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micronesia
United States24772 Posts
March 21 2026 18:54 GMT
#111641
![]() There is nothing disgusting about that tweet. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9847 Posts
March 21 2026 18:58 GMT
#111642
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LightSpectra
United States2575 Posts
March 21 2026 18:58 GMT
#111643
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Biff The Understudy
France8078 Posts
March 21 2026 19:00 GMT
#111644
On March 22 2026 03:54 micronesia wrote: Sad news. ![]() There is nothing disgusting about that tweet. What a cunt. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45915 Posts
March 21 2026 20:35 GMT
#111645
On March 22 2026 04:00 Biff The Understudy wrote: Show nested quote + On March 22 2026 03:54 micronesia wrote: Sad news. ![]() There is nothing disgusting about that tweet. What a cunt. Seems like Trump is still salty that "Mueller’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election identified 10 instances of possible obstruction of justice by President Donald Trump" https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ap-top-news-elections-james-comey-north-america-e0d125d737be4a21a81bec3d9f1dffd8 Not that Trump ever actually faced consequences for... pretty much anything in his entire life... | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26785 Posts
March 21 2026 21:05 GMT
#111646
On March 22 2026 03:58 LightSpectra wrote: I'm confident all the people who were outraged about statements like "Charlie Kirk shouldn't have been murdered but he wasn't a good person" are going to be blowing their tops about this. Oh absolutely, I’d be very surprised if that didn’t occur | ||
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Vivax
22317 Posts
March 21 2026 21:17 GMT
#111647
On March 22 2026 06:05 WombaT wrote: Show nested quote + On March 22 2026 03:58 LightSpectra wrote: I'm confident all the people who were outraged about statements like "Charlie Kirk shouldn't have been murdered but he wasn't a good person" are going to be blowing their tops about this. Oh absolutely, I’d be very surprised if that didn’t occur Kirk wasn't investigating Trumps Russian connections that he suspected he was blocking from being investigated, he was publically verbally attacking minorities and got shot by a dude who was friends with a trans. It's a bit too much as a reaction but it's the US. Since it can't be fined in the US, a bit of arson might have been enough. | ||
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dyhb
United States308 Posts
March 21 2026 22:01 GMT
#111648
On March 22 2026 06:17 Vivax wrote: You want to set Charlie Kirk on fire instead of shooting him, or like burn down his house or something? I’m not sure what a bit of arson means in a context of Kirk’s speech. Show nested quote + On March 22 2026 06:05 WombaT wrote: On March 22 2026 03:58 LightSpectra wrote: I'm confident all the people who were outraged about statements like "Charlie Kirk shouldn't have been murdered but he wasn't a good person" are going to be blowing their tops about this. Oh absolutely, I’d be very surprised if that didn’t occur Kirk wasn't investigating Trumps Russian connections that he suspected he was blocking from being investigated, he was publically verbally attacking minorities and got shot by a dude who was friends with a trans. It's a bit too much as a reaction but it's the US. Since it can't be fined in the US, a bit of arson might have been enough. | ||
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Billyboy
1719 Posts
March 21 2026 22:02 GMT
#111649
On March 22 2026 06:17 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On March 22 2026 06:05 WombaT wrote: On March 22 2026 03:58 LightSpectra wrote: I'm confident all the people who were outraged about statements like "Charlie Kirk shouldn't have been murdered but he wasn't a good person" are going to be blowing their tops about this. Oh absolutely, I’d be very surprised if that didn’t occur Kirk wasn't investigating Trumps Russian connections that he suspected he was blocking from being investigated, he was publically verbally attacking minorities and got shot by a dude who was friends with a trans. It's a bit too much as a reaction but it's the US. Since it can't be fined in the US, a bit of arson might have been enough. According to the recently resigned counter terrorism head Joe Kent said that there was credible evidence of foreign interference but that the Trump administration made them close the investigation before looking into it. These guys love conspiracies and spreading shit so who knows. https://www.newsweek.com/ex-trump-official-says-he-was-told-stop-investigating-charlie-kirk-killing-11704210 | ||
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Vivax
22317 Posts
March 21 2026 22:08 GMT
#111650
