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On March 30 2025 23:31 Sadist wrote: Oblade saying that federal workers make 40k more than the average american salary is super misleading. You need to compare equivalent jobs wtf
Generally, a financial specialist with an MBA, a skilled software engineer, etc etc that is good at what they do can make an additional 15% to 40% in private industry. You work for less because you are considered to be in a "guaranteed lifetime job".
There are plenty of super-skilled, super-smart, people amongst the 19M government employees. Generally, that group of people is underpaid relative to private industry.
All this said, we're talking about 19 million people. Sweeping generalizations even with the additional qualifications I've made are merely vague, sweeping generalizations. IMO, lots of good, hard working people are gonna get thoroughly fucked over by DOGE. Even with that, I think DOGE will be a big net positive.
Government employees need to start networking in the way privately employed people do because government employees no longer have a job for life.
On March 30 2025 23:31 Sadist wrote: Oblade saying that federal workers make 40k more than the average american salary is super misleading. You need to compare equivalent jobs wtf
Generally, a financial specialist with an MBA, a skilled software engineer, etc etc that is good at what they do can make an additional 15% to 40% in private industry. You work for less because you are considered to be in a "guaranteed lifetime job".
There are plenty of super-skilled, super-smart, people amongst the 19M government employees. Generally, that group of people is underpaid relative to private industry.
If it’s anything like the UK, aye this tracks. Lower base pay versus very solid job security and various solid benefits
There was plenty of data in 2023 and early 2024 indicating the USA was headed towards a recession. Obviously, this data is independent of who is President. Another piece of data pointing towards a recession is the domestic migration #s in FLorida the past 2 years. If the USA goes into a recession Trump will take an inordinate amount of blame. Contrast this with the brutal 1981 recession during Reagan's tenure. Did anyone blame "Reaganomics" ?
On March 30 2025 23:31 Sadist wrote: Oblade saying that federal workers make 40k more than the average american salary is super misleading. You need to compare equivalent jobs wtf
Generally, a financial specialist with an MBA, a skilled software engineer, etc etc that is good at what they do can make an additional 15% to 40% in private industry. You work for less because you are considered to be in a "guaranteed lifetime job".
There are plenty of super-skilled, super-smart, people amongst the 19M government employees. Generally, that group of people is underpaid relative to private industry.
If it’s anything like the UK, aye this tracks. Lower base pay versus very solid job security and various solid benefits
ya, the US government benefits are great... IF you know how to work the system. The premium amazing coverage takes a lot of manual work on the part of the employee. The Kaiser-Permanente type coverage is convenient, easy and also lousy.
On March 30 2025 23:31 Sadist wrote: Oblade saying that federal workers make 40k more than the average american salary is super misleading. You need to compare equivalent jobs wtf
Generally, a financial specialist with an MBA, a skilled software engineer, etc etc that is good at what they do can make an additional 15% to 40% in private industry. You work for less because you are considered to be in a "guaranteed lifetime job".
There are plenty of super-skilled, super-smart, people amongst the 19M government employees. Generally, that group of people is underpaid relative to private industry.
All this said, we're talking about 19 million people. Sweeping generalizations even with the additional qualifications I've made are merely vague, sweeping generalizations. IMO, lots of good, hard working people are gonna get thoroughly fucked over by DOGE. Even with that, I think DOGE will be a big net positive.
Government employees need to start networking in the way privately employed people do because government employees no longer have a job for life.
People are willing to trade salary for benefits/job security; take that away and it's just another private sector job but for the government which will have to be remunerated in a similar manner, i.e. things will get more expensive to run than they're now.
On March 30 2025 23:31 Sadist wrote: Oblade saying that federal workers make 40k more than the average american salary is super misleading. You need to compare equivalent jobs wtf
Generally, a financial specialist with an MBA, a skilled software engineer, etc etc that is good at what they do can make an additional 15% to 40% in private industry. You work for less because you are considered to be in a "guaranteed lifetime job".
