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KT_Elwood
Germany1081 Posts
Even the Nazis had to made up a polish attack on some radio tower to start WW2. And they made up the whole schmu about Jews stealing and controlling the world.. to legalize stealing from jews..and push for controlling the world. They want to be admired for saving the day defending "Freedom". Or Whatever. And they want to be racists assholes. All at the same time. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23453 Posts
What would you want us here to do if we found out you or your husband/wife/partner/child had been kidnapped and taken to this hellhole in El Salvador? Then the US government refused to return you/them despite acknowledging you/they were kidnapped by mistake? | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9005 Posts
On April 17 2025 21:57 GreenHorizons wrote: To everyone that still opposes joining the general strike I've mentioned and refuses to join the effort to describe a general strike they would support What would you want us here to do if we found out you or your husband/wife/partner/child had been kidnapped and taken to this hellhole in El Salvador? Then the US government refused to return you/them despite acknowledging you/they were kidnapped by mistake? Send thoughts and prayers. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8635 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23453 Posts
For you, who could end up in a situation like that easier than most here, your frivolity is noted. If Trump calls on your contract to serve (maybe after congress makes that something he can do for people that have been out for too long) in one of these hellholes in or outside the US, would you do it or break your contract? | ||
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misirlou
Portugal3241 Posts
On April 17 2025 20:01 Gorsameth wrote: Almost as if due process is important and skipping it creates a shit load of issues even in otherwise potentially simple cases... It's just a checkbox they forgot to check mate, accidents happen! You never forgot to cross a checkbox at work or checked it by mistake without doing the thing? Be a little humble!!!!!! OMG!!!!!! Oblade, you're happily enabling and carrying water for a totalitarian regime. Move to north korea if you want and leave the rest of us to live out our lives free from random prosecutions and state sanctioned kidnappings. | ||
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oBlade
United States5765 Posts
On April 17 2025 22:51 misirlou wrote: It's just a checkbox they forgot to check mate, accidents happen! You never forgot to cross a checkbox at work or checked it by mistake without doing the thing? Be a little humble!!!!!! OMG!!!!!! Oblade, you're happily enabling and carrying water for a totalitarian regime. Move to north korea if you want and leave the rest of us to live out our lives free from random prosecutions and state sanctioned kidnappings. You've been to the DMZ too right buddy? It's quite a sight. Good old DPRK, a country so many people from around the world want to sneak into that the country had to build some of the most guarded and mined borders in the world to keep people out of it, and is notorious worldwide for kidnapping its own citizens and kicking them out to other countries forever so they can never get back which is what I'm sure Trump is going to do with all his enemies this time. On April 17 2025 21:39 KT_Elwood wrote: Even the Nazis had to made up a polish attack on some radio tower to start WW2. And they made up the whole schmu about Jews stealing and controlling the world.. to legalize stealing from jews..and push for controlling the world. Germany should have deported Hitler while they still had the chance. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9005 Posts
On April 17 2025 22:13 GreenHorizons wrote: For you, who could end up in a situation like that easier than most here, your frivolity is noted. If Trump calls on your contract to serve (maybe after congress makes that something he can do for people that have been out for too long) in one of these hellholes in or outside the US, would you do it or break your contract? I don't have a contract to serve. For a number of reasons, chief among them being I've been completely out since 2012. Second is that I'm medically unable to. So yeah... | ||
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misirlou
Portugal3241 Posts
On April 17 2025 23:08 oBlade wrote: You've been to the DMZ too right buddy? It's quite a sight. Good old DPRK, a country so many people from around the world want to sneak into that the country had to build some of the most guarded and mined borders in the world to keep people out of it, and is notorious worldwide for kidnapping its own citizens and kicking them out to other countries forever so they can never get back which is what I'm sure Trump is going to do with all his enemies this time. Funny, some people keep "crying" Trump will do X, then he does it and the MAGA goal posts just keep moving, surely he won't make the next egregious thing because the previous one was totally warranted even though up until the day before you're pointing and laughing at the "boys crying wolf" about it. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23453 Posts
On April 17 2025 23:16 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: I don't have a contract to serve. For a number of reasons, chief among them being I've been completely out since 2012. Second is that I'm medically unable to. So yeah... Hence the bit about congress (the date you got out wouldn't matter), but yeah, I guess you can just point to a medical exemption rather than saying you wouldn't follow orders to work one of these hellholes... I mean if all you'd want is our thoughts and prayers if some random ICE agents didn't like the way you/someone you love looked at them and they "mistakenly" sent you/someone you love to the CECOT facility without due process and the government refused to get you/someone you love back, I guess working some place like that would probably be fine for you, if you were medically able? | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9005 Posts
On April 17 2025 23:45 GreenHorizons wrote: Hence the bit about congress (the date you got out wouldn't matter), but yeah, I guess you can just point to a medical exemption rather than saying you wouldn't follow orders to work one of these hellholes... I mean if all you'd want is our thoughts and prayers if some random ICE agents didn't like the way you/someone you love looked at them and they "mistakenly" sent you/someone you love to the CECOT facility without due process and the government refused to get you/someone you love back, I guess working some place like that would probably be fine for you, if you were medically able? We can do the entire hypothetical until you're blue in the face. What you want, I'm not giving it to you. Because you're just seeking validation for your constant criticisms. We all know thoughts and prayers is about as far as you've gone to get shit done, so miss me with that noise. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23453 Posts
