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Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting!

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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23939 Posts
3 hours ago
#114341
On May 10 2026 22:55 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2026 15:19 GreenHorizons wrote:
It would be laughable/funny if there was a real opposition party capable of effectively interceding on behalf of the people in the US.

+ Show Spoiler +
It would be even funnier if there was
a group of leftists that constantly supported the right wing government.

I believe they prefer to be called "Democrats".
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2567 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-05-10 16:58:55
2 hours ago
#114342
I'll have to remember that next time someone says Democrats are right-wing. Our resident tankie says they're leftists.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23939 Posts
2 hours ago
#114343
On May 11 2026 01:58 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2026 01:55 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 10 2026 22:55 Sermokala wrote:
On May 10 2026 15:19 GreenHorizons wrote:
It would be laughable/funny if there was a real opposition party capable of effectively interceding on behalf of the people in the US.

+ Show Spoiler +
It would be even funnier if there was
a group of leftists that constantly supported the right wing government.

I believe they prefer to be called "Democrats".


I'll have to remember that next time someone says Democrats are right-wing. Our resident tankie says they're leftists.

Democrats objectively are right-wing, that's part of why they habitually help right-wing governments, and their pinnacle accomplishment in our lives is passing legislation to the right of Nixon. The same Nixon that used to be considered the threshold for unacceptable criminality by the president until Democrats and their relentless hubris literally helped Trump win.

Everyone here knows and most have basically said that the Democrat party is right-wing by any metric but their own (leaning heavily on self-referential American exceptionalism).

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2567 Posts
1 hour ago
#114344
So Democrats are "a group of leftists" but simultaneously "objectively are right-wing"?
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23939 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-05-10 18:22:23
1 hour ago
#114345
On May 11 2026 03:01 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2026 02:32 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 11 2026 01:58 LightSpectra wrote:
On May 11 2026 01:55 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 10 2026 22:55 Sermokala wrote:
On May 10 2026 15:19 GreenHorizons wrote:
It would be laughable/funny if there was a real opposition party capable of effectively interceding on behalf of the people in the US.

+ Show Spoiler +
It would be even funnier if there was
a group of leftists that constantly supported the right wing government.

I believe they prefer to be called "Democrats".


I'll have to remember that next time someone says Democrats are right-wing. Our resident tankie says they're leftists.

Democrats objectively are right-wing, that's part of why they habitually help right-wing governments, and their pinnacle accomplishment in our lives is passing legislation to the right of Nixon. The same Nixon that used to be considered the threshold for unacceptable criminality by the president until Democrats and their relentless hubris literally helped Trump win.

Everyone here knows and most have basically said that the Democrat party is right-wing by any metric but their own (leaning heavily on self-referential American exceptionalism).



So Democrats are "a group of leftists" but simultaneously "objectively are right-wing"?

Well, "a group of leftists" is something Democrats are called sometimes (frequently in a pejorative manner). Additionally, the Democrat party is objectively right-wing.

It's unfortunate those observations confused you. That's the ratchet effect working in real time.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1714 Posts
1 hour ago
#114346
Serm obviously didn’t mean it like that, sorry you missed it mate, it was super obvious.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2567 Posts
43 minutes ago
#114347
Holding contradictory beliefs simultaneously isn't the ratchet effect, it's called doublethink.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14119 Posts
29 minutes ago
#114348
They can't be both right wing and left wing, and that has nothing to do with the ratchet effect.

Snipping out eight words for incomprehensible misunderstanding of someone elses post is pretty on brand though.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23939 Posts
19 minutes ago
#114349
On May 11 2026 04:28 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2026 03:21 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 11 2026 03:01 LightSpectra wrote:
On May 11 2026 02:32 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 11 2026 01:58 LightSpectra wrote:
On May 11 2026 01:55 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 10 2026 22:55 Sermokala wrote:
On May 10 2026 15:19 GreenHorizons wrote:
It would be laughable/funny if there was a real opposition party capable of effectively interceding on behalf of the people in the US.

+ Show Spoiler +
It would be even funnier if there was
a group of leftists that constantly supported the right wing government.

I believe they prefer to be called "Democrats".


I'll have to remember that next time someone says Democrats are right-wing. Our resident tankie says they're leftists.

Democrats objectively are right-wing, that's part of why they habitually help right-wing governments, and their pinnacle accomplishment in our lives is passing legislation to the right of Nixon. The same Nixon that used to be considered the threshold for unacceptable criminality by the president until Democrats and their relentless hubris literally helped Trump win.

Everyone here knows and most have basically said that the Democrat party is right-wing by any metric but their own (leaning heavily on self-referential American exceptionalism).



So Democrats are "a group of leftists" but simultaneously "objectively are right-wing"?

Well, "a group of leftists" is something Democrats are called sometimes (frequently in a pejorative manner). Additionally, the Democrat party is objectively right-wing.

It's unfortunate those observations confused you. That's the ratchet effect working in real time.

They can't be both right wing and left wing, and that has nothing to do with the ratchet effect.

+ Show Spoiler +
Snipping out eight words for incomprehensible misunderstanding of someone elses post is pretty on brand though.

You're correct that the Democrat party isn't left-wing. People disagreeing with that observation are real time examples of the ratchet effect.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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