• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:17
CEST 08:17
KST 15:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun11[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists21[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) SC2 INu's Battles#15 <BO.9 2Matches> WardiTV Spring Cup RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event SEL Masters #6 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
Pros React To: Leta vs Tulbo (ASL S21, Ro.8) ASL21 General Discussion [TOOL] Starcraft Chat Translator JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review Missed out on ASL tickets - what are my options?
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary [ASL21] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2046 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 469

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 467 468 469 470 471 5710 Next
Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting!

NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.


If you have any questions, comments, concern, or feedback regarding the USPMT, then please use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/510156-us-politics-thread
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 13 2018 17:45 GMT
#9361
On July 14 2018 02:39 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 02:34 NewSunshine wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:27 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:23 Plansix wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:20 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:06 Plansix wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:04 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
On July 14 2018 01:58 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 01:55 m4ini wrote:
On July 14 2018 01:52 xDaunt wrote:
[quote]

I don't see what's wrong with Trump's statement. He's clearly stating that Russia invaded Ukraine because it knew that Obama was a weak president, and that Putin wouldn't have tried it on Trump's watch. I think it goes without saying that everyone knows that Trump has far more resolve than Obama.


How twisted of a mind would you need to have to actually believe that?

Russia would've invaded Ukraine either way, because there's jack shit the US can do about it. To argue otherwise is disgustingly disingenuous. Trump would've done nothing different, or do you actually think someone believes that he'd go to war with russia?

I don't really know whether Russia would have done it on Trump's watch or if Trump would have responded militarily. All that I am saying is that Trump is clearly tougher than Obama.

Also, one thing to keep in mind is that Obama likely precipitated the Russian invasion of Ukraine with his meddling in Ukrainian politics. So Russia's invasion of the Ukraine wasn't simply about Obama perceived weakness to the extent that was part of Russia's calculation.

What the fuck are you talking about?? You are literally regurgitating Russian propaganda about American meddling in Ukraine perpetrating the Russian invasion of Ukraine. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Dauntless like to regurgitate propaganda for all sorts of sources when it comes to his political views. Many of us still remember the day when he unknowingly posted the 14 words in this thread.

Apparently you still don't understand what that conversation was about.

You getting hoodwinked by a bunch of white nationalists into propagating their hateful, but cleaned up for the public, bullshit? Because that is literally what happened, Vox Day rehashed white nationalist propaganda and you reposted it thinking it was something new. He was paid to do it too.

Here's How Breitbart And Milo Smuggled Nazi and White Nationalist Ideas Into The Mainstream

We have read the emails. You got played.

Like I said, you don't know what that conversation was about.

It seems to me like it's awfully easy to just repeat "you don't know what you're talking about", especially when you don't then explain why. Not terribly convincing. Most of us remember what happened.

Yes, I'm sure y'all have certain memories and impressions of what happened, but I highly doubt that most of you really understood what was actually being discussed and the point that was being made. And I don't really care to revisit it given that y'all aren't up to the conversation.

I'm sure you don't care to revisit it, but I don't think it's for the reasons you claim here.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
July 13 2018 17:45 GMT
#9362
I dunno, it doesn't seem like they're missing the point. If you want to defend yourself, start doing so instead of telling people "uh uh you just don't get it"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 13 2018 17:45 GMT
#9363
On July 14 2018 02:41 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 02:39 NewSunshine wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:37 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:35 Womwomwom wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:30 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:16 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On July 14 2018 01:58 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 01:55 m4ini wrote:
On July 14 2018 01:52 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 01:46 m4ini wrote:
[quote]

He literally said that.


I don't see what's wrong with Trump's statement. He's clearly stating that Russia invaded Ukraine because it knew that Obama was a weak president, and that Putin wouldn't have tried it on Trump's watch. I think it goes without saying that everyone knows that Trump has far more resolve than Obama.


How twisted of a mind would you need to have to actually believe that?

Russia would've invaded Ukraine either way, because there's jack shit the US can do about it. To argue otherwise is disgustingly disingenuous. Trump would've done nothing different, or do you actually think someone believes that he'd go to war with russia?

I don't really know whether Russia would have done it on Trump's watch or if Trump would have responded militarily. All that I am saying is that Trump is clearly tougher than Obama.

