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KwarK
United States44203 Posts
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oBlade
United States6328 Posts
On June 13 2025 08:52 Mohdoo wrote: I am going to assume you did not see the video of him being handcuffed on the ground. Which is understandable since this is very recent news. But I don't think its possible for you to make this post after seeing that video. If this was made before seeing that video, please do not feel like you need to buckle down on this perspective after seeing it. Why was nobody else pushed around? For example, easy targets in say, the "fake news media" in attendance, who are clearly less robustly built than this guy. Would be so easy to drag them out in the hallway and handcuff them. Why weren't they singled out? You can see he's in an aisle which is for coming and going in the room's layout, not an "approach the speaking people this way" aisle. Everyone in polite attendance was sitting and standing orderly on the left. Was he wearing his name tag and Senate security pin? No. Did the FBI uniform guy and everyone else know who he was? I mean, maybe Secret Service or some Capitol Police has quizzes and has to memorize who everyone is. Also, do you get to interrupt and suspiciously approach someone's press conference with impunity, even if we know who you are just because you're a Senator? No. There are 100 Senators. Senators on both sides of the aisle have this thing where they all think they're the president and center of the universe. This guy's ploy is transparent. Go there, try to make a scene, if Noem ignores and doesn't answer (because he's out of order to begin with), then it proves she doesn't know the answer or she's fascist. If they push you out, it's not because you were way too close and looked unhinged and literally pushed BACK against officers trying to move you to a safer distance, it's that she's fascist. One person planned this, and it wasn't Noem. Officers were extremely calm and did a great job. And to Padilla's credit except for a kind of Sumo act there wasn't any violence or altercation like him throwing a punch or swearing and in the hallway he was pretty quick to stop and put his hands up and signal he's going to quit and from his own mouth he wasn't arrested and hasn't been charged. People in Congress do weird shit. They pull fire alarms. They yell in the middle of presidential speeches (Can easily throw MTG out for that). + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On June 13 2025 08:52 Mohdoo wrote: I am going to assume you did not see the video of him being handcuffed on the ground. Which is understandable since this is very recent news. But I don't think its possible for you to make this post after seeing that video. If this was made before seeing that video, please do not feel like you need to buckle down on this perspective after seeing it. You're quite lenient. I would just strictly argue that the man who barges into a room because he opposes the fascism that is currently on the rise is not the real threat and not the real problem and is not the one who should be criticized. Instead it should be the fascists who get this man so riled up that he feels he has to barge into the room. And this is the fascist playbook: first do a number of fascist acts, such as brutally attacking and abducting innocent citizens. Then call the opposition reckless and dangerous for having a meltdown over these violent fascist acts. And there you have it. The fascists are the ones looking reasonable (to some, such as BJ). It also happens to be the bully playbook. Fascists and bullies are one and the same. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
Note I'm still learning the ropes of being a bootlicker. Not too used to it quite yet. I'll work on improving my rhetoric to make it more believable in the future. | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany1164 Posts
On June 13 2025 13:02 KwarK wrote: If Hesgeth was going to do anything he'd have announced it on Facebook Marketplace by now. He was blocked there trying to sell his home made stripper videos that used unlicensed music and copy of the corporate identity of the chippendales. Try the unfortunate craigslist handle xXx_SpeedoPedo80_xXx | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cHq2pfHa8nw I'm starting to develop a finer taste for boots. | ||
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oBlade
United States6328 Posts
On June 13 2025 17:48 Magic Powers wrote: Look at how unreasonable these protesters are, causing a ruckus with the totally not criminal ICE organization. Obstructing the totally legit and not shady process of removing ultra-violent non-citizens under the command of a freedom loving administration. These violent protesters should all be thrown to the floor and detained, ideally also beaten with batons while we're at it. Gotta teach people a lesson not to play victim. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMOAcEgsI_8 Note I'm still learning the ropes of being a bootlicker. Not too used to it quite yet. I'll work on improving my rhetoric to make it more believable in the future. In the New World we have a saying: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9956 Posts
On June 13 2025 19:35 oBlade wrote: In the New World we have a saying: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. aka Don't get in the way of totalitarians when they're in the middle of totalitarianing. | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1504 Posts