On March 22 2026 07:01 dyhb wrote: Show nested quote + You want to set Charlie Kirk on fire instead of shooting him, or like burn down his house or something? I’m not sure what a bit of arson means in a context of Kirk’s speech. On March 22 2026 06:17 Vivax wrote: On March 22 2026 06:05 WombaT wrote: On March 22 2026 03:58 LightSpectra wrote: I'm confident all the people who were outraged about statements like "Charlie Kirk shouldn't have been murdered but he wasn't a good person" are going to be blowing their tops about this. Oh absolutely, I’d be very surprised if that didn’t occur Kirk wasn't investigating Trumps Russian connections that he suspected he was blocking from being investigated, he was publically verbally attacking minorities and got shot by a dude who was friends with a trans. It's a bit too much as a reaction but it's the US. Since it can't be fined in the US, a bit of arson might have been enough. I'm not really into these kind of activities, maybe I would have lighted a cigarette for him. But a dumpster fire usually implies one should tone it down a notch. | ||
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Introvert
United States4951 Posts
March 21 2026 22:37 GMT
#111651
On March 22 2026 07:01 dyhb wrote: Show nested quote + You want to set Charlie Kirk on fire instead of shooting him, or like burn down his house or something? I’m not sure what a bit of arson means in a context of Kirk’s speech. On March 22 2026 06:17 Vivax wrote: On March 22 2026 06:05 WombaT wrote: On March 22 2026 03:58 LightSpectra wrote: I'm confident all the people who were outraged about statements like "Charlie Kirk shouldn't have been murdered but he wasn't a good person" are going to be blowing their tops about this. Oh absolutely, I’d be very surprised if that didn’t occur Kirk wasn't investigating Trumps Russian connections that he suspected he was blocking from being investigated, he was publically verbally attacking minorities and got shot by a dude who was friends with a trans. It's a bit too much as a reaction but it's the US. Since it can't be fined in the US, a bit of arson might have been enough. Moreover the cross-section of people cheering, excusing, or simply silent r.e. Kirk now want to be very mad that Trunp said he was glad someone who he actually interacted with is dead. There's plenty of hypocrisy to go around. Even worse imo since Kirk was assassinated but Mueller was not. Now obviously Trump shouldn't say that even if he feels it. What he said about Rob Riener was way worse though. Trump is an a-hole, but the outrage is a bit much considering where it is coming from. | ||
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micronesia
United States24772 Posts
March 21 2026 22:44 GMT
#111652
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EnDeR_
Spain2879 Posts
March 21 2026 22:52 GMT
#111653
On March 22 2026 02:30 dyhb wrote: Show nested quote + On March 21 2026 18:49 baal wrote: On March 21 2026 15:20 EnDeR_ wrote: On March 21 2026 14:09 baal wrote: On March 19 2026 17:08 EnDeR_ wrote: Happy to include denying the holodomor illegal. Is there a big group of people going around denying that it happened? YES! almost every hard communist and tankie I've talked with denies de holodomor, its a mainstream hard leftist idea, just as its common hard right wingers deny the holocaust. I don't think you can make the equivalence of the hammer and sickle and nazi swastikas; one stands for an ideology about resource distribution, the other stands for white supremacy and antisemitism. It is obviously true that atrocities have been committed under the banner of communism, but the stated intent was never "eradicate the jews" or "purify the white race" for any of these regimes, if you see what I mean. The key difference is intent, even if the outcomes aren't too dissimilar in practice. The stated intent of the Nazi party was never to exterminate the jews, yet they did in secret just like the stated intent of Soviets wasn't to exterminate the Kulaks, yet they did in secret. -When somebody says "eat the rich" they don't actually mean to kill the rich, despise that historically they always have done it, it just means, redistribute. -When a muslim chants in the streets "Khaibar Khaibar ya Yahud" they don't actually mean to massacre the jews like they did in Khaibar, its just a chant of the oppressed against Israel. -When somebody says "seig heil" oh ok that is hate speech, arrest him. That's ridiculous hates speech laws are enforced however the people in power see fit, and as I've said before, there will be a time where the people in power think very different than you and will apply these laws in ways you won't like. Source for the bolded? https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/deceiving-the-public Hitler before 1939 spoke exclusively of expulsion of the jews. Deeper into the war his rhetoric shifter towards total destruction of the jewery in Europe, language vague enough to maintain deniability of genocide intent. I mean, It's pretty obvious, do you think german citizens would vote in a guy that from day one ran a campaing on mass murder of every single jew? That would be a big misconception of how things like the holocaust happen Show nested quote + You'll note how the original question, the replied and bolded "The stated intent of the Nazi party was never to exterminate the jews ... yet they did in secret" was summarily dropped. The goalposts moved to, "Was there any violence" and "Let's count emigration" and "Was there violent antisemitism." So you can tell broad agreement with the claim by how quickly it was silently accepted and changed. