EPTUS Politics Mega-thread - Page 4885
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
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Dan HH
Romania9198 Posts
On March 31 2025 07:25 Sadist wrote: I wonder if Trump is saying this to get the Signal texts out of the news. He's saying this because he was asked about it and it's what he's going to do. Are some of you still in the denial phase about what's going to happen over there? As an aside, what makes this even worse is that it's not done by some machiavellian evil geniuses but by the most pathetic cringelords in existence, Vance saying you have to have Greenland because "we can't just ignore the president's desires" is the sycophantic statement of the century. | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
I agree we need to take him serious. We need to triage though. | ||
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Taelshin
Canada420 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45534 Posts
On March 31 2025 16:45 Taelshin wrote: Dan HH worried about trump running for 3rd term meanwhile the country he's from just blocked a winning candidate from re running in a second election(legit or not who knows). Love to see it. This isn't exactly the Romanian Politics Mega-thread though. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26614 Posts
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KT_Elwood
Germany1146 Posts
"Stock market gonna boom! Not like Biden Economy!" -> Stock market RED "Stocks not important anymore!" Risking to to give up at least 6 european bases to "get Greenland" for strategic reasons... is so..fucking..dumb. Destroying the federal government .. so fucking dumb. Yes.. cut all the bells and whistles like transgender Drama class at a retirement home.. but the VA?.. Parkrangers? Education? Research? It's petty revenge of a wannabe billionaire towards working class people who made fun of him. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9198 Posts
On March 31 2025 16:45 Taelshin wrote: Dan HH worried about trump running for 3rd term meanwhile the country he's from just blocked a winning candidate from re running in a second election(legit or not who knows). Love to see it. I never claimed my country isn't shit so I fail to see the point of this whataboutism. Any legitimate criticism you might write about it (that one isn't one of them) will get me to nod along. The idea of a country as stupid as mine being an influential world power should be scary, and that seems to be the case at the moment. So I'm not sure how "the place you're from isn't great either" is supposed to ease anyone's worries. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17463 Posts
On March 31 2025 19:50 Dan HH wrote: I never claimed my country isn't shit so I fail to see the point of this whataboutism. Any legitimate criticism you might write about it (that one isn't one of them) will get me to nod along. The idea of a country as stupid as mine being an influential world power should be scary, and that seems to be the case at the moment. So I'm not sure how "the place you're from isn't great either" is supposed to ease anyone's worries. The best thing any one can do is set themselves up so they can work in multiple countries. At that point, select from a finite # of imperfect options. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26614 Posts
On March 31 2025 19:50 Dan HH wrote: I never claimed my country isn't shit so I fail to see the point of this whataboutism. Any legitimate criticism you might write about it (that one isn't one of them) will get me to nod along. The idea of a country as stupid as mine being an influential world power should be scary, and that seems to be the case at the moment. So I'm not sure how "the place you're from isn't great either" is supposed to ease anyone's worries. If anything it’s even more of an indictment on the state of the States than the other way round. Not necessarily Romania specifically but other countries around the place, even those with less-than-stellar reputations for untrammelled democracy, or a lack of corruption can get their shit together on things like barring coup inciters from running for office again. For example. Btw I think I said so at the time, but your general primer of Romanian politics in the Euro thread was much appreciated. That said, while a little more au fait with the basics, don’t feel qualified to comment on the specifics here. IIRC you yourself didn’t want him barred for fear of making a martyr if memory serves? Do you think that’s been the case thus far? | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17463 Posts
On March 31 2025 21:27 WombaT wrote: even those with less-than-stellar reputations for untrammelled democracy, or a lack of corruption can get their shit together on things like barring coup inciters from running for office again. For example. it is debatable whether or not Trump incited a police escorted tour of the white house. If the USA is so horrible every American should be fleeing to Canada and Mexico the way everyone fled East Germany. And, that is not happening. Both Canadians and Mexicans, on a large scale, work very hard to become eligible to work in the USA. Moving from Canada to the USA is still common. To get an idea how common it is: Canada's biggest bank has a guide on how to move to the USA. https://www.rbcroyalbank.com/en-ca/my-money-matters/goals-aspirations/travel-and-cross-border/travelling-and-shopping-in-the-us/moving-to-the-u-s-from-canada-part-1-the-good-the-bad-and-the-taxes/ People are voting with their feet and proving the USA is a great nation. | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
On March 31 2025 23:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote: it is debatable whether or not Trump incited a police escorted tour of the white house. If the USA is so horrible every American should be fleeing to Canada and Mexico the way everyone fled East Germany. And, that is not happening. Both Canadians and Mexicans, on a large scale, work very hard to become eligible to work in the USA. Moving from Canada to the USA is still common. To get an idea how common it is: Canada's biggest bank has a guide on how to move to the USA. https://www.rbcroyalbank.com/en-ca/my-money-matters/goals-aspirations/travel-and-cross-border/travelling-and-shopping-in-the-us/moving-to-the-u-s-from-canada-part-1-the-good-the-bad-and-the-taxes/ People are voting with their feet and proving the USA is a great nation. Leaving the US only leaves the horrible people to run a super power with nuclear weapons and the most powerful military. Running to Canada isnt going to save you from the US if shit gets bad. Theres only a few places globally where you might be safe. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26614 Posts