Oh, so it was illegal. I'm assuming the resident law and order posters here who were explaining to us how everything Trump was doing in California was perfectly legal will come and apologize for this and ask for Trump to face consequences for blatantly breaking the law. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28873 Posts
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micronesia
United States24784 Posts
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28873 Posts
On June 13 2025 20:34 micronesia wrote: Who ruled it was legal? Last I saw, an appeals court only paused the ruling against Trump, but I could be missing something. Yeah okay that's fair. I guess I understood it as them ruling it 'not illegal' which in my mind is 'legal', but seems they just blocked the ruling without taking a stance. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7188 Posts
On June 13 2025 19:35 oBlade wrote: In the New World we have a saying: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. "Tread on me harder daddy". | ||
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MJG
United Kingdom1451 Posts
On June 13 2025 19:35 oBlade wrote: In the New World we have a saying: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. So that's why Tesla owners have been learning a new definition for "combustion engine"... | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2910 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24154 Posts
On June 13 2025 08:58 Mohdoo wrote: That's part of what I think is funny and depressing. Within the right wing, the moderates are the ones who are cowards and can't imagine throwing away an election. Within the left wing, moderates will gladly burn the house down and let the pieces fall where they will, because they have no actual moral or philosophical ties to politics. They have pathways to continue generating lots of income regardless of what happens to democrats.+ Show Spoiler + Modern leftists have deep moral convictions and feel committed to improving lives. They can't stomach the idea of holding firm and letting the house burn down. And when I say modern leftists, I'm being very generous and broad. I don't just mean the Jasmine types. Even the Ron Wyden types are bending the knee and being cowards. The entire party is held hostage by people who truly feel zero investment in how the country is run and they don't have any moral framework. I don't know if there are reliable statistics, but from what I gather, "moderates" mostly did relatively okay in Nazi Germany (and/or fled) compared to the people to their left. Then some of those same moderates ended up back in charge after other people beat the Nazis. I suspect that sort of scenario is what most of the Democrat party expects from the US falling into fascism. They'll be fine or flee, then take back over when someone else cleans up their mess and the dust settles. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8149 Posts
On June 13 2025 19:35 oBlade wrote: In the New World we have a saying: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Could say that for every person that has fought against oppression, dictatorships, and tyranny and ended up paying the ultimate price. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. If you think that having the courage of fighting for the oppressed is stupid. Obviously the case of everyone on the right in the US right now. | ||
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Falling
Canada11586 Posts
On June 13 2025 21:26 Liquid`Drone wrote: Yeah okay that's fair. I guess I understood it as them ruling it 'not illegal' which in my mind is 'legal', but seems they just blocked the ruling without taking a stance. Yeah, as I understand it. This is a normal part of the appeals process. The first judge orders a pause to a government action because they determine it to be illegal. The appeals judge pauses the pause and then the issue goes appeal. The reason for this is so that the government is not continually starting and stopping every time a judges rules differently. Creates continuity in governance while the issue works its way up the justice system until the matter is resolved at whatever highest court is necessary and then if it is actually determined to be unconstitutional, then you will actually see the government required to stop their action... and then we see if they will defy the courts. It's a slow process that is getting abused because this administration is overloading the system with unconstitutional acts which allows them to act with impunity (including feigning ignorance and pretending to comply without actually doing.) They are starting to lose in court but they motor on with more acts. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On June 13 2025 23:03 GreenHorizons wrote: I don't know if there are reliable statistics, but from what I gather, "moderates" mostly did relatively okay in Nazi Germany (and/or fled) compared to the people to their left. Then some of those same moderates ended up back in charge after other people beat the Nazis. I suspect that sort of scenario is what most of the Democrat party expects from the US falling into fascism. They'll be fine or flee, then take back over when someone else cleans up their mess and the dust settles. I agree. They will gladly function as controlled opposition similar to other fascist governments. Technically there is the other candidate, and then they lose by like 105% | ||
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