On April 17 2025 23:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: We can do the entire hypothetical until you're blue in the face. What you want, I'm not giving it to you. Because you're just seeking validation for your constant criticisms. We all know thoughts and prayers is about as far as you've gone to get shit done, so miss me with that noise. I'm looking for something better than the general strike efforts I mentioned or LibHorizon's plan, but I think it's safe to say I'm not going to get that from you or anyone like you, because you aren't interested in finding it. You're satisfied with "thoughts and prayers" and proud of it. | ||
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Billyboy
1236 Posts
On April 17 2025 16:43 Jankisa wrote: So not placing hopes in getting the worlds premiere superpower off the ledge of fascism into working with the cult members and fascist enablers is now "purity testing". Got it. I guess for someone like you who (seems to me) has been holding water for these people while pretending to be a victim because "woke" the only thing that's left is attack the people pointing out who you have supported and are still counting on to "fix things": I'm not American but the global recession that Trump and his kleptocrats are triggering will make me and everyone else in the world suffer, and it's going to be the fault of you and every other "blame the Democrats for not appeasing Republicans enough" American, congratulations, in my opinion History will not remember you fondly. All I can do now is hope that you guys isolate yourselves from the world sufficiently enough not to push us all over the brink while Trump and his cronies rob you blind and throw you in gulags. Holy strawman batman! Is this how you live your life, take a small bit of information from someone and than paint an entire picture of them (make it awful) and treat it as fact? Sad part is you are the new normal, and this why politics now a days is just a constant hyperbole filled fight. | ||
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Legan
Finland489 Posts
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Dan HH
Romania9135 Posts
On April 18 2025 00:19 Legan wrote: I wonder how some people think they could prove to ICE that they are A) citizens of the USA and B) not homegrown criminals when they are already being deported to El Salvador before their lawyer has even contacted the court. What document will they have in their pocket that an ICE officer will accept as proof of citizenship? What do they think happens when the officer says the document is fake? What will make the government follow the court's order to undo their mistake in their unique case? Probably a swastika tattoo would be the easiest way to prove you're one of the good guys. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9714 Posts
On April 18 2025 01:19 Dan HH wrote: Probably a swastika tattoo would be the easiest way to prove you're one of the good guys. Are you one of those leftists who calls everyone with a swastika tattoo a Nazi? Typical of the left. Not everyone's a Nazi you know. | ||
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Billyboy
1236 Posts
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oBlade
United States5765 Posts
On April 18 2025 00:19 Legan wrote: I wonder how some people think they could prove to ICE that they are A) citizens of the USA and B) not homegrown criminals when they are already being deported to El Salvador before their lawyer has even contacted the court. What document will they have in their pocket that an ICE officer will accept as proof of citizenship? What do they think happens when the officer says the document is fake? What will make the government follow the court's order to undo their mistake in their unique case? Yeah like when you have a bad traffic cop who breaks into your house and arrests you for reckless driving when you're sitting in a recliner. What evidence is he going to accept that you even have a license and proof of insurance? He can just say it's forged and haul you to jail anyway, which is why this situation I'm explaining now is obviously something that really happens. Because I mean these are just the kinds of pigs LEO are trained to be. Even if a MAGA judge placed a final removal order on someone after all the due process, there's no guarantee these ICE people wouldn't grab the wrong guy by accident, or even on purpose. What real defense is there to all these hijinks other than the slim intersection of people who are both card-carrying communists AND gainfully employed not going to work for a while? I mean who's really to say who is and isn't a citizen to begin with? Someone could be born in the US by a midwife with no birth certificate or social security number, raised with a family where they picked up a foreign language and accent, and live their whole life with no tax or any other history. And that could even look the exact same as someone who swam across the Rio Grande after tearing up their passports and burning their fingerprints. Who's to say which is which really? There would be no way of knowing for sure. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45009 Posts
On April 18 2025 01:48 oBlade wrote: Yeah like when you have a bad traffic cop who breaks into your house and arrests you for reckless driving when you're sitting in a recliner. What evidence is he going to accept that you even have a license and proof of insurance? He can just say it's forged and haul you to jail anyway, which is why this situation I'm explaining now is obviously something that really happens. Because I mean these are just the kinds of pigs LEO are trained to be. Even if a MAGA judge placed a final removal order on someone after all the due process, there's no guarantee these ICE people wouldn't grab the wrong guy by accident, or even on purpose. What real defense is there to all these hijinks other than the slim intersection of people who are both card-carrying communists AND gainfully employed not going to work for a while? I mean who's really to say who is and isn't a citizen to begin with? Someone could be born in the US by a midwife with no birth certificate or social security number, raised with a family where they picked up a foreign language and accent, and live their whole life with no tax or any other history. And that could even look the exact same as someone who swam across the Rio Grande after tearing up their passports and burning their fingerprints. Who's to say which is which really? There would be no way of knowing for sure. I think your sarcasm and satire would be received more warmly if this were a different presidential administration or if what happened to Kilmar Ábrego García didn't actually happen. | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany1081 Posts
My theory is, that if you don't positively reward the behavior he will revert into closeted nazi cosplayer and rattle at the doors of 4chan to find an audience again. | ||
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