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum online resources are right about it, for those that clicked your link. The lies were to conceal what they were doing, and not totally ineffective because they had told everyone exactly what they planned to do from the start.On March 21 2026 19:08 baal wrote: On March 21 2026 15:37 KwarK wrote: Yeah, they literally wrote a book about doing it and it's not like Kristallnacht was secret either. If everybody knew do you think so many millions of jews were stupid enough to not leave Germany before the war? Most people didn't know, sure, the ones that read mein kampf, the ones that paid close attention and were smart enough knew, and many fled. The soviets did the same thing, Stalin publicly promised "the elimination of the kulak class" and everybody cheered, most didn't know they were going to get killed. You get fuzzy later, since forced transfer or children/prevention of births can be considered "genocide." It's not just about murdering an ethnic/religious minority. Are you talking about my post here? I didn't think there would be pushback saying that Nazis were intent on exterminating all the Jews. That kind of blindsided me to be honest. | ||
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Introvert
United States4951 Posts
March 21 2026 22:57 GMT
#111654
On March 22 2026 07:44 micronesia wrote: I don't think anyone here has done anything comparable to the president officially announcing that he's glad a political opponent is dead. Your claims of hypocrisy aren't even worth addressing at this moment. I don't understand this. No one here is president? So of course? The Kirk discourse got far more engagement from both sides than this will so again I'm just not sure this is a meaningful point. People here were definitely cheering/excusing the cheering though. So they certainly did the bolded. If you want to say that Trump, as president, should act like it, then I will agree with you. | ||
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dyhb
United States308 Posts
March 21 2026 22:58 GMT
#111655
On March 22 2026 07:44 micronesia wrote: I didn't read Introvert mentionining people "here," only that a "cross-section of people cheering, excusing, or simply silent r.e. Kirk." Just so I get this straight, are you claiming that cheering the assassination of Kirk is very minor and thus incomparable to Trump cheering the (natural) death of Mueller?I don't think anyone here has done anything comparable to the president officially announcing that he's glad a political opponent is dead. Your claims of hypocrisy aren't even worth addressing at this moment. I wasn't reading the thread back around Kirk's death, so I don't know whether you personally or others around here said something as disgusting as Trump saying he was glad Mueller died. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28797 Posts
March 21 2026 23:01 GMT
#111656
On March 22 2026 07:37 Introvert wrote: Show nested quote + On March 22 2026 07:01 dyhb wrote: On March 22 2026 06:17 Vivax wrote: You want to set Charlie Kirk on fire instead of shooting him, or like burn down his house or something? I’m not sure what a bit of arson means in a context of Kirk’s speech. On March 22 2026 06:05 WombaT wrote: On March 22 2026 03:58 LightSpectra wrote: I'm confident all the people who were outraged about statements like "Charlie Kirk shouldn't have been murdered but he wasn't a good person" are going to be blowing their tops about this. Oh absolutely, I’d be very surprised if that didn’t occur Kirk wasn't investigating Trumps Russian connections that he suspected he was blocking from being investigated, he was publically verbally attacking minorities and got shot by a dude who was friends with a trans. It's a bit too much as a reaction but it's the US. Since it can't be fined in the US, a bit of arson might have been enough. Moreover the cross-section of people cheering, excusing, or simply silent r.e. Kirk now want to be very mad that Trunp said he was glad someone who he actually interacted with is dead. There's plenty of hypocrisy to go around. Even worse imo since Kirk was assassinated but Mueller was not. Now obviously Trump shouldn't say that even if he feels it. What he said about Rob Riener was way worse though. Trump is an a-hole, but the outrage is a bit much considering where it is coming from. Isn't the outrage directed towards Trump when he says stuff like this pretty much universal among like, every single person who isn't a complete piece of shit? Also, how is what he said about Rob Reiner 'way worse'? The guy said 'Good, I’m glad he’s dead', I really struggle seeing how it gets 'much worse' than that. I also struggle understanding why you're insisting on selling your soul for some guy you according to yourself you haven't voted for and do not like. Presumably, there's not even going to be another election where you're forced to choose between your political opinions and your morality anyway - you can say "Trump is vile disgusting man. Petty and pathetic, you are a hypocrite who reeks of weakness and insecurities with no moral core. Regardless of the politics, the American people should be embarrassed and ashamed for ever having entrusted you with leadership" or “When you die, Americans, and people around the world, will dance in the streets for weeks because you’re a low, degenerate, criminal fraud who left a full stain on the presidency.” or “What a sick human being. A permanent disfiguring scar on the dignity of our nation.” without really losing face or whatever, but instead you insist on trying to be like 'meh no biggie'. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2575 Posts
