal that Canada wins without tanking his own personal brand. Instead of someone who was scared to fight with Trump and who making deals would have seemed like a win, even not great ones.

What a master strategist Trump is.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2604 Posts
September 01 2026 21:41 GMT
#118720
On September 02 2026 05:56 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2026 04:39 LightSpectra wrote:
Cubans living in Florida are being deported to Africa: https://www.tampabay.com/news/2026/08/31/cuban-africa-deportation-ice-tampa/
The cruelty is the point.

Also, it’s way more expensive. Republicans love fiscal responsibility.
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