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On October 22 2020 20:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Wouldn't it be fun to see Doomsmack and other's reaction if Biden encouraged Iran to hack Trump for dirt and had Hunter organize a meeting with Iranian officials to see what they have?
Totally certain he would be ok with that.
I wouldn't rule out that it already happened tbh. Probably not Biden though but i'll bet someone has at least looked into it.
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On October 22 2020 20:50 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2020 20:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Wouldn't it be fun to see Doomsmack and other's reaction if Biden encouraged Iran to hack Trump for dirt and had Hunter organize a meeting with Iranian officials to see what they have?
Totally certain he would be ok with that. I wouldn't rule out that it already happened tbh. Probably not Biden though but i'll bet someone has at least looked into it.
I don't think so. Accepting or asking for help of a geopolitical foe to get dirt on an opponent is totally outside the norms. And stupid btw.
I mean previous republican campaigns contacted the FBI when they were approached by the russians for help. I am sure they were not angels and wanted to win.
But anyway. That's not my point. Doomsmack mind boggling double standards and his lacking of to lack self awareness to the point he apparently doesn't even realize it is double standard, is.
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On October 22 2020 20:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2020 20:50 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 22 2020 20:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Wouldn't it be fun to see Doomsmack and other's reaction if Biden encouraged Iran to hack Trump for dirt and had Hunter organize a meeting with Iranian officials to see what they have?
Totally certain he would be ok with that. I wouldn't rule out that it already happened tbh. Probably not Biden though but i'll bet someone has at least looked into it. I don't think so. Accepting or asking for help of a geopolitical foe to get dirt on an opponent is totally outside the norms. And stupid btw. I mean previous republican campaigns contacted the FBI when they were approached by the russians for help. I am sure they were not angels and wanted to win. But anyway. That's not my point. Doomsmack mind boggling double standards and his lacking of to lack self awareness to the point he apparently doesn't even realize it is double standard, is.
You're basically bringing up a straw man so there's no double standard. I don't approve of Trump having asked Russia to find Hillary's emails or Don Jr having agreed to the Trump Tower meeting. But it's still quite possible to disapprove of the collusion investigation despite those events.
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On October 23 2020 00:22 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2020 20:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:On October 22 2020 20:50 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 22 2020 20:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Wouldn't it be fun to see Doomsmack and other's reaction if Biden encouraged Iran to hack Trump for dirt and had Hunter organize a meeting with Iranian officials to see what they have?
Totally certain he would be ok with that. I wouldn't rule out that it already happened tbh. Probably not Biden though but i'll bet someone has at least looked into it. I don't think so. Accepting or asking for help of a geopolitical foe to get dirt on an opponent is totally outside the norms. And stupid btw. I mean previous republican campaigns contacted the FBI when they were approached by the russians for help. I am sure they were not angels and wanted to win. But anyway. That's not my point. Doomsmack mind boggling double standards and his lacking of to lack self awareness to the point he apparently doesn't even realize it is double standard, is. You're basically bringing up a straw man so there's no double standard. I don't approve of Trump having asked Russia to find Hillary's emails or Don Jr having agreed to the Trump Tower meeting. But it's still quite possible to disapprove of the collusion investigation despite those events.
Mi amigo. That's why there was an investigation. Because those events took place. Can you...can you not understand that?
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Trump has gone ahead and released the 60 minutes interview that he walked out of pre-emptively now.
Hate linking to facebook but that's where it's posted. I haven't had time to watch all of it, but she flat out accuses him of lying to her face a couple times in preview clips.
Look at the bias, hatred and rudeness on behalf of 60 Minutes and CBS. Tonight’s anchor, Kristen Welker, is far worse! #MAGA
https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/videos/350524406214941/?t=0
Biden, on the competing 60 minutes interview, released his court plan.
It's not that bad, a lot better than expected. As long as what he means by bipartisan commission is 70%+ democrats...
He wants to make a bipartisan commission to make recommendations.
I suspect we'll get court packing out of it : there's no feasible alternative.