Also, one thing to keep in mind is that Obama likely precipitated the Russian invasion of Ukraine with his meddling in Ukrainian politics. So Russia's invasion of the Ukraine wasn't simply about Obama perceived weakness to the extent that was part of Russia's calculation.

I don't think tough is the right word. Erratic more like. Sure there are things he's followed through on (tariffs) but there are also things he's rolled over on (tariffs). There isn't a whole lot of rhyme or reason to his strategies, and people who support him have a tendency to connect the dots as the see fit.

Fewer Presidents have gotten less done in their first year or so in office than Trump. Seems like the guy is pretty impotent.

Again, how many presidents have had to deal with the resistance -- from day one -- that Trump has had to deal with? The only president that immediately comes to mind without researching it is Lincoln (and he was obviously in a worse position). Let's see what happens when the new congress shows up in January.


The guy has the presidency, a majority in the House and a majority in the Senate and arguably a majority on the Supreme Court. What resistance is there really? Blame the Republican Party if they can't pass anything, there are enough red state Democrats that are clearing willing to work with the administration.


That's exactly my point. Trump was at odds with a huge chunk of the GOP when he was elected, and that's before we consider the Democrats or the madness that is the Russian conspiracy stuff.

Rofl, how can you still parrot this after the press conference you linked us to today? There's literally a growing pile of evidence that the conspiracy is real.


When I talk about the "Russian conspiracy stuff," I'm referring to the allegation that Trump colluded with Russians or is otherwise a Russian tool. I have never really doubted that the Russians engaged in various espionage activities during the last election.

But he son admitted to having a meeting with someone who has strong connections to the Russian government. And a bunch of Russian oligarchs attending his inaugural ball. And we don’t know where a whole bunch of money from the Trump inauguration fund went.

There is a lot of smoke out there that someone did something shady.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
July 13 2018 17:47 GMT
#9364
On July 14 2018 01:54 Leporello wrote:

Tip of the iceburg.
Manafort trial in 2 weeks.
WikiLeaks and Roger Stone indictment imminent.

And I'm guessing that Congressman is the "honorable" traitor, Rohrabacher.

edit: Maybe you all haven't heard about today's new indictments against "Guccifer 2.0", which is actually a collection of GRU agents. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4598929-Netyksho-Et-Al-Indictment.html

Looks like we are getting closer and closer to Americans begging Russians for information the Russians stole.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
July 13 2018 17:50 GMT
#9365
On July 14 2018 02:45 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 02:41 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:39 NewSunshine wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:37 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:35 Womwomwom wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:30 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:16 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On July 14 2018 01:58 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 01:55 m4ini wrote:
On July 14 2018 01:52 xDaunt wrote:
[quote]

I don't see what's wrong with Trump's statement. He's clearly stating that Russia invaded Ukraine because it knew that Obama was a weak president, and that Putin wouldn't have tried it on Trump's watch. I think it goes without saying that everyone knows that Trump has far more resolve than Obama.


How twisted of a mind would you need to have to actually believe that?

Russia would've invaded Ukraine either way, because there's jack shit the US can do about it. To argue otherwise is disgustingly disingenuous. Trump would've done nothing different, or do you actually think someone believes that he'd go to war with russia?

I don't really know whether Russia would have done it on Trump's watch or if Trump would have responded militarily. All that I am saying is that Trump is clearly tougher than Obama.

Also, one thing to keep in mind is that Obama likely precipitated the Russian invasion of Ukraine with his meddling in Ukrainian politics. So Russia's invasion of the Ukraine wasn't simply about Obama perceived weakness to the extent that was part of Russia's calculation.

I don't think tough is the right word. Erratic more like. Sure there are things he's followed through on (tariffs) but there are also things he's rolled over on (tariffs). There isn't a whole lot of rhyme or reason to his strategies, and people who support him have a tendency to connect the dots as the see fit.

Fewer Presidents have gotten less done in their first year or so in office than Trump. Seems like the guy is pretty impotent.

Again, how many presidents have had to deal with the resistance -- from day one -- that Trump has had to deal with? The only president that immediately comes to mind without researching it is Lincoln (and he was obviously in a worse position). Let's see what happens when the new congress shows up in January.


