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On May 12 2026 01:25 LightSpectra wrote:
The "deep state" is nothing more than a conspiracy theory propagated by Republicans to explain why Republicans are in charge but everything still sucks for their non-multimillionaire voters.
If you're talking about assassins or whatever that right-wing billionaires could potentially hire, I mean I guess that's within the realm of possibility, but I'm not really seeing any pressing reason why they'd want to off a retired Trump? He already can barely string a coherent sentence together, what's he gonna spill to the world he hasn't already by falsely promising to release the Epstein files and then accidentally galvanizing Congress into forcing a vote on it?
On the first part, we are in absolute agreement, I just don't feel like inventing more language, we can call it "a shadowy loosely organized cabal of extremely rich and powerful people who are always betting on both sides of the political spectrum".
I personally think that, given the amount of corruption that we can see and is completely out in the open, the bottom part of the iceberg can't be insignificant, and a bitter Trump that is fading into irrelevancy (what a beautiful fantasy) might spill the beans on some really sinister shit, so I wouldn't count it out.
What it could be, oh, I don't know, the extent of data exfiltration that was done by DOGE would be the one of them, amounts of spying USA does on it's allies via Palantir and similar companies, what active measures were taken and when when it comes to undermining elections and democracies across the world, there's plenty of beans to spill.
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On May 12 2026 02:33 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2026 02:09 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 12 2026 01:27 Sermokala wrote:On May 11 2026 04:37 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 11 2026 04:28 Sermokala wrote:On May 11 2026 03:21 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 11 2026 03:01 LightSpectra wrote:On May 11 2026 02:32 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 11 2026 01:58 LightSpectra wrote:On May 11 2026 01:55 GreenHorizons wrote:
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I believe they prefer to be called "Democrats". I'll have to remember that next time someone says Democrats are right-wing. Our resident tankie says they're leftists. Democrats objectively are right-wing, that's part of why they habitually help right-wing governments, and their pinnacle accomplishment in our lives is passing legislation to the right of Nixon. The same Nixon that used to be considered the threshold for unacceptable criminality by the president until Democrats and their relentless hubris literally helped Trump win. Everyone here knows and most have basically said that the Democrat party is right-wing by any metric but their own (leaning heavily on self-referential American exceptionalism). So Democrats are "a group of leftists" but simultaneously "objectively are right-wing"? Well, "a group of leftists" is something Democrats are called sometimes (frequently in a pejorative manner). Additionally, the Democrat party is objectively right-wing. It's unfortunate those observations confused you. That's the ratchet effect working in real time. They can't be both right wing and left wing, and that has nothing to do with the ratchet effect. + Show Spoiler +Snipping out eight words for incomprehensible misunderstanding of someone elses post is pretty on brand though. You're correct that the Democrat party isn't left-wing. People disagreeing with that observation are real time examples of the ratchet effect. + Show Spoiler +Thats not what I'm saying and thats again not what the ratchet effect is. Simply saying words with complex meanings behind them isn't a strong argument for anything. There are two relevent parties, they cannot both be right wing, + Show Spoiler + thats not how any of this works. They can be right wing of you, but thats just your perspective.
If you claim to be left wing but all you ever do is advocate for and push for the right to win what does that make you? They obviously can be. If Democrats imploded and Republicans split into MAGA and super-MAGA that wouldn't make MAGA a left-wing party in any meaningful way. Sorta like how the bipartisan Hamster Wheel preventing any actual left-wing party from gaining power doesn't make a right-wing party left-wing. You're also welcome to disagree with Squirrel since they also recognize the Democrat party is a right-wing party, since you likely don't have any particular personal animosity towards them, you may be more likely to have a fruitful discussion about it. + Show Spoiler +Have you ever seen a bird with two right wings GH? If republicans spit into MAGA and super MAGA then the MAGA party would be more left wing than the super MAGA party.
You're the one thats trying to hide your bias behind concepts that are so tired and overused by you that you've compeltly lost the plot on what a bird is. I'm not replying to squirll because hes bringing actual value and his perspective to the thread + Show Spoiler +, you're just spouting off inside baseball to avoid having to put thoughts into words.
Well...