“If elected, what I will do is I’ll put together a national commission of, a bipartisan commission of scholars, constitutional scholars, Democrats, Republicans, liberal, conservative,” Biden said. “And I will ask them to, over 180 days, to come back to me with recommendations as to how to reform the court system, because it’s getting out of whack, the way in which it’s being handled.”
“And it’s not about court-packing,” he added. “There’s a number of other things that constitutional scholars have debated, and I’d look to see what recommendations that commission might make.”
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Also, Guardian is reporting that ICE tortured Cameroonians requesting asylum until they signed their own deportation papers.
Will probably need confirmation from other news sources given their... bad recent record, though, but it shouldn't be difficult to confirm. A lot of people would have been involved.
Many of the Cameroonian migrants in a Mississippi detention centre refused to sign, fearing death at the hands of Cameroonian government forces responsible for widespread civilian killings, and because they had asylum hearings pending.
According to multiple accounts, detainees were threatened, choked, beaten, pepper-sprayed and threatened with more violence to make them sign. Several were put in handcuffs by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) officers, and their fingerprints were taken forcibly in place of a signature on documents called stipulated orders of removal, by which the asylum seekers waive their rights to further immigration hearings and accept deportation.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/22/us-ice-officers-allegedly-used-torture-to-make-africans-sign-own-deportation-orders
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On October 23 2020 00:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2020 00:22 Doodsmack wrote:On October 22 2020 20:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:On October 22 2020 20:50 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 22 2020 20:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Wouldn't it be fun to see Doomsmack and other's reaction if Biden encouraged Iran to hack Trump for dirt and had Hunter organize a meeting with Iranian officials to see what they have?
Totally certain he would be ok with that. I wouldn't rule out that it already happened tbh. Probably not Biden though but i'll bet someone has at least looked into it. I don't think so. Accepting or asking for help of a geopolitical foe to get dirt on an opponent is totally outside the norms. And stupid btw. I mean previous republican campaigns contacted the FBI when they were approached by the russians for help. I am sure they were not angels and wanted to win. But anyway. That's not my point. Doomsmack mind boggling double standards and his lacking of to lack self awareness to the point he apparently doesn't even realize it is double standard, is. You're basically bringing up a straw man so there's no double standard. I don't approve of Trump having asked Russia to find Hillary's emails or Don Jr having agreed to the Trump Tower meeting. But it's still quite possible to disapprove of the collusion investigation despite those events. Mi amigo. That's why there was an investigation. Because those events took place. Can you...can you not understand that?
Wrong. The investigation was predicated on Joseph Mifsud's talks with Papadapolous. See Mueller Report, p. 89, footnote 465. Those other events were after the fact happenings, they didn't amount to collusion, and btw the Trump Tower meeting was likely a sting of sorts orchestrated by Fusion GPS.
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On October 23 2020 01:02 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2020 00:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On October 23 2020 00:22 Doodsmack wrote:On October 22 2020 20:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:On October 22 2020 20:50 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 22 2020 20:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Wouldn't it be fun to see Doomsmack and other's reaction if Biden encouraged Iran to hack Trump for dirt and had Hunter organize a meeting with Iranian officials to see what they have?
Totally certain he would be ok with that. I wouldn't rule out that it already happened tbh. Probably not Biden though but i'll bet someone has at least looked into it. I don't think so. Accepting or asking for help of a geopolitical foe to get dirt on an opponent is totally outside the norms. And stupid btw. I mean previous republican campaigns contacted the FBI when they were approached by the russians for help. I am sure they were not angels and wanted to win. But anyway. That's not my point. Doomsmack mind boggling double standards and his lacking of to lack self awareness to the point he apparently doesn't even realize it is double standard, is. You're basically bringing up a straw man so there's no double standard. I don't approve of Trump having asked Russia to find Hillary's emails or Don Jr having agreed to the Trump Tower meeting. But it's still quite possible to disapprove of the collusion investigation despite those events. Mi amigo. That's why there was an investigation. Because those events took place. Can you...can you not understand that? Wrong. The investigation was predicated on Joseph Mifsud's talks with Papadapolous. See Mueller Report, p. 89, footnote 465. Those other events were after the fact happenings, they didn't amount to collusion, and btw the Trump Tower meeting was likely a sting of sorts orchestrated by Fusion GPS.
