EPTMusk is not interested in driving Twitter out of business.
So, we shall see what he does and whether it lets Twitter grow.
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gobbledydook
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Musk is not interested in driving Twitter out of business. So, we shall see what he does and whether it lets Twitter grow. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
Change from the top does not work without employee buy-in at tech companies. If you don't have buy-in, you get low adoption rates, and high attrition if the policy is bad enough. Right now, there's a ton of mobility for engineers between the various tech companies. Good luck to Musk, I don't think his personality is going to be able to effect the change. | ||
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Doc.Rivers
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Gahlo
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Gorsameth
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
On April 27 2022 06:08 BlackJack wrote: The Theranos-Musk comparison was made a few months ago in the Trading/investing thread by Manit0u. It’s also frequently made by popular YouTuber https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderf00t When someone is called a complete fraud or conman it’s hard to know that the person saying it means to narrowly apply it to one attribute about the person like their branding. Ah Thunderfoot’s still going eh? I’d agree such a claim by itself would lead to confusion over what’s meant, but within this thread I thought posters were pretty clear over what specific aspects were smoke and mirrors. It’s a useful marketing tactic because any criticism of Musk on certain corners of the internet gets the ‘he’s saving our species’ riposte. Billionaires in general aren’t exactly popular this thread but a Jeff Bezos I don’t recall being called a fraud, he’s just the guy who started Amazon and is ungodly wealthy. Many other epithets mind! It confuses/amuses me in equal measure that a certain type of folk have Bill Gates at the centre of every conspiracy like embedding chips in vaccines, but it’s Musk’s companies who stuck chips in the brains of monkeys. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46692 Posts
On April 27 2022 18:10 Gorsameth wrote: So it might be as some suspected, delay delay delay so that they can forgive the debt right before the mid-terms and have people actually remember it happened, I think that's a politically smart move for Biden, as it'll be fresher in the minds of voters, and it'll certainly help relieve the financial burden for many people (although I wish there could be more fundamental, systemic changes to student loans/debt, but those would need Congressional support). | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
On April 27 2022 08:44 plasmidghost wrote: Ever since the news broke about Musk potentially taking over Twitter, every trans person I know on there, myself included, has had abuse, slurs, harassment, and actual threats of violence, assault, murder, and genocide thrown against us by thousands of Twitter accounts saying that Elon Musk will ensure that they never receive punishment That sucks but is entirely predictable. Stay safe as ever! Certainly in corners of my Facebook feed folks are excited with the prospect of saying whatever they want. This is what gets people excited with promises of unrestricted free speech. I don’t feel restricted in articulating my thoughts much if at all and I’m not interested in spreading bile, so I’m not gaining anything here bar the potential to run into more obnoxious behaviour. My worry is that Musk has staked so much money, and essentially locked himself into a corner promising unfettered free speech that he’ll think he has to deliver that, with all it entails. Alternatively once he’s in the building of the company he’s bought he realises/is convinced of the value of at the very least moderating harassment and genuine hate speech. Best case scenario I suppose is Musk oversees a better balance between moderating hateful shit, and better transparency/tools when it comes to how Twitter currently moderates certain things/flags legitimate stories as false etc. I have zero idea, I think the actual mechanics of running such platforms are considerably more complex than people from the outside looking in think, so Musk may change tack with exposure. On the flip side he might put his mouth where his money is and create an unregulated free for all. Hard to know at this stage | ||
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EnDeR_
Spain2958 Posts
On April 27 2022 13:46 Doc.Rivers wrote: Looks like Biden is serious about unilaterally canceling student loans, i.e. undoing and failing to carry out congressional statute. I've said before that I oppose the move on separation of powers grounds, but at the same time I would benefit in a big way. It would be interesting to see how such a move would play out in the courts. I just can't see the Supreme Court letting it slide if it gets challenged in the courts. https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1519021544248336384 If conservative-leaning courts strike down the EO to cancel student debt, you have now created actual motivation to vote dem for a large number of people. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On April 27 2022 08:44 plasmidghost wrote: Ever since the news broke about Musk potentially taking over Twitter, every trans person I know on there, myself included, has had abuse, slurs, harassment, and actual threats of violence, assault, murder, and genocide thrown against us by thousands of Twitter accounts saying that Elon Musk will ensure that they never receive punishment Rough, and it shows that current twitter rules are already lacking, with or without Elon Musk (given that he's not in charge yet). | ||
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Doc.Rivers
United States404 Posts
On April 27 2022 19:51 EnDeR_ wrote: If conservative-leaning courts strike down the EO to cancel student debt, you have now created actual motivation to vote dem for a large number of people. That may be biden's pre-midterms political ploy - do something that's unconstitutional but is a policy outcome his base wants, and then blame everything on the judges who struck it down. Or maybe he'll do it close enough to the midterms that the judges won't strike it down until afterwards. | ||
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WombaT
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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Husyelt
United States839 Posts
Cancelling all debt, without a backup plan… How is that not just going to hit every right wing talking point known to man? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
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On April 28 2022 06:00 Husyelt wrote: Wouldn’t a more popular move for Biden to do > to cease interest on student loans, all new and old? And maybe for the more progressives he can forgive all debt passed the original cost before inflation went into overdrive. Cancelling all debt, without a backup plan… How is that not just going to hit every right wing talking point known to man? Can Biden do all of that unilaterally? I thought there were limits to what he can do with EOs, with respect to dealing with student debt, before needing Congress to pull their own weight (which they can't do, with the current Congress). I'd love to see Biden do as much as possible, and use it to push the narrative that electing a few more Democrats to Congress might actually lead to greater systemic changes on this front. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On April 28 2022 06:00 Doc.Rivers wrote: Not sure that January 6th provides a good argument to justify random unconstitutional acts. January 6th is really not the ultimate sword & shield of political argument that dems imagine it to be. If you're referring to Jimmy going to the diner with his grandma on January 6th last year, maybe yeah, that's not a great hoist for a petard. However, most people are referring to that time Trump and a chunk of Republicans in Congress encouraged a violent storming of the nation's Capitol to overturn the results of an election that was decidedly never stolen, with no evidence at any point to corroborate the lie that drove people to attack Congress. What kind of example do you think that sets? Republicans have been awfully quiet in talking about it, it's been over a year. They still want to pretend they have any kind of moral authority whatsoever, on anything, and they don't. They ripped up the book. As Republicans are so fond of saying, don't be upset if people give it back to you. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46692 Posts
On April 28 2022 06:48 JimmiC wrote: Its also a wedge issue that is very popular with recent grads and really unpopular with the skilled trades and non college work force. Wasnt 10k forgiveness his campaign promise? Maybe something like that is more doable without the downside of having stories about dentists and doctors who make 500k a year getting 200k forgiven. Im not sure the tax implications of the loans in the US but hear people who do not need them will take them and invest it as the loan repayment does not start until 6 months after grad and then you get tax benifits on the repayment. I think Biden mentioned $10K a few times, although I don't remember if that was during the campaign or when he looked into the finer details after already becoming president. If giving people more opportunity is unpopular with the non-college workforce, then they were probably already going to vote Republican anyway. | ||
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