The guy has the presidency, a majority in the House and a majority in the Senate and arguably a majority on the Supreme Court. What resistance is there really? Blame the Republican Party if they can't pass anything, there are enough red state Democrats that are clearing willing to work with the administration.


That's exactly my point. Trump was at odds with a huge chunk of the GOP when he was elected, and that's before we consider the Democrats or the madness that is the Russian conspiracy stuff.

Rofl, how can you still parrot this after the press conference you linked us to today? There's literally a growing pile of evidence that the conspiracy is real.


When I talk about the "Russian conspiracy stuff," I'm referring to the allegation that Trump colluded with Russians or is otherwise a Russian tool. I have never really doubted that the Russians engaged in various espionage activities during the last election.

But he son admitted to having a meeting with someone who has strong connections to the Russian government. And a bunch of Russian oligarchs attending his inaugural ball. And we don’t know where a whole bunch of money from the Trump inauguration fund went.

There is a lot of smoke out there that someone did something shady.


I mean shit, Roger Stone even had this jem:

[image loading]

Gee, I think they're just sharing some secret baking recipes here and not some sensitive political information.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
July 13 2018 17:53 GMT
#9366
On July 14 2018 02:50 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 02:45 Plansix wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:41 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:39 NewSunshine wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:37 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:35 Womwomwom wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:30 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:16 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On July 14 2018 01:58 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 01:55 m4ini wrote:
[quote]

How twisted of a mind would you need to have to actually believe that?

Russia would've invaded Ukraine either way, because there's jack shit the US can do about it. To argue otherwise is disgustingly disingenuous. Trump would've done nothing different, or do you actually think someone believes that he'd go to war with russia?

I don't really know whether Russia would have done it on Trump's watch or if Trump would have responded militarily. All that I am saying is that Trump is clearly tougher than Obama.

Also, one thing to keep in mind is that Obama likely precipitated the Russian invasion of Ukraine with his meddling in Ukrainian politics. So Russia's invasion of the Ukraine wasn't simply about Obama perceived weakness to the extent that was part of Russia's calculation.

I don't think tough is the right word. Erratic more like. Sure there are things he's followed through on (tariffs) but there are also things he's rolled over on (tariffs). There isn't a whole lot of rhyme or reason to his strategies, and people who support him have a tendency to connect the dots as the see fit.

Fewer Presidents have gotten less done in their first year or so in office than Trump. Seems like the guy is pretty impotent.

Again, how many presidents have had to deal with the resistance -- from day one -- that Trump has had to deal with? The only president that immediately comes to mind without researching it is Lincoln (and he was obviously in a worse position). Let's see what happens when the new congress shows up in January.


The guy has the presidency, a majority in the House and a majority in the Senate and arguably a majority on the Supreme Court. What resistance is there really? Blame the Republican Party if they can't pass anything, there are enough red state Democrats that are clearing willing to work with the administration.


That's exactly my point. Trump was at odds with a huge chunk of the GOP when he was elected, and that's before we consider the Democrats or the madness that is the Russian conspiracy stuff.

Rofl, how can you still parrot this after the press conference you linked us to today? There's literally a growing pile of evidence that the conspiracy is real.


When I talk about the "Russian conspiracy stuff," I'm referring to the allegation that Trump colluded with Russians or is otherwise a Russian tool. I have never really doubted that the Russians engaged in various espionage activities during the last election.

But he son admitted to having a meeting with someone who has strong connections to the Russian government. And a bunch of Russian oligarchs attending his inaugural ball. And we don’t know where a whole bunch of money from the Trump inauguration fund went.

There is a lot of smoke out there that someone did something shady.


I mean shit, Roger Stone even had this jem:

[image loading]

Gee, I think they're just sharing some secret baking recipes here and not some sensitive political information.

Where is this from?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-13 18:01:36
July 13 2018 17:59 GMT
#9367
On July 14 2018 02:53 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 02:50 Womwomwom wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:45 Plansix wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:41 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:39 NewSunshine wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:37 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:35 Womwomwom wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:30 xDaunt wrote:
On July 14 2018 02:16 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On July 14 2018 01:58 xDaunt wrote:
[quote]
I don't really know whether Russia would have done it on Trump's watch or if Trump would have responded militarily. All that I am saying is that Trump is clearly tougher than Obama.