So, you're saying that the collusion investigation should never have happened, regardless of that has come to light. That the myriad of warnings and red flags should have been ignored because...there wasn't a basis for it? I'm finding difficult to understand your reasoning as to why the collusion investigation, despite those events, was not warranted. You say you disapprove of what trump and co have been doing, but that the investigation was bogus all the same.
Meh. I'll let others handle it. I'll stick to lurking.
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It does appear as though the biden family has been pretty swampy. At a minimum Joe seems to have granted abundant access to his son and his sons business partners. Of course one might view this as minor in comparison to one's view of trump - but it's still worth being reported on. I expect the liberal portion of the media to hold firm against the whole story though. At this point they'd look silly in reversing themselves on the "disinformation" deflection.
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On October 22 2020 20:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2020 20:50 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 22 2020 20:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Wouldn't it be fun to see Doomsmack and other's reaction if Biden encouraged Iran to hack Trump for dirt and had Hunter organize a meeting with Iranian officials to see what they have?
Totally certain he would be ok with that. I wouldn't rule out that it already happened tbh. Probably not Biden though but i'll bet someone has at least looked into it. I don't think so. Accepting or asking for help of a geopolitical foe to get dirt on an opponent is totally outside the norms. And stupid btw. I mean previous republican campaigns contacted the FBI when they were approached by the russians for help. I am sure they were not angels and wanted to win. But anyway. That's not my point. Doomsmack mind boggling double standards and his lacking of to lack self awareness to the point he apparently doesn't even realize it is double standard, is.
That's not my point. If you cared one bit about corruption and nepotism you wouldn't even consider voting for Trump in a million year. Seeing you insisting on every little piece of Hunter Biden story evidence however doubtful is painful to watch. That you then accuse anyone of being the pawn of Iran is so ironic it gives me a headache.
I mean, how do you expect to be taken seriously?
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On October 23 2020 01:24 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2020 01:02 Doodsmack wrote:On October 23 2020 00:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On October 23 2020 00:22 Doodsmack wrote:On October 22 2020 20:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:On October 22 2020 20:50 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 22 2020 20:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Wouldn't it be fun to see Doomsmack and other's reaction if Biden encouraged Iran to hack Trump for dirt and had Hunter organize a meeting with Iranian officials to see what they have?
Totally certain he would be ok with that. I wouldn't rule out that it already happened tbh. Probably not Biden though but i'll bet someone has at least looked into it. I don't think so. Accepting or asking for help of a geopolitical foe to get dirt on an opponent is totally outside the norms. And stupid btw. I mean previous republican campaigns contacted the FBI when they were approached by the russians for help. I am sure they were not angels and wanted to win. But anyway. That's not my point. Doomsmack mind boggling double standards and his lacking of to lack self awareness to the point he apparently doesn't even realize it is double standard, is. You're basically bringing up a straw man so there's no double standard. I don't approve of Trump having asked Russia to find Hillary's emails or Don Jr having agreed to the Trump Tower meeting. But it's still quite possible to disapprove of the collusion investigation despite those events. Mi amigo. That's why there was an investigation. Because those events took place. Can you...can you not understand that? Wrong. The investigation was predicated on Joseph Mifsud's talks with Papadapolous. See Mueller Report, p. 89, footnote 465. Those other events were after the fact happenings, they didn't amount to collusion, and btw the Trump Tower meeting was likely a sting of sorts orchestrated by Fusion GPS. So, you're saying that the collusion investigation should never have happened, regardless of that has come to light. That the myriad of warnings and red flags should have been ignored because...there wasn't a basis for it? I'm finding difficult to understand your reasoning as to why the collusion investigation, despite those events, was not warranted. You say you disapprove of what trump and co have been doing, but that the investigation was bogus all the same. Meh. I'll let others handle it. I'll stick to lurking.
Here's an analogous situation - the cops bust down the door of someone for no good reason other than they don't the person or think he's scummy. Or worse, the cops first obtain a pretextual reason to bust down the door, by framing the person for some sort of crime or national security risk. The cops then find heroin inside. The person whose door was busted down can then get the cops' case against him thrown out of court.