On May 12 2026 02:33 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2026 01:49 LightSpectra wrote:
Do you ever get bored of interrupting conversations to copy/paste the "mock and gawk" slop or is this actually your only hobby? Its projection, He doesn't want other people to have actual conversations + Show Spoiler + he just wants to mock and gawk at left people in the thread. He can't take other peoples issues with what he says as being legitmate so he has to assert that they must be personal attacks.
Notice how he always claims that we mock and gawk right wingers when we mock and gawk at him just as much.
I think you've confused yourself.
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On May 12 2026 01:49 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2026 00:45 Jankisa wrote:On May 12 2026 00:16 Gorsameth wrote:On May 11 2026 23:02 Silvanel wrote:In a not-so-surprising move, a former Polish justice minister accused of stealing millions and spying on political opponents ends up in the US: https://www.politico.eu/article/ex-poland-justice-minister-ziobro-flees-us-hungary-orban-magyar-tusk-trump/He was previously sheltering in Hungary, but after Orban lost the elections, he was at risk of being extradited. And apparently Trump himself made the decision to grant him entry. Let's see how this progresses, but I doubt there will be some serious drama over it, as he is not worth tearing down relations with the US. Wonder if Trump would let him ride along when he heads to Russia in 2 years... This is, unfortunately, wishful thinking. USA won't allow itself to take the PR hit of Trump defecting to Russia, I'm not a big believer in deep state or similar shit, but in the extremely unlikely scenario where Trump doesn't run or runs and loses elections, concedes and does a peaceful transfer of power he's either going to have to be arrested as he's leaving the inauguration or suffer from a mysterious illness before he can activate his "retirement plan". The extremely unlikely scenario where Trump doesn't run. The extremely unlikely scenario where Trump runs and loses. That is just fascinating. What are you willing to bet that Trump will "run" in 2028?
I love how you skipped the later part of the "runs and loses", I mean, it's not a big sentence, you could have kept that in, but I guess that would give your fake "fascination" with what I wrote less of an oomph.
I don't bet, however, if Trump doesn't move on to the "thinks hes still married to Marla Maples" phase of his dementia and is still able to walk and speak (relatively for him) coherently he will absolutely run.
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On May 12 2026 02:53 Falling wrote:
There is no meaningful difference in the uniparty: Genocide Joe and Bomber Harris would have also given a free pass to Netanyahu in Gaza and were gearing for war in Iran, the second stage of Obama's war directives. "Free pass" goes too far. The Biden administration unilaterally paused the sales of bombs (remember the backlash from Republicans and Netanyahu?). Biden did the same to bulldozers that Israel had bought. Some of these holds lasted all the way until Trump took office, and some of them were eventually relaxed under bipartisan pressure.
It is said the uniparty made much spectacle over expanding healthcare coverage. But they were all of them deceived, for behind the public stunts, the uniparty agreed healthcare coverage should not expand and did not pass it in the 70 days one 'side' of the uniparty had a 'supermajority'. And ever since then the uniparty has been looking to remove the expanded healthcare coverage they did not pass. You're more right than wrong here. The Democratic supermajority, in the short time it existed in the Obama years (Ted Kennedy illness and death death, Scott Brown (R) Senate win), could only get the votes for certain compromise legislation. This was also a very different kind of Democratic party coalition in 2009, with lots of pro-life and moderate pro-business voices. Some lost their seats.
But Obamacare did expand coverage, though not to the extent promised. 8-9% drops in uncovered, or 20 million. Healthcare coverage expanded, and it's wrong to say "the uniparty agreed healthcare coverage should not expand." It oversold and underdelivered.
Democrats may not be terribly left wing relative to some European democracies, but they do represent the left in American politics. And if, according to you, America cannot even muster a single left wing party but has instead spawned two right wing parties... that does not speak very well of an expanding social consciousness to overthrow the bourgeois and establish a socialist paradise. But do continue to mock and gawk the unwashed and unenlightened proles in this thread. The Democratic party is too far right when looking at European norms, but definitely left-wing compared to the Republican party. The people denying this and fussing are just revealing frustrations about taking the party in a direction they want, and what kinds of compromises the Democratic party is making today. These include the compromises to try to win elections with the voter base they have, rather than the one they wished they had, and the more seedy compromises for donor cash and public support.
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On May 12 2026 03:36 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2026 01:25 LightSpectra wrote:
The "deep state" is nothing more than a conspiracy theory propagated by Republicans to explain why Republicans are in charge but everything still sucks for their non-multimillionaire voters.