Also, one thing to keep in mind is that Obama likely precipitated the Russian invasion of Ukraine with his meddling in Ukrainian politics. So Russia's invasion of the Ukraine wasn't simply about Obama perceived weakness to the extent that was part of Russia's calculation.

I don't think tough is the right word. Erratic more like. Sure there are things he's followed through on (tariffs) but there are also things he's rolled over on (tariffs). There isn't a whole lot of rhyme or reason to his strategies, and people who support him have a tendency to connect the dots as the see fit.

Fewer Presidents have gotten less done in their first year or so in office than Trump. Seems like the guy is pretty impotent.

Again, how many presidents have had to deal with the resistance -- from day one -- that Trump has had to deal with? The only president that immediately comes to mind without researching it is Lincoln (and he was obviously in a worse position). Let's see what happens when the new congress shows up in January.


The guy has the presidency, a majority in the House and a majority in the Senate and arguably a majority on the Supreme Court. What resistance is there really? Blame the Republican Party if they can't pass anything, there are enough red state Democrats that are clearing willing to work with the administration.


That's exactly my point. Trump was at odds with a huge chunk of the GOP when he was elected, and that's before we consider the Democrats or the madness that is the Russian conspiracy stuff.

Rofl, how can you still parrot this after the press conference you linked us to today? There's literally a growing pile of evidence that the conspiracy is real.


When I talk about the "Russian conspiracy stuff," I'm referring to the allegation that Trump colluded with Russians or is otherwise a Russian tool. I have never really doubted that the Russians engaged in various espionage activities during the last election.

But he son admitted to having a meeting with someone who has strong connections to the Russian government. And a bunch of Russian oligarchs attending his inaugural ball. And we don’t know where a whole bunch of money from the Trump inauguration fund went.

There is a lot of smoke out there that someone did something shady.


I mean shit, Roger Stone even had this jem:

[image loading]

Gee, I think they're just sharing some secret baking recipes here and not some sensitive political information.

Where is this from?


My bad, I remembered this incorrectly. Its from here and the person talking to Guccifer 2.0 isn't Stone but a Republican lobbyist. Either way, Roger Stone had contact with Guccifer 2.0 during the election and you'd have to ask why he'd be talking with someone like that if he wasn't ethically compromised.
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-13 18:15:50
July 13 2018 18:12 GMT
#9368
On July 14 2018 02:47 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 01:54 Leporello wrote:
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1017812194136911874
Tip of the iceburg.
Manafort trial in 2 weeks.
WikiLeaks and Roger Stone indictment imminent.

And I'm guessing that Congressman is the "honorable" traitor, Rohrabacher.

edit: Maybe you all haven't heard about today's new indictments against "Guccifer 2.0", which is actually a collection of GRU agents. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4598929-Netyksho-Et-Al-Indictment.html

Looks like we are getting closer and closer to Americans begging Russians for information the Russians stole.



Here's a buried lede in the indictments:

Link:

On or about August 15, 2016, the Conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, received a request for stolen documents from a candidate for the US Congress. The Conspirators responded using the Guccifer 2.0 persona and sent the candidate stolen documents related to the candidate's opponent.

There's your fucking collusion.

My guess is Matt Gaetz, the most vocal in calling for Trump to fire Mueller. Gaetz is also buddy-buddy with Roger Stone.

Also appears Ron DeSantis used some as well, see comment from user aafarensis with the link. Also, this WSJ story from 2017: "How Alleged Russian Hacker Teamed Up With Florida GOP Operative"

The hacking spree that upended the presidential election wasn’t limited to Democratic National Committee memos and Clinton-aide emails posted on websites. The hacker also privately sent Democratic voter-turnout analyses to a Republican political operative in Florida named Aaron Nevins.

So connecting dots here: Guccifer (Russians) hack DCCC/DNC info in Florida. Roger Stone acts as POC for Guccifer, and has them give the info to Nevins. Nevins then distributes the hacked documents to DeSantis and Gaetz. My guess is that Gaetz is the one mentioned in the indictment given it says "candidate" not "incumbent" or "sitting Congressman".

Then again, it could be Nunes. Which would explain A LOT.