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On October 23 2020 01:37 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2020 01:24 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On October 23 2020 01:02 Doodsmack wrote:On October 23 2020 00:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On October 23 2020 00:22 Doodsmack wrote:On October 22 2020 20:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:On October 22 2020 20:50 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 22 2020 20:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Wouldn't it be fun to see Doomsmack and other's reaction if Biden encouraged Iran to hack Trump for dirt and had Hunter organize a meeting with Iranian officials to see what they have?
Totally certain he would be ok with that. I wouldn't rule out that it already happened tbh. Probably not Biden though but i'll bet someone has at least looked into it. I don't think so. Accepting or asking for help of a geopolitical foe to get dirt on an opponent is totally outside the norms. And stupid btw. I mean previous republican campaigns contacted the FBI when they were approached by the russians for help. I am sure they were not angels and wanted to win. But anyway. That's not my point. Doomsmack mind boggling double standards and his lacking of to lack self awareness to the point he apparently doesn't even realize it is double standard, is. You're basically bringing up a straw man so there's no double standard. I don't approve of Trump having asked Russia to find Hillary's emails or Don Jr having agreed to the Trump Tower meeting. But it's still quite possible to disapprove of the collusion investigation despite those events. Mi amigo. That's why there was an investigation. Because those events took place. Can you...can you not understand that? Wrong. The investigation was predicated on Joseph Mifsud's talks with Papadapolous. See Mueller Report, p. 89, footnote 465. Those other events were after the fact happenings, they didn't amount to collusion, and btw the Trump Tower meeting was likely a sting of sorts orchestrated by Fusion GPS. So, you're saying that the collusion investigation should never have happened, regardless of that has come to light. That the myriad of warnings and red flags should have been ignored because...there wasn't a basis for it? I'm finding difficult to understand your reasoning as to why the collusion investigation, despite those events, was not warranted. You say you disapprove of what trump and co have been doing, but that the investigation was bogus all the same. Meh. I'll let others handle it. I'll stick to lurking. Here's an analogous situation - the cops bust down the door of someone for no good reason other than they don't the person or think he's scummy. Or worse, the cops first obtain a pretextual reason to bust down the door, by framing the person for some sort of crime or national security risk. The cops then find heroin inside. The person whose door was busted down can then get the cops' case against him thrown out of court.
That makes absolutely no sense at all.
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It does make sense. The end doesn't justify the means. In that situation, the proof will have been obtained illegaly. However you can't just reject what has come to light because you disapprouve the means used.
Its legal for the big compagnies to pay 0 taxes, and yet you should be against it. Legality != morality.
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I'm sure Barr is going to sue someone for illegally spying on Trump under false pretences.
Any day now...
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On October 23 2020 01:39 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2020 01:37 Doodsmack wrote:On October 23 2020 01:24 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On October 23 2020 01:02 Doodsmack wrote:On October 23 2020 00:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On October 23 2020 00:22 Doodsmack wrote:On October 22 2020 20:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:On October 22 2020 20:50 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 22 2020 20:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Wouldn't it be fun to see Doomsmack and other's reaction if Biden encouraged Iran to hack Trump for dirt and had Hunter organize a meeting with Iranian officials to see what they have?