If you're talking about assassins or whatever that right-wing billionaires could potentially hire, I mean I guess that's within the realm of possibility, but I'm not really seeing any pressing reason why they'd want to off a retired Trump? He already can barely string a coherent sentence together, what's he gonna spill to the world he hasn't already by falsely promising to release the Epstein files and then accidentally galvanizing Congress into forcing a vote on it? On the first part, we are in absolute agreement, I just don't feel like inventing more language, we can call it "a shadowy loosely organized cabal of extremely rich and powerful people who are always betting on both sides of the political spectrum". I personally think that, given the amount of corruption that we can see and is completely out in the open, the bottom part of the iceberg can't be insignificant, and a bitter Trump that is fading into irrelevancy (what a beautiful fantasy) might spill the beans on some really sinister shit, so I wouldn't count it out. What it could be, oh, I don't know, the extent of data exfiltration that was done by DOGE would be the one of them, amounts of spying USA does on it's allies via Palantir and similar companies, what active measures were taken and when when it comes to undermining elections and democracies across the world, there's plenty of beans to spill.
Unironically all that surveillance made everything unsafer because it's not controlled by trustworthy instances. It just goes to the highest bidder because it's not cheap to use. And they're more likely to use it for nefarious purposes.
The best Europe can do is shut those technologies out and leave Americans to deal with that problem solo once it's used against regime critics because the regime gradually keeps stripping away their liberties. Unfortunate but necessary.
Exporting problems shouldn't be a business model.
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On May 12 2026 02:53 Falling wrote:There is no meaningful difference in the uniparty + Show Spoiler +: Genocide Joe and Bomber Harris would have also given a free pass to Netanyahu in Gaza and were gearing for war in Iran, the second stage of Obama's war directives.
It is said the uniparty made much spectacle over expanding healthcare coverage. But they were all of them deceived, for behind the public stunts, the uniparty agreed healthcare coverage should not expand and did not pass it in the 70 days one 'side' of the uniparty had a 'supermajority'. And ever since then the uniparty has been looking to remove the expanded healthcare coverage they did not pass.
Democrats may not be terribly left wing relative to some European democracies, but they do represent the left in American politics. And if, according to you, America cannot even muster a single left wing party but has instead spawned two right wing parties... that does not speak very well of an expanding social consciousness to overthrow the bourgeois and establish a socialist paradise. + Show Spoiler +But do continue to mock and gawk the unwashed and unenlightened proles in this thread.
Maybe we split the difference and call them the "left-wing of the uniparty"? Maybe not?
Anyway, 90%+ of people including voters from both parties overwhelmingly want pretty radical wealth redistribution.
The core problem basically being stuck on the Hamster Wheel.
The 90%+ that wants that radical wealth redistribution (or similar majorities with other things) can't muster a party that represents their interest in part because US democracy is (and has been since inception) designed to prevent it.
Part of the ratchet effect is convincing people like yourself that we can't have something 90%+ of us support because we want something unreasonable instead of the ~10% having more power/leverage to get/keep it the way they prefer.
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On May 12 2026 04:41 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2026 02:53 Falling wrote:There is no meaningful difference in the uniparty + Show Spoiler +: Genocide Joe and Bomber Harris would have also given a free pass to Netanyahu in Gaza and were gearing for war in Iran, the second stage of Obama's war directives.
It is said the uniparty made much spectacle over expanding healthcare coverage. But they were all of them deceived, for behind the public stunts, the uniparty agreed healthcare coverage should not expand and did not pass it in the 70 days one 'side' of the uniparty had a 'supermajority'. And ever since then the uniparty has been looking to remove the expanded healthcare coverage they did not pass.
Democrats may not be terribly left wing relative to some European democracies, but they do represent the left in American politics. And if, according to you, America cannot even muster a single left wing party but has instead spawned two right wing parties... that does not speak very well of an expanding social consciousness to overthrow the bourgeois and establish a socialist paradise. + Show Spoiler +But do continue to mock and gawk the unwashed and unenlightened proles in this thread. Maybe we split the difference and call them the "left-wing of the uniparty"? Maybe not? Anyway, 90%+ of people including voters from both parties overwhelmingly want pretty radical wealth redistribution.The core problem basically being stuck on the Hamster Wheel. The 90%+ that wants that radical wealth redistribution (or similar majorities with other things) can't muster a party that represents their interest in part because US democracy is (and has been since inception) designed to prevent it. Part of the ratchet effect is convincing people like yourself that we can't have something 90%+ of us support because we want something unreasonable instead of the ~10% having more power/leverage to get/keep it the way they prefer.