There are plenty of super-skilled, super-smart, people amongst the 19M government employees. Generally, that group of people is underpaid relative to private industry.
All this said, we're talking about 19 million people. Sweeping generalizations even with the additional qualifications I've made are merely vague, sweeping generalizations. IMO, lots of good, hard working people are gonna get thoroughly fucked over by DOGE. Even with that, I think DOGE will be a big net positive.
Government employees need to start networking in the way privately employed people do because government employees no longer have a job for life.
People are willing to trade salary for benefits/job security; take that away and it's just another private sector job but for the government which will have to be remunerated in a similar manner, i.e. things will get more expensive to run than they're now.
If you look at the amazing success rate of those incredible SpaceX rockets how can you doubt the efficacy of Elon Musk's DOGE department?
On March 30 2025 23:31 Sadist wrote: Oblade saying that federal workers make 40k more than the average american salary is super misleading. You need to compare equivalent jobs wtf
Generally, a financial specialist with an MBA, a skilled software engineer, etc etc that is good at what they do can make an additional 15% to 40% in private industry. You work for less because you are considered to be in a "guaranteed lifetime job".
There are plenty of super-skilled, super-smart, people amongst the 19M government employees. Generally, that group of people is underpaid relative to private industry.
All this said, we're talking about 19 million people. Sweeping generalizations even with the additional qualifications I've made are merely vague, sweeping generalizations. IMO, lots of good, hard working people are gonna get thoroughly fucked over by DOGE. Even with that, I think DOGE will be a big net positive.
Government employees need to start networking in the way privately employed people do because government employees no longer have a job for life.
People are willing to trade salary for benefits/job security; take that away and it's just another private sector job but for the government which will have to be remunerated in a similar manner, i.e. things will get more expensive to run than they're now.
If you look at the amazing success rate of those incredible SpaceX rockets how can you doubt the efficacy of Elon Musk's DOGE department?
Because one is operated by literal rocket scientists and the other by a bunch of basement kids.
And that is before we get into the direct correlation between time Elon Musk spends on the company and how shit it is...
On March 30 2025 23:31 Sadist wrote: Oblade saying that federal workers make 40k more than the average american salary is super misleading. You need to compare equivalent jobs wtf
Generally, a financial specialist with an MBA, a skilled software engineer, etc etc that is good at what they do can make an additional 15% to 40% in private industry. You work for less because you are considered to be in a "guaranteed lifetime job".
There are plenty of super-skilled, super-smart, people amongst the 19M government employees. Generally, that group of people is underpaid relative to private industry.
All this said, we're talking about 19 million people. Sweeping generalizations even with the additional qualifications I've made are merely vague, sweeping generalizations. IMO, lots of good, hard working people are gonna get thoroughly fucked over by DOGE. Even with that, I think DOGE will be a big net positive.
Government employees need to start networking in the way privately employed people do because government employees no longer have a job for life.
People are willing to trade salary for benefits/job security; take that away and it's just another private sector job but for the government which will have to be remunerated in a similar manner, i.e. things will get more expensive to run than they're now.
If you look at the amazing success rate of those incredible SpaceX rockets how can you doubt the efficacy of Elon Musk's DOGE department?
Because one is operated by literal rocket scientists and the other by a bunch of basement kids. And that is before we get into the direct correlation between time Elon Musk spends on the company and how shit it is...
dude, its sarcasm. SpaceX blows up more rockets than Kellogg's has Corn Flakes. I think Elon is great, however, he makes a lot of mistakes. I think he'll do a good job with DOGE and in his tasks assigned to him by Trump. However, everyone should be skeptical due to his track record.
On March 30 2025 23:31 Sadist wrote: Oblade saying that federal workers make 40k more than the average american salary is super misleading. You need to compare equivalent jobs wtf
The disconnect between the composition of the federal workforce and the general workforce is its own problem that I've attempted to spell out.