EDIT: Link shows up while writing, but not after posting. Weird. Lemme try down here:
//twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1017805935400706052


Call me crazy but this is a hell of a coincidence. Remember Trump saying, "Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing"? That was July 27, 2016.

Now look at this line on pages 7-8 of the indictment:

For example, on or about July 27, 2016, the Conspirators attempted after hours to spearphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clinton's personal office. At or around the same time, they also targeted seventy-six email addresses at the domain for the Clinton Campaign.

"US intelligence agencies concluded that the accounts were hacked as part of a wide-ranging operation ordered by Putin to damage Clinton’s bid for the presidency and assist Trump’s campaign."

Wonder what the Greenwald crowd will cling to now, now that the "no formal evidence it was Russia that hacked the DNC" narrative is dead.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 13 2018 18:15 GMT
#9369
Anyone wanna speculate on who the candidate for Congress was?
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
July 13 2018 18:17 GMT
#9370
When someone (probably a reporter) breaks who it was, they are going to be up shit creek. Impeach and jail them.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
July 13 2018 18:21 GMT
#9371
On July 14 2018 03:15 Mohdoo wrote:
Anyone wanna speculate on who the candidate for Congress was?

Rohrabacher, maybe? "Putin's favorite Congressman?"
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 13 2018 18:21 GMT
#9372
Just an aside but I just wanted to say that I just started listening to the hearing yesterday and holy shit... what a fucking shit show. It is straight up one of the most embarrassing things I have ever seen. I have no respect for any of these people.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 13 2018 18:22 GMT
#9373
On July 14 2018 03:15 Mohdoo wrote:
Anyone wanna speculate on who the candidate for Congress was?

not I. I'd rather just wait for the evidence to come out.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-13 18:28:18
July 13 2018 18:24 GMT
#9374
On July 14 2018 02:34 xDaunt wrote:
Obama had a democrat congress and senate on day 1. So yeah, try again.


Trump... has... that... too?

He was handed the best legislative plate a President could possibly ask for. That his own incompetence turned the party against him is not a point in his favour.

You guys could probably literally kill every liberal in the US and you'd still feel victimised because it took so many bullets to kill them all.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 13 2018 18:33 GMT
#9375
--- Nuked ---
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 13 2018 18:35 GMT
#9376
On July 14 2018 03:33 JimmiC wrote:
Not really, it is not like all the republicans even like him let alone agree with him

I can't help but feel that maybe there's a reason for that.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 13 2018 18:40 GMT
#9377
--- Nuked ---
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
July 13 2018 18:48 GMT
#9378
On July 14 2018 03:40 JimmiC wrote:
For sure but it is an odd time in politics. I mean If you supported Bernie I don't know how you could support Hillary and vice versa. There is so much of a difference even within the parties themselves.
Because sometimes the other option is even worse.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 13 2018 18:50 GMT
#9379
--- Nuked ---
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
July 13 2018 18:57 GMT
#9380
On July 14 2018 03:50 JimmiC wrote:
I mean it so widely spread in each party that I think there is almost more of a difference between Bernie and Hilary then there was between Hilary and the Donald.
Look at what is happening in the US and between the US and the world and tell me that again with a strait face...

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Prev 1 467 468 469 470 471 5710 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 43m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 143
ProTech126
Livibee 58
StarCraft: Brood War
Mind 1209
Hm[arnc] 314
Pusan 186
Bale 26
ZergMaN 17
yabsab 7
Icarus 6
Dota 2
monkeys_forever686
NeuroSwarm171
League of Legends
JimRising 717
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1307
Other Games
summit1g7186
WinterStarcraft567
C9.Mang0528
Sick156
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick553
BasetradeTV201
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream132
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1059
• Stunt467
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 43m
Escore
3h 43m
INu's Battles
4h 43m
Classic vs ByuN
SHIN vs ByuN
OSC
6h 43m
Big Brain Bouts
9h 43m
Replay Cast
17h 43m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
RSL Revival
1d 3h
Classic vs GgMaChine
Rogue vs Maru
WardiTV Invitational
1d 4h
IPSL
1d 9h
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
[ Show More ]
BSL
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs TriGGeR
NightMare vs Solar
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
2 days
IPSL
2 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Patches Events
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
GSL
5 days
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
6 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-29
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.