Totally certain he would be ok with that. I wouldn't rule out that it already happened tbh. Probably not Biden though but i'll bet someone has at least looked into it. I don't think so. Accepting or asking for help of a geopolitical foe to get dirt on an opponent is totally outside the norms. And stupid btw. I mean previous republican campaigns contacted the FBI when they were approached by the russians for help. I am sure they were not angels and wanted to win. But anyway. That's not my point. Doomsmack mind boggling double standards and his lacking of to lack self awareness to the point he apparently doesn't even realize it is double standard, is. You're basically bringing up a straw man so there's no double standard. I don't approve of Trump having asked Russia to find Hillary's emails or Don Jr having agreed to the Trump Tower meeting. But it's still quite possible to disapprove of the collusion investigation despite those events. Mi amigo. That's why there was an investigation. Because those events took place. Can you...can you not understand that? Wrong. The investigation was predicated on Joseph Mifsud's talks with Papadapolous. See Mueller Report, p. 89, footnote 465. Those other events were after the fact happenings, they didn't amount to collusion, and btw the Trump Tower meeting was likely a sting of sorts orchestrated by Fusion GPS. So, you're saying that the collusion investigation should never have happened, regardless of that has come to light. That the myriad of warnings and red flags should have been ignored because...there wasn't a basis for it? I'm finding difficult to understand your reasoning as to why the collusion investigation, despite those events, was not warranted. You say you disapprove of what trump and co have been doing, but that the investigation was bogus all the same. Meh. I'll let others handle it. I'll stick to lurking. Here's an analogous situation - the cops bust down the door of someone for no good reason other than they don't the person or think he's scummy. Or worse, the cops first obtain a pretextual reason to bust down the door, by framing the person for some sort of crime or national security risk. The cops then find heroin inside. The person whose door was busted down can then get the cops' case against him thrown out of court. That makes absolutely no sense at all.
It is actually how our system works (that the case can be thrown out), because of the 4th Amendment. The idea is that law enforcement needs adequate predication before it acts against people.
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On October 23 2020 01:39 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2020 01:37 Doodsmack wrote:On October 23 2020 01:24 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On October 23 2020 01:02 Doodsmack wrote:On October 23 2020 00:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On October 23 2020 00:22 Doodsmack wrote:On October 22 2020 20:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:On October 22 2020 20:50 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 22 2020 20:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Wouldn't it be fun to see Doomsmack and other's reaction if Biden encouraged Iran to hack Trump for dirt and had Hunter organize a meeting with Iranian officials to see what they have?
Totally certain he would be ok with that. I wouldn't rule out that it already happened tbh. Probably not Biden though but i'll bet someone has at least looked into it. I don't think so. Accepting or asking for help of a geopolitical foe to get dirt on an opponent is totally outside the norms. And stupid btw. I mean previous republican campaigns contacted the FBI when they were approached by the russians for help. I am sure they were not angels and wanted to win. But anyway. That's not my point. Doomsmack mind boggling double standards and his lacking of to lack self awareness to the point he apparently doesn't even realize it is double standard, is. You're basically bringing up a straw man so there's no double standard. I don't approve of Trump having asked Russia to find Hillary's emails or Don Jr having agreed to the Trump Tower meeting. But it's still quite possible to disapprove of the collusion investigation despite those events. Mi amigo. That's why there was an investigation. Because those events took place. Can you...can you not understand that? Wrong. The investigation was predicated on Joseph Mifsud's talks with Papadapolous. See Mueller Report, p. 89, footnote 465. Those other events were after the fact happenings, they didn't amount to collusion, and btw the Trump Tower meeting was likely a sting of sorts orchestrated by Fusion GPS. So, you're saying that the collusion investigation should never have happened, regardless of that has come to light. That the myriad of warnings and red flags should have been ignored because...there wasn't a basis for it? I'm finding difficult to understand your reasoning as to why the collusion investigation, despite those events, was not warranted. You say you disapprove of what trump and co have been doing, but that the investigation was bogus all the same. Meh. I'll let others handle it. I'll stick to lurking. Here's an analogous situation - the cops bust down the door of someone for no good reason other than they don't the person or think he's scummy. Or worse, the cops first obtain a pretextual reason to bust down the door, by framing the person for some sort of crime or national security risk. The cops then find heroin inside. The person whose door was busted down can then get the cops' case against him thrown out of court. That makes absolutely no sense at all.
It's called fruit of the poisonous tree as a legal doctrine. The truth is that the case doodsmack outlined would probably be totally fine, though, as it's not like we can prove they made up a fake reason to bust down the door. There are a ton of reasons cops are allowed to do that.
What's a more accurate way to portray it is the cops come up to you, say they have a warrant, you let them in, they find heroin. You tell them who you bought it from, they go arrest the dealer. Then it comes out at trial that the warrant was forged or fake. That gets the case against the dealer thrown out entirely.
It also has four massive exceptions :
if it was discovered from a source independent of the illegal activity;
its discovery was inevitable;
or if there is attenuation between the illegal activity and the discovery of the evidence.