It wasn't a problem for example in the 30s when the government scooped up the unemployed and unskilled to build things like the Hoover Dam, one of the great engineering feats of history. That's why despite huge opposition FDR could corral a big tent together that kept mostly Democrats in charge for 50-60 years. That's not what the federal government is now and fortunately there are still enough people NOT in government that they have the political capital to oppose using it as a perpetual cushy jobs program for a Democrat corporate-statist clique.
On March 30 2025 23:31 Sadist wrote: Oblade saying that federal workers make 40k more than the average american salary is super misleading. You need to compare equivalent jobs wtf
Generally, a financial specialist with an MBA, a skilled software engineer, etc etc that is good at what they do can make an additional 15% to 40% in private industry. You work for less because you are considered to be in a "guaranteed lifetime job".
There are plenty of super-skilled, super-smart, people amongst the 19M government employees. Generally, that group of people is underpaid relative to private industry.
All this said, we're talking about 19 million people. Sweeping generalizations even with the additional qualifications I've made are merely vague, sweeping generalizations. IMO, lots of good, hard working people are gonna get thoroughly fucked over by DOGE. Even with that, I think DOGE will be a big net positive.
Government employees need to start networking in the way privately employed people do because government employees no longer have a job for life.
People are willing to trade salary for benefits/job security; take that away and it's just another private sector job but for the government which will have to be remunerated in a similar manner, i.e. things will get more expensive to run than they're now.
If you look at the amazing success rate of those incredible SpaceX rockets how can you doubt the efficacy of Elon Musk's DOGE department?
Because one is operated by literal rocket scientists and the other by a bunch of basement kids. And that is before we get into the direct correlation between time Elon Musk spends on the company and how shit it is...
dude, its sarcasm. SpaceX blows up more rockets than Kellogg's has Corn Flakes. I think Elon is great, however, he makes a lot of mistakes. I think he'll do a good job with DOGE and in his tasks assigned to him by Trump. However, everyone should be skeptical due to his track record.
SpaceX blowing up rockets is generally a good thing. The rockets blowing up are test beds, not often ones with real cargo that are expected to succeed. They are basically doing what car manufactures do with crash tests and closed circuit testing. Just theirs happens in easy recording view.
It is an interesting thing to try to map out. Is it better to build something and test now or spend another year modelling and then testing it? If you can afford it doing both is likely the fastest way to progress since the modelling gets better data. That is what SpaceX is doing. Most others can't affording blowing test vehicles up for data and faster progression.
We will probably see less of this destructive testing in all industries as the simulation tools are improving a lot. Especially as their assumptions and data is tested and then run again and again for better basis.
To be honest, SpaceX is very stable on their main line of rockets. Safety and cadence of launch is better than any other historical rocket as far as I know. How much of that is due to Musk can easily be argued but it is a good company that isn't impacted by the CEO being a douche in its sales (compared to Tesla where it is a major factor). Trump and his foreign policy is probably going to do more to crater SpaceX international sales.
Though the Starlink subsidiary that drives that volume of space flights is likely to see reduced usage in the future due to him being a douche and thus people not trusting his service. But that is on government side, so still likely to be an upward trend.
On March 30 2025 23:31 Sadist wrote: Oblade saying that federal workers make 40k more than the average american salary is super misleading. You need to compare equivalent jobs wtf
Generally, a financial specialist with an MBA, a skilled software engineer, etc etc that is good at what they do can make an additional 15% to 40% in private industry. You work for less because you are considered to be in a "guaranteed lifetime job".
There are plenty of super-skilled, super-smart, people amongst the 19M government employees. Generally, that group of people is underpaid relative to private industry.
All this said, we're talking about 19 million people. Sweeping generalizations even with the additional qualifications I've made are merely vague, sweeping generalizations. IMO, lots of good, hard working people are gonna get thoroughly fucked over by DOGE. Even with that, I think DOGE will be a big net positive.
Government employees need to start networking in the way privately employed people do because government employees no longer have a job for life.
So, if you cut the no. 1 benefit of working for the government, you expect the good people to remain, for less pay?