Redistribution was like stage 1 prevention, we're at stage 2, 3 or even 4, where it's about stopping money from buying any kind of power these guys want. And that's not about superyachts, it's about not allowing a bunch of super rich to play god in societies because they bought out a bunch of dudes in the government.
Happens even here. Goes well for a while, not forever.
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On May 12 2026 05:50 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2026 04:41 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 12 2026 02:53 Falling wrote:There is no meaningful difference in the uniparty + Show Spoiler +: Genocide Joe and Bomber Harris would have also given a free pass to Netanyahu in Gaza and were gearing for war in Iran, the second stage of Obama's war directives.
It is said the uniparty made much spectacle over expanding healthcare coverage. But they were all of them deceived, for behind the public stunts, the uniparty agreed healthcare coverage should not expand and did not pass it in the 70 days one 'side' of the uniparty had a 'supermajority'. And ever since then the uniparty has been looking to remove the expanded healthcare coverage they did not pass.
Democrats may not be terribly left wing relative to some European democracies, but they do represent the left in American politics. And if, according to you, America cannot even muster a single left wing party but has instead spawned two right wing parties... that does not speak very well of an expanding social consciousness to overthrow the bourgeois and establish a socialist paradise. + Show Spoiler +But do continue to mock and gawk the unwashed and unenlightened proles in this thread. Maybe we split the difference and call them the "left-wing of the uniparty"? Maybe not? Anyway, 90%+ of people including voters from both parties overwhelmingly want pretty radical wealth redistribution.The core problem basically being stuck on the Hamster Wheel. The 90%+ that wants that radical wealth redistribution (or similar majorities with other things) can't muster a party that represents their interest in part because US democracy is (and has been since inception) designed to prevent it. Part of the ratchet effect is convincing people like yourself that we can't have something 90%+ of us support because we want something unreasonable instead of the ~10% having more power/leverage to get/keep it the way they prefer. Redistribution was like stage 1 prevention, we're at stage 2, 3 or even 4, where it's about stopping money from buying any kind of power these guys want. And that's not about superyachts, it's about not allowing a bunch of super rich to play god in societies because they bought out a bunch of dudes in the government. Happens even here. Goes well for a while, not forever.
No need to buy the government when you can buy Twitter. Or TikTok. Or already own whatsfacegram.
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Trump at 10:00 am “I can’t think of anybody in history that deserves the noble peace prize more than me. Nobody else settles wars.”
Iran at 10:05 am “this idiot actually started a war with us, lost it, and fools everyone by saying he settled it. It’s crazy.”
Now everybody is a lie because only morons believe Trump or think he’s good at anything let alone negotiating. But what a fucking embarrassment he is that Iran keeps dominating on social media. I can’t imagine another president getting by so constantly humiliated. Anyone who thought this guy was competent should be ashamed. Anyone who still does is also a moron.
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On May 12 2026 03:42 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2026 02:33 Sermokala wrote:On May 12 2026 02:09 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 12 2026 01:27 Sermokala wrote:On May 11 2026 04:37 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 11 2026 04:28 Sermokala wrote:On May 11 2026 03:21 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 11 2026 03:01 LightSpectra wrote:On May 11 2026 02:32 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 11 2026 01:58 LightSpectra wrote:
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I'll have to remember that next time someone says Democrats are right-wing. Our resident tankie says they're leftists. Democrats objectively are right-wing, that's part of why they habitually help right-wing governments, and their pinnacle accomplishment in our lives is passing legislation to the right of Nixon. The same Nixon that used to be considered the threshold for unacceptable criminality by the president until Democrats and their relentless hubris literally helped Trump win. Everyone here knows and most have basically said that the Democrat party is right-wing by any metric but their own (leaning heavily on self-referential American exceptionalism). So Democrats are "a group of leftists" but simultaneously "objectively are right-wing"? Well, "a group of leftists" is something Democrats are called sometimes (frequently in a pejorative manner). Additionally, the Democrat party is objectively right-wing. It's unfortunate those observations confused you. That's the ratchet effect working in real time. They can't be both right wing and left wing, and that has nothing to do with the ratchet effect. + Show Spoiler +Snipping out eight words for incomprehensible misunderstanding of someone elses post is pretty on brand though. You're correct that the Democrat party isn't left-wing. People disagreeing with that observation are real time examples of the ratchet effect. + Show Spoiler +Thats not what I'm saying and thats again not what the ratchet effect is. Simply saying words with complex meanings behind them isn't a strong argument for anything. There are two relevent parties, they cannot both be right wing, + Show Spoiler + thats not how any of this works. They can be right wing of you, but thats just your perspective.