March 21 2026 23:07 GMT
#111657
I'm not aware of a single Democrat anywhere saying anything more controversial than "Charlie Kirk shouldn't have been murdered but he wasn't a good person", although one guy got thrown in jail for 37 days for saying "We need to get over it" (quoting child molester Donald Trump in reference to one of the hundreds of school shootings that happened in 2025). Also, it's not hypocritical to expect the "don't speak ill of the dead" party that wept 100 days of blood over people who remembered the actual things Kirk said (like homosexuals being stoned to death is "God's perfect law") to be consistent and condemn Trump over what he said about Mueller, but let's be real, they're not going to do that because they have no real convictions. Maybe some retiring Republican will make some milquetoast remark like "he shouldn't have said that" and that'll be it. | ||
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Introvert
United States4951 Posts
March 21 2026 23:09 GMT
#111658
On March 22 2026 08:01 Liquid`Drone wrote: Show nested quote + On March 22 2026 07:37 Introvert wrote: On March 22 2026 07:01 dyhb wrote: On March 22 2026 06:17 Vivax wrote: You want to set Charlie Kirk on fire instead of shooting him, or like burn down his house or something? I’m not sure what a bit of arson means in a context of Kirk’s speech. On March 22 2026 06:05 WombaT wrote: On March 22 2026 03:58 LightSpectra wrote: I'm confident all the people who were outraged about statements like "Charlie Kirk shouldn't have been murdered but he wasn't a good person" are going to be blowing their tops about this. Oh absolutely, I’d be very surprised if that didn’t occur Kirk wasn't investigating Trumps Russian connections that he suspected he was blocking from being investigated, he was publically verbally attacking minorities and got shot by a dude who was friends with a trans. It's a bit too much as a reaction but it's the US. Since it can't be fined in the US, a bit of arson might have been enough. Moreover the cross-section of people cheering, excusing, or simply silent r.e. Kirk now want to be very mad that Trunp said he was glad someone who he actually interacted with is dead. There's plenty of hypocrisy to go around. Even worse imo since Kirk was assassinated but Mueller was not. Now obviously Trump shouldn't say that even if he feels it. What he said about Rob Riener was way worse though. Trump is an a-hole, but the outrage is a bit much considering where it is coming from. Isn't the outrage directed towards Trump when he says stuff like this pretty much universal among like, every single person who isn't a complete piece of shit? Also, how is what he said about Rob Reiner 'way worse'? The guy said 'Good, I’m glad he’s dead', I really struggle seeing how it gets 'much worse' than that. I also struggle understanding why you're insisting on selling your soul for some guy you according to yourself you haven't voted for and do not like. Presumably, there's not even going to be another election where you're forced to choose between your political opinions and your morality anyway - you can say "Trump is vile disgusting man. Petty and pathetic, you are a hypocrite who reeks of weakness and insecurities with no moral core. Regardless of the politics, the American people should be embarrassed and ashamed for ever having entrusted you with leadership" or “When you die, Americans, and people around the world, will dance in the streets for weeks because you’re a low, degenerate, criminal fraud who left a full stain on the presidency.” or “What a sick human being. A permanent disfiguring scar on the dignity of our nation.” without really losing face or whatever, but instead you insist on trying to be like 'meh no biggie'. See my follow up reply. Or even the reply I gave to you the other day. I've said Trump is a terrible person a million times but I'd prefer if the conversation didn’t just stop there. Unfortunately that's where it seems like people want to dwell. It gets hard to discuss things worth discussing, like Iran, ICE enforcement, trade, or anything else. If every conversation has to come back to "Tump is a bad man" then we probably aren’t getting anywhere. Heck Trump himself said something like "Kirk loved his enemies, I hate my enemies." So I don't see where I've sold my soul since evey time I'm asked I say he's a bad person. People are using as a way to avoid talking about other things. Edit: my recollection is that Trunp blamed Reiner's murder on TDS. I think that's worse, especially since A) Riener was murdered, didn't just die B) Mueller did go on a months long witch hunt against Trump so was in some sense "an enemy" in a way that a Democrat film director wasn't. | ||
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dyhb
United States308 Posts
March 21 2026 23:10 GMT
#111659