On March 31 2025 23:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote: it is debatable whether or not Trump incited a police escorted tour of the white house. If the USA is so horrible every American should be fleeing to Canada and Mexico the way everyone fled East Germany. And, that is not happening. Both Canadians and Mexicans, on a large scale, work very hard to become eligible to work in the USA. Moving from Canada to the USA is still common. To get an idea how common it is: Canada's biggest bank has a guide on how to move to the USA. https://www.rbcroyalbank.com/en-ca/my-money-matters/goals-aspirations/travel-and-cross-border/travelling-and-shopping-in-the-us/moving-to-the-u-s-from-canada-part-1-the-good-the-bad-and-the-taxes/ People are voting with their feet and proving the USA is a great nation. It’s really not especially all that debatable that they tried to lean on electors and put pressure on certifying the election. I’m sure Nazi Germany was perfectly swell for some folks, and many an Austrian was quite happy to get incorporated within it, or basically pick any other slightly less inflammatory example. Nations can be a better option for people for all sorts of reasons. If you’re dirt poor in a poor nation, being at the bottom rung of a rich one can be an upgrade. If you’re a skilled worker with in-demand attributes, you may be able to earn considerably more in another. These can still both be true even if the States is seemingly deciding to row up shit creek and throw away the paddle when they get there. | ||
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Vivax
22297 Posts
On March 31 2025 23:07 Sadist wrote: Leaving the US only leaves the horrible people to run a super power with nuclear weapons and the most powerful military. Running to Canada isnt going to save you from the US if shit gets bad. Theres only a few places globally where you might be safe. Greenland is not going to be that. The EU imo is currently debating whether DJT wants to erect a casino or a gulag there. Does stationing missiles closer to the north pole shorten the flight route maybe ? Nah, it‘s probably just to dig for shiny things. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7165 Posts
I'm so glad i don't live in the USA. Pretty tough when the government wants to illegalize your existence. | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany1146 Posts
->"Because it lowers the risk of being bombed by the US" US has incredible potential and showed that for decades.. giving in to fear, oligarchs and the cringelords of sociopathic "my father's lawyer will compensate you if you don't tell your parents" types... the potential is dwindling. Market still looks good. My plan was to export hazardous and radioactive waste from the EU, because Trump will bust the EPA and how you gonna be regulated is depending on how much Trump Coin you HODL. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26614 Posts
On March 31 2025 23:52 Luolis wrote: https://apnews.com/article/transgender-visibility-trump-orders-2f949cdab2673e3becdfc3d213158aa9 I'm so glad i don't live in the USA. Pretty tough when the government wants to illegalize your existence. I imagine that’s a tough part, but that huge swathes of the actual population you’ll engage with on a day to day feel this too is that bit tougher | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17463 Posts
On March 31 2025 23:25 WombaT wrote: Nations can be a better option for people for all sorts of reasons. If you’re dirt poor in a poor nation, being at the bottom rung of a rich one can be an upgrade. If you’re a skilled worker with in-demand attributes, you may be able to earn considerably more in another. I'd say it is an anti-jewish stereotype that jews are leaving Canada for New York "for the money". The antisemitism in Toronto is increasing. The Toronto police recently did a "we're sorry you feel that way" apology when a police officer said during a talk show in a very thoughtful manner that it was great that October 7th happened because it is causing an increased interest in islam. Jews and Jewish money are flooding out of Toronto. The city is collapsing in real time. The city is doing a bad job and people are leaving for New York. meh. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26614 Posts
On April 01 2025 00:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I'd say it is an anti-jewish stereotype that jews are leaving Canada for New York "for the money". The antisemitism in Toronto is increasing. The Toronto police recently did a "we're sorry you feel that way" apology when a police officer said during a talk show in a very thoughtful manner that it was great that October 7th happened because it is causing an increased interest in islam. Jews and Jewish money are flooding out of Toronto. The city is collapsing in real time. I’d say it’s completely fucking irrelevant as at no point did I refer to Jewish people, and frankly you should retract that bullshit accusation I actually had folks like healthcare workers in mind, who can earn more bank within the US system than in their own locales, despite the US system being a shitshow for many who rely on it. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17463 Posts
On April 01 2025 00:11 WombaT wrote: I’d say it’s completely fucking irrelevant as at no point did I refer to Jewish people, and frankly you should retract that bullshit accusation I actually had folks like healthcare workers in mind, who can earn more bank within the US system than in their own locales, despite the US system being a shitshow for many who rely on it. you left your comment wide open and saying this. Nations can be a better option for people for all sorts of reasons. so i'm explaining why some people are leaving Canada's biggest city for New York. This entire "its only for the money" claim is, at best, a vast oversimplification. Canadians that move do so through a carefully planned and precisely executed process. They do quite a bit of research before moving. At the end of it all, they've decided USA > Canada. It is great the Wayne Gretzky says he loves Canada. Where has Mr. Gretzky lived since 1988? Where does that great Canadian patriot Kevin O'Leary live? Over the last 25 years where has the current Canadian PM lived? | ||
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