If you claim to be left wing but all you ever do is advocate for and push for the right to win what does that make you? They obviously can be. If Democrats imploded and Republicans split into MAGA and super-MAGA that wouldn't make MAGA a left-wing party in any meaningful way. Sorta like how the bipartisan Hamster Wheel preventing any actual left-wing party from gaining power doesn't make a right-wing party left-wing. You're also welcome to disagree with Squirrel since they also recognize the Democrat party is a right-wing party, since you likely don't have any particular personal animosity towards them, you may be more likely to have a fruitful discussion about it. + Show Spoiler +Have you ever seen a bird with two right wings GH? If republicans spit into MAGA and super MAGA then the MAGA party would be more left wing than the super MAGA party.
You're the one thats trying to hide your bias behind concepts that are so tired and overused by you that you've compeltly lost the plot on what a bird is. I'm not replying to squirll because hes bringing actual value and his perspective to the thread + Show Spoiler +, you're just spouting off inside baseball to avoid having to put thoughts into words. Well... Show nested quote +On May 12 2026 02:33 Sermokala wrote:On May 12 2026 01:49 LightSpectra wrote:
Do you ever get bored of interrupting conversations to copy/paste the "mock and gawk" slop or is this actually your only hobby? Its projection, He doesn't want other people to have actual conversations + Show Spoiler + he just wants to mock and gawk at left people in the thread. He can't take other peoples issues with what he says as being legitmate so he has to assert that they must be personal attacks.
Notice how he always claims that we mock and gawk right wingers when we mock and gawk at him just as much. I think you've confused yourself.
No I didn't. You sniping peoples posts removes context and you moving posts out of order is there for you to attempt to confuse other people.
Removing Squirl's post to him just thinking the democratic party is right-wing removes the conversation that he was adding to the thread. That was the smallest part of this post and it was responded to.
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It looks like Trump's war still isn't going as he had planned, despite him repeatedly declaring victory and asserting that Iran is so completely destroyed that they have no more cards to play. Trump is still floundering with his Iran negotiations, and he may resume attacking the region out of frustration:
US President Donald Trump has said the ceasefire with Iran is “on life support” after rejecting Tehran’s latest proposal to end the conflict, calling it “totally unacceptable”. ... President Trump is reportedly becoming exasperated with US-Iran peace talks and is considering new military operations. ... Iran’s Foreign Ministry spokesman, Esmaeil Baghaei, said the US has made “unreasonable demands” to end the war, while the country’s parliament speaker, Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, says Tehran is ready to respond to “any aggression”, which will leave the US “surprised”. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/5/12/iran-war-live-trump-slams-iranian-proposal-as-ceasefire-hangs-by-a-thread
Donald Trump has dismissed Iran’s latest peace proposals as stupid and denied he was under any domestic pressure to reach a deal. ... Trump’s latest comments came after oil prices jumped again when Iran said there would be no further talks about ending the blockade of the strait of Hormuz unless he accepted its terms. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/11/trump-news-latest-updates-today
President Donald Trump has grown increasingly frustrated with how the Iranians are handling negotiations to end the war, and some Trump aides say that he is now more seriously considering a resumption of major combat operations than he has in recent weeks. ... A former State Department negotiator told CNN on Monday it is now “much tougher” to get a deal with Iran than it was when he participated in negotiating the 2015 nuclear accord between Tehran and major world powers. Alan Eyre, a key Farsi-speaking member of President Barack Obama’s negotiating team for the Iran nuclear deal, told CNN’s Omar Jimenez that President Donald Trump’s accusations of Iranian backtracking reflect “either miscommunication or fabrication.” https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/11/world/live-news/iran-war-proposal-trump?post-id=cmp1vdd1a00003b6ryoklx7w0
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On May 12 2026 14:45 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2026 03:42 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 12 2026 02:33 Sermokala wrote:On May 12 2026 02:09 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 12 2026 01:27 Sermokala wrote:On May 11 2026 04:37 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 11 2026 04:28 Sermokala wrote:On May 11 2026 03:21 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 11 2026 03:01 LightSpectra wrote:On May 11 2026 02:32 GreenHorizons wrote:
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Democrats objectively are right-wing, that's part of why they habitually help right-wing governments, and their pinnacle accomplishment in our lives is passing legislation to the right of Nixon. The same Nixon that used to be considered the threshold for unacceptable criminality by the president until Democrats and their relentless hubris literally helped Trump win.