On March 22 2026 07:52 EnDeR_ wrote: I was a little surprised in the opposite direction. I thought it was more widely known that the extermination part was done in secret, and with great care taken to conceal these efforts from the public. The Nazis had a public message of labor camps and actually built/rebuilt Theresienstadt to as a hoax retirement community. Maybe you forgot, but the claim was Show nested quote + On March 22 2026 02:30 dyhb wrote: On March 21 2026 18:49 baal wrote: On March 21 2026 15:20 EnDeR_ wrote: On March 21 2026 14:09 baal wrote: On March 19 2026 17:08 EnDeR_ wrote: Happy to include denying the holodomor illegal. Is there a big group of people going around denying that it happened? YES! almost every hard communist and tankie I've talked with denies de holodomor, its a mainstream hard leftist idea, just as its common hard right wingers deny the holocaust. I don't think you can make the equivalence of the hammer and sickle and nazi swastikas; one stands for an ideology about resource distribution, the other stands for white supremacy and antisemitism. It is obviously true that atrocities have been committed under the banner of communism, but the stated intent was never "eradicate the jews" or "purify the white race" for any of these regimes, if you see what I mean. The key difference is intent, even if the outcomes aren't too dissimilar in practice. The stated intent of the Nazi party was never to exterminate the jews, yet they did in secret just like the stated intent of Soviets wasn't to exterminate the Kulaks, yet they did in secret. -When somebody says "eat the rich" they don't actually mean to kill the rich, despise that historically they always have done it, it just means, redistribute. -When a muslim chants in the streets "Khaibar Khaibar ya Yahud" they don't actually mean to massacre the jews like they did in Khaibar, its just a chant of the oppressed against Israel. -When somebody says "seig heil" oh ok that is hate speech, arrest him. That's ridiculous hates speech laws are enforced however the people in power see fit, and as I've said before, there will be a time where the people in power think very different than you and will apply these laws in ways you won't like. Source for the bolded? https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/deceiving-the-public Hitler before 1939 spoke exclusively of expulsion of the jews. Deeper into the war his rhetoric shifter towards total destruction of the jewery in Europe, language vague enough to maintain deniability of genocide intent. I mean, It's pretty obvious, do you think german citizens would vote in a guy that from day one ran a campaing on mass murder of every single jew? That would be a big misconception of how things like the holocaust happen On March 21 2026 19:08 baal wrote: You'll note how the original question, the replied and bolded "The stated intent of the Nazi party was never to exterminate the jews ... yet they did in secret" was summarily dropped. The goalposts moved to, "Was there any violence" and "Let's count emigration" and "Was there violent antisemitism." So you can tell broad agreement with the claim by how quickly it was silently accepted and changed. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum online resources are right about it, for those that clicked your link. The lies were to conceal what they were doing, and not totally ineffective because they had told everyone exactly what they planned to do from the start.On March 21 2026 15:37 KwarK wrote: Yeah, they literally wrote a book about doing it and it's not like Kristallnacht was secret either. If everybody knew do you think so many millions of jews were stupid enough to not leave Germany before the war? Most people didn't know, sure, the ones that read mein kampf, the ones that paid close attention and were smart enough knew, and many fled. The soviets did the same thing, Stalin publicly promised "the elimination of the kulak class" and everybody cheered, most didn't know they were going to get killed. You get fuzzy later, since forced transfer or children/prevention of births can be considered "genocide." It's not just about murdering an ethnic/religious minority. Are you talking about my post here? I didn't think there would be pushback saying that Nazis were intent on exterminating all the Jews. That kind of blindsided me to be honest. stated intent of the Nazi party was never to exterminate the jews , where they were busy trying to fool the world that they were engaged in separation/segregation and emigration for years. Did you read the Holocaust Museum link, and is there anything in there that you disagree with? | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2575 Posts
March 21 2026 23:15 GMT
#111660
On March 22 2026 08:09 Introvert wrote: B) Mueller did go on a months long witch hunt against Trump so was in some sense "an enemy" in a way that a Democrat film director wasn't. You seem to be deeply confused about the phrase "witch hunt". Actual witches capable of supernatural magic don't exist, so anyone killed for practicing witchcraft was killed for bogus reasons. The Mueller investigation resulted in numerous felony indictments and guilty verdicts, and the conclusions of his report were backed up by a Senate Committee chaired by Marco Rubio, the current Secretary of State. He was also appointed by a fellow Republican, Rod Rosenstein, who was confirmed by the Republican-held Senate. At no point was the investigation unwarranted or unjustified. | ||
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