Making the government run more efficiently is an extremely hard task, and Musik will fail. If smart people are given big budget cuts, what do you expect will happen?
I'll tell you some of what I know from having worked my whole career in the public sector:
The best people will jump ship, and many of them have crucial skills which the government will be forced to hire back, at market rate. You will do the same for more money.
Then, heads of departments etc. will make it impossible for the layer above to know who is working hard and who is doing nothing. Musk seems to kid himself that he can get around this by demanding bs. report emails etc, but he has no idea what he is up against.
If cuts are still made, they will be made where it hurts the top level the most. Essential functions, with iminent disasters and public outrage will go first. This is war, and job security is REALLY important for government officials. They will fight back with everything they have, and it will not be pretty.
On March 30 2025 23:31 Sadist wrote: Oblade saying that federal workers make 40k more than the average american salary is super misleading. You need to compare equivalent jobs wtf
Generally, a financial specialist with an MBA, a skilled software engineer, etc etc that is good at what they do can make an additional 15% to 40% in private industry. You work for less because you are considered to be in a "guaranteed lifetime job".
There are plenty of super-skilled, super-smart, people amongst the 19M government employees. Generally, that group of people is underpaid relative to private industry.
All this said, we're talking about 19 million people. Sweeping generalizations even with the additional qualifications I've made are merely vague, sweeping generalizations. IMO, lots of good, hard working people are gonna get thoroughly fucked over by DOGE. Even with that, I think DOGE will be a big net positive.
Government employees need to start networking in the way privately employed people do because government employees no longer have a job for life.
People are willing to trade salary for benefits/job security; take that away and it's just another private sector job but for the government which will have to be remunerated in a similar manner, i.e. things will get more expensive to run than they're now.
If you look at the amazing success rate of those incredible SpaceX rockets how can you doubt the efficacy of Elon Musk's DOGE department?
Because one is operated by literal rocket scientists and the other by a bunch of basement kids. And that is before we get into the direct correlation between time Elon Musk spends on the company and how shit it is...
dude, its sarcasm. SpaceX blows up more rockets than Kellogg's has Corn Flakes. I think Elon is great, however, he makes a lot of mistakes. I think he'll do a good job with DOGE and in his tasks assigned to him by Trump. However, everyone should be skeptical due to his track record.
SpaceX launches more rockets than the rest of the world combined and their success rate is 99% so not the best example. A better example would be the fact he’s going after park rangers and other government employees while Trump announces billions for a new fighter jet at a time modern wars are being fought with drones.
On March 31 2025 01:16 Yurie wrote: SpaceX blowing up rockets is generally a good thing. The rockets blowing up are test beds, not often ones with real cargo that are expected to succeed. They are basically doing what car manufactures do with crash tests and closed circuit testing. Just theirs happens in easy recording view.
It is an interesting thing to try to map out. Is it better to build something and test now or spend another year modelling and then testing it? If you can afford it doing both is likely the fastest way to progress since the modelling gets better data. That is what SpaceX is doing. Most others can't affording blowing test vehicles up for data and faster progression.
We will probably see less of this destructive testing in all industries as the simulation tools are improving a lot. Especially as their assumptions and data is tested and then run again and again for better basis.
To be honest, SpaceX is very stable on their main line of rockets. Safety and cadence of launch is better than any other historical rocket as far as I know. How much of that is due to Musk can easily be argued but it is a good company that isn't impacted by the CEO being a douche in its sales (compared to Tesla where it is a major factor). Trump and his foreign policy is probably going to do more to crater SpaceX international sales.
Though the Starlink subsidiary that drives that volume of space flights is likely to see reduced usage in the future due to him being a douche and thus people not trusting his service. But that is on government side, so still likely to be an upward trend.
He earned money through government contracts in the billions, didn‘t he ? Is testing rockets more important than cheap healthcare in the US ? What does it contribute to society ? That one day a bunch of rich people in good graces with the current administration can escape earth before society collapses on them from sheer neglect ?