Everyone here knows and most have basically said that the Democrat party is right-wing by any metric but their own (leaning heavily on self-referential American exceptionalism).
So Democrats are "a group of leftists" but simultaneously "objectively are right-wing"? Well, "a group of leftists" is something Democrats are called sometimes (frequently in a pejorative manner). Additionally, the Democrat party is objectively right-wing. It's unfortunate those observations confused you. That's the ratchet effect working in real time. They can't be both right wing and left wing, and that has nothing to do with the ratchet effect. + Show Spoiler +Snipping out eight words for incomprehensible misunderstanding of someone elses post is pretty on brand though. You're correct that the Democrat party isn't left-wing. People disagreeing with that observation are real time examples of the ratchet effect. + Show Spoiler +Thats not what I'm saying and thats again not what the ratchet effect is. Simply saying words with complex meanings behind them isn't a strong argument for anything. There are two relevent parties, they cannot both be right wing, + Show Spoiler + thats not how any of this works. They can be right wing of you, but thats just your perspective.
If you claim to be left wing but all you ever do is advocate for and push for the right to win what does that make you? They obviously can be. If Democrats imploded and Republicans split into MAGA and super-MAGA that wouldn't make MAGA a left-wing party in any meaningful way. Sorta like how the bipartisan Hamster Wheel preventing any actual left-wing party from gaining power doesn't make a right-wing party left-wing. You're also welcome to disagree with Squirrel since they also recognize the Democrat party is a right-wing party, since you likely don't have any particular personal animosity towards them, you may be more likely to have a fruitful discussion about it. + Show Spoiler +Have you ever seen a bird with two right wings GH? If republicans spit into MAGA and super MAGA then the MAGA party would be more left wing than the super MAGA party.
You're the one thats trying to hide your bias behind concepts that are so tired and overused by you that you've compeltly lost the plot on what a bird is. I'm not replying to squirll because hes bringing actual value and his perspective to the thread + Show Spoiler +, you're just spouting off inside baseball to avoid having to put thoughts into words. Well... On May 12 2026 02:33 Sermokala wrote:On May 12 2026 01:49 LightSpectra wrote:
Do you ever get bored of interrupting conversations to copy/paste the "mock and gawk" slop or is this actually your only hobby? Its projection, He doesn't want other people to have actual conversations + Show Spoiler + he just wants to mock and gawk at left people in the thread. He can't take other peoples issues with what he says as being legitmate so he has to assert that they must be personal attacks.
Notice how he always claims that we mock and gawk right wingers when we mock and gawk at him just as much. I think you've confused yourself. + Show Spoiler +No I didn't. You sniping peoples posts removes context and you moving posts out of order is there for you to attempt to confuse other people. + Show Spoiler +Removing Squirl's post to him just thinking the democratic party is right-wing removes the conversation that he was adding to the thread. That was the smallest part of this post and it was responded to.
What are you talking about "moving posts out of order"? I think you confused yourself again.
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It sure looks like open war is back on the menu, even tho these ceasefire has been mostly a ceasefire on paper, as there are and were reports of fire being exchanged between Iran and US ships.
Sure seems great, doesn't it.
The Pentagon has been caught vastly underestimating the cost of war ($25 B so far is honestly an insult to intelligence), under reporting the damage done to US assets (WaPo satallite investigation) and presenting a false picture of what damage it has done so far to Iran's capabilities (Summary) .
The last "deal" outline that came out was basically JCPOA with slightly changed numbers, and even that was shoot down by Iranians, because why wouldn't it be.