Further, if the primary evidence was illegally obtained, but admissible under the good faith exception, its derivatives (or "fruit") may also be admissible.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree
Anyways. Collusion isn't a criminal trial, unlike what keeps getting alleged by Trump and his allies. The standard there is something like 97-99% positive. The point is we need more than a 3% chance that our president isn't a russian stooge.
Fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine frankly doesn't apply at all to political or journalistic matters (see the current Hunter Biden thing, where even the most generous interpretation involves the owner having stolen data off some laptops : it is 100% legal for Giuliani or the NYPost to print articles based on stolen info).
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I think that that makes sense in general, and is totally a sensible thing to hold police to.
However, it also isn't relevant here, and displays a pretty gamified view of stuff. Even if the way the information on Trump was acquired wasn't legal (I don't know about that), if that information shows that Trump and his cronies did bad stuff, they still did that stuff.
Just because he cannot technically be found guilty of it in a court of law doesn't mean he is not still guilty of the thing in reality. If you find a gamey way to defeat accusations on you on a technicality, but everyone still knows you did the thing, then you still did the thing, and the public opinion can reflect that.
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On October 23 2020 00:59 Nevuk wrote:Trump has gone ahead and released the 60 minutes interview that he walked out of pre-emptively now. Hate linking to facebook but that's where it's posted. I haven't had time to watch all of it, but she flat out accuses him of lying to her face a couple times in preview clips. Show nested quote +Look at the bias, hatred and rudeness on behalf of 60 Minutes and CBS. Tonight’s anchor, Kristen Welker, is far worse! #MAGA https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/videos/350524406214941/?t=0Biden, on the competing 60 minutes interview, released his court plan. It's not that bad, a lot better than expected. As long as what he means by bipartisan commission is 70%+ democrats... He wants to make a bipartisan commission to make recommendations. I suspect we'll get court packing out of it : there's no feasible alternative. Show nested quote +
“If elected, what I will do is I’ll put together a national commission of, a bipartisan commission of scholars, constitutional scholars, Democrats, Republicans, liberal, conservative,” Biden said. “And I will ask them to, over 180 days, to come back to me with recommendations as to how to reform the court system, because it’s getting out of whack, the way in which it’s being handled.”
“And it’s not about court-packing,” he added. “There’s a number of other things that constitutional scholars have debated, and I’d look to see what recommendations that commission might make.”
https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/1319241809873293312edit: Also, Guardian is reporting that ICE tortured Cameroonians requesting asylum until they signed their own deportation papers. Will probably need confirmation from other news sources given their... bad recent record, though, but it shouldn't be difficult to confirm. A lot of people would have been involved. Show nested quote +Many of the Cameroonian migrants in a Mississippi detention centre refused to sign, fearing death at the hands of Cameroonian government forces responsible for widespread civilian killings, and because they had asylum hearings pending.
According to multiple accounts, detainees were threatened, choked, beaten, pepper-sprayed and threatened with more violence to make them sign. Several were put in handcuffs by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) officers, and their fingerprints were taken forcibly in place of a signature on documents called stipulated orders of removal, by which the asylum seekers waive their rights to further immigration hearings and accept deportation. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/22/us-ice-officers-allegedly-used-torture-to-make-africans-sign-own-deportation-orders
It’s a good interview and deserves a watch. I particularly liked how the interviewer tried to squirm out of the Hunter Biden issue. Sort of: it’s not verified — so why don’t you go out and verify it — because it can’t be verified! That’s the kind of contortions media figures are putting themselves through. Also, denying the spying on the Trump campaign. Just when you think major journalists had finished all they could do beclowning themselves on that issue, they show some American exceptionalism.
And the New York post twitter can’t write on twitter. Sure, share misleading guardian articles and fake proud boys texts, but heaven forbid the laptop story.
Biden admitting to court packing (through commission advisement) is something he should’ve done long ago. His base wants it and he doesn’t clearly oppose it, so people should vote on it with full knowledge. If 9 justices on the Supreme Court is a norm that should be given up, then go pitch it and run on it.
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