Utopic to say the least as human physiology just isn‘t cut out for prolonged stays in space at 0G.
I‘d be willing to bet that NASA can run simulators accurate enough to make field testing obsolete.
The satellite business seems like the most important of the three. Maybe because it allows for worldwide espionage and whatever else it‘s capable of.
According to an article I can‘t find atm (I can go look for it) the Chinese are irritated by covert satellite activity. Believing that it’s just meant to provide internet access does seem a bit naive.
SpaceX makes its money by launching objects into space. MANY of these are spy satellites, a large fraction are commercial satellites and some part are science projects. There was a long period where SpaceX was cheapest but couldn't launch spy satellites due to not being certified for secret projects.
On the flip side NASA and similar agencies finance parts of the cost for the design of the rockets on top of buying the actual project results once it is done. This is a case where it is actually successful since it ended up saving them money. Most of these end up losing money.
Starlink makes money by providing internet to users in remote regions. Even if this one loses a bit of money it funnels a lot of launches into SpaceX making it have economy of scale. Since they also get nice deals on launch costs they can compete in their own area.
As for the money topic. If we should explore space is an interesting topic. Most of the stuff we find out doing this is pointless in a sense of humans having a better life 10 years from now. We know more about the universe but most projects just teaches us things of limited use on earth. (The space race did result in tons of useful devices. Havn't been the case recently as far as I know.)
Many satellites are useful. Weather forecast, fire spotting, GPS, maps etc are all useful techs. Probably a bunch more I forget about.
I see no project making it possible to live in space for any decent amount of people the next 30 years. Space colonies are much harder than underwater colonies and we don't do any of those.
Donald Trump has said there are “methods” – if not “plans” – to circumvent the constitutional limit preventing US presidents from serving three terms
And asked if he was just joking, as he and his supporters like to say whenever he floats anti-constitutional ideas, he said: “No, no, I’m not joking. I’m not joking.”
I guess the 80s "yuppy" started the "money is everything" trend. Yuppy = "young urban professional"
On March 31 2025 05:21 Yurie wrote: SpaceX makes its money by launching objects into space. MANY of these are spy satellites, a large fraction are commercial satellites ....
Here is Musk blackmailing NASA in real time. "You can tell its real because it looks fake"
As long as NASA keeps handing SpaceX billions, Musk will keep his mouth shut. He knows where all the bodies are buried. He knows where all the wasted 10s of billions of dollars have gone over the past 50 years within NASA. More importantly, he can prove it.
I'm a big subscriber to Candace Owens' recent turn of phrase: "One Nation Under Blackmail"
On March 31 2025 07:13 Uldridge wrote: How do you view Candace Owens, Jimmy?
If the fictional Dagny Taggart were made real... she'd be Candace Owens. As I said, she yaps a lot. I am worried for her safety. She keeps on talking and she'll be deader than Kennedy.
Also, its pretty fucking hilarious that the Daily Wire can not afford Candace and Brett. I hope they both make 87 bazillion dollars.
And asked if he was just joking, as he and his supporters like to say whenever he floats anti-constitutional ideas, he said: “No, no, I’m not joking. I’m not joking.”
What a completely unexpected turn of events. No one could have seen this coming!
On March 31 2025 07:13 Uldridge wrote: How do you view Candace Owens, Jimmy?
If the fictional Dagny Taggart were made real... she'd be Candace Owens. As I said, she yaps a lot. I am worried for her safety. She keeps on talking and she'll be deader than Kennedy.
Also, its pretty fucking hilarious that the Daily Wire can not afford Candace and Brett. I hope they both make 87 bazillion dollars.
Don't you think she represents an insidious facet of the misinformation stream? She yaps alot, that's for sure, we can agree on that. I haven't really considered her being in a precarious position. Hope she stays safe. You may hope she earns a bazillian dollars, I hope she gets deplatformed for sowing hate amongst people.
Do you think that's why you're worried for her safety?
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