So, to throw out a prediction, the president of peace will spend the rest of the week ramping up the rhetoric, likely throw out a genocidal ultimatum around Friday before the markets closed, saying that they have until Monday to sign whatever and then kick the can down the road again, or attack, in both cases 15 minutes before the markets open there will be trades that will make his friends and him even more money.
The age of extraction with lethal consequences goes on. Yey.
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Good thing we annihilated their nuclear program beyond salvaging in June 2025, right?
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"Mom, is America Great Again?"
"We have Great Again at home."
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"Dad, is America Great Again?"
"I haven't heard that in a long time daughter."
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"Hey, are you winning son?"
"I never was."
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We can just all remind ourselves of what the newly minted member of resistance and previous Trump campaign surrogate, as well as our very own oBlade's favorite interviewer had to say about Trump during the 2024 campaign:
“Dad comes home. He’s pissed. Dad is pissed. And when dad gets home, you know what he says? ‘You’ve been a bad girl. You’ve been a bad little girl, and you’re getting a vigorous spanking right now,’” the former Fox TV host told the crowd in Duluth.
“‘I’m not going to lie. It’s going to hurt you a lot more than it hurts me. And you earned this. You’re getting a vigorous spanking because you’ve been a bad girl. You’re only going to get better when you take responsibility for what you did. It has to be this way.’”
I guess the fantasies he was living out turned out to be true, but instead of Kamala, Trump seems to be spanking the whole of the USA, and it seems like the reason he's doing it is to try and shake any money out of it, so he can steal it.
Are you tired of winning yet guys?
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Hardcore MAGAts do think they're winning. FOX News is telling them gas prices are down, the Iran War is won, off-shored jobs are coming back, and most importantly, the libs are owned.
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On May 12 2026 08:50 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2026 05:50 Vivax wrote:On May 12 2026 04:41 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 12 2026 02:53 Falling wrote:There is no meaningful difference in the uniparty + Show Spoiler +: Genocide Joe and Bomber Harris would have also given a free pass to Netanyahu in Gaza and were gearing for war in Iran, the second stage of Obama's war directives.
It is said the uniparty made much spectacle over expanding healthcare coverage. But they were all of them deceived, for behind the public stunts, the uniparty agreed healthcare coverage should not expand and did not pass it in the 70 days one 'side' of the uniparty had a 'supermajority'. And ever since then the uniparty has been looking to remove the expanded healthcare coverage they did not pass.
Democrats may not be terribly left wing relative to some European democracies, but they do represent the left in American politics. And if, according to you, America cannot even muster a single left wing party but has instead spawned two right wing parties... that does not speak very well of an expanding social consciousness to overthrow the bourgeois and establish a socialist paradise. + Show Spoiler +But do continue to mock and gawk the unwashed and unenlightened proles in this thread. Maybe we split the difference and call them the "left-wing of the uniparty"? Maybe not? Anyway, 90%+ of people including voters from both parties overwhelmingly want pretty radical wealth redistribution.The core problem basically being stuck on the Hamster Wheel. The 90%+ that wants that radical wealth redistribution (or similar majorities with other things) can't muster a party that represents their interest in part because US democracy is (and has been since inception) designed to prevent it. Part of the ratchet effect is convincing people like yourself that we can't have something 90%+ of us support because we want something unreasonable instead of the ~10% having more power/leverage to get/keep it the way they prefer. Redistribution was like stage 1 prevention, we're at stage 2, 3 or even 4, where it's about stopping money from buying any kind of power these guys want. And that's not about superyachts, it's about not allowing a bunch of super rich to play god in societies because they bought out a bunch of dudes in the government. Happens even here. Goes well for a while, not forever. No need to buy the government when you can buy Twitter. Or TikTok. Or already own whatsfacegram.
At this point TikTok is a twitter extension.
It's like choosing between Gork and Mork. Grok or Mork Zuck or whatever. The illusion of competition.
Iran 'war' so far looks more like a bunch of skirmishes, the army hasn't gone far enough into the mainland to reinstate the taliban and dump a few billions in weapons.
In seriousness though, they've just given them the reason to enrich uranium.
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On May 12 2026 23:08 Jankisa wrote:We can just all remind ourselves of what the newly minted member of resistance and previous Trump campaign surrogate, as well as our very own oBlade's favorite interviewer had to say about Trump during the 2024 campaign:
Tom Snyder wasn't alive in 2024.
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FDA chair is resigning. Who jumps ship next? sauce
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