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On October 03 2020 12:17 LegalLord wrote:
Definitely seems like a green screen to me, for all the reasons already highlighted. On top of that, the statement itself feels very much cut short, as if they only has 18 seconds worth of usable footage they could use. Very much out of character, at any rate.
So, tinfoil hat time: what if it's a deep fake and this is the longest video they could make before things became too obvious?
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On October 03 2020 12:18 StasisField wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 12:17 LegalLord wrote:
Definitely seems like a green screen to me, for all the reasons already highlighted. On top of that, the statement itself feels very much cut short, as if they only has 18 seconds worth of usable footage they could use. Very much out of character, at any rate. So, tinfoil hat time: what if it's a deep fake and this is the longest video they could make before things became too obvious?
I think within minutes, Trump and his administration would have come out with a real announcement, unequivocally decrying the deep fake and probably accusing Joe Biden of being behind it.
Double tinfoil plot twist: What if the deepfake was from Russia or China, intending on painting Biden to be the fall guy for this deepfake so that Trump can garner more sympathy? XD
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On October 03 2020 12:18 StasisField wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 12:17 LegalLord wrote:
Definitely seems like a green screen to me, for all the reasons already highlighted. On top of that, the statement itself feels very much cut short, as if they only has 18 seconds worth of usable footage they could use. Very much out of character, at any rate. So, tinfoil hat time: what if it's a deep fake and this is the longest video they could make before things became too obvious?
It would be another in the long line of really paranoid attempts by the US government to hide the health issues of its leadership over the last few decades. It'd also lend a lot of credence to the more alarming rumors we've heard over the past few hours.
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The most likely explanation is that it was hastily pre-recorded. It doesn't need to be some giant conspiracy or authorised deepfake or whatever. It's very plausible that Trump's team recognised how disastrous this is and frantically had him do a bunch of "day 3 of the Chinavirus, all is well!" things to push out in future
Also from last page:
On October 03 2020 07:14 Mohdoo wrote:The word compassion is super key. It may indicate Regeneron heard the situation and went "yikes". If a few different theories regarding Trump's health end up true, such as stimulant use and recent stroke, he may already be in a smidge of a checkmate situation. I'm surprised they didn't just replace all his blood right away, or at least as much as possible, but as I said above, he may have other health complications that make aggressive use of plasma transfusion risky. it can seriously go from day 1 we're good, day 2 is rough, day 3 is like barely breathing. Not commonly, but it can, especially in old people. Infection is always a differential equation, there are certain factors such as starting concentration (basically the dosage of exposure, such as spending 8 hours with someone highly infectious, vs 30 minutes with someone mildly infectious).And if Trump was on medications that weakened his immune system, which is common for various things old people happen to take. It can be like KABOOM. I'm wondering if they put out a statement because they think Trump will die and they want people to know he was already fucked. "Trump took this company's medicine and died" is a good way to have your stock drop a bit + Show Spoiler +Regardless, their methodology for keeping Trump alive is apparently nothing like I imagined it was. Environmental COVID testing can detect COVID prior to a patient showing symptoms. People's lives have been saved by environmental testing. The one thing that legitimately conclusively bodes poorly for Trump is that they weren't doing environmental testing. If they weren't testing his desk and stuff, that represents a major cost:benefit:risk failure. The cost of testing Trump's entire environment twice a day would be absolute peanuts in cost. This is legitimately really big: Compassionate Drug Use
What is compassionate drug use?
Compassionate drug use means making a new, unapproved drug available to treat a seriously ill patient when no other treatments are available.
Drugs that are being tested but have not yet been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) are called investigational drugs. These drugs are normally available only to people who are taking part in a clinical trial.
Being able to use one of these drugs when you are not in a clinical trial is most commonly referred to as compassionate drug use. https://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatments-and-side-effects/clinical-trials/compassionate-drug-use.html#:~:text=What is compassionate drug use,FDA) are called investigational drugs.
This is a misread. "Compassionate" access is a very standard term in the industry. It's the main way that people get access to experimental drugs off-trial. It's very common at the end of a study if the drug is not yet approved, because it's not considered ethical to cut the patient off if the drug is proceeding. Other common justifications are a patient with some rare disease that's too obscure to run a full trial, but where there's evidence a drug under trial for a related disease might work, and also patients who would obviously benefit but are too unwell to deal with the requirements of being on trial.
EDIT: this is in the quote at the bottom:
Being able to use one of these drugs when you are not in a clinical trial is most commonly referred to as compassionate drug use
There's no reason to create a special "the potus has it" pathway when compassionate access exists. The term should not be read into to infer that Trump is dying.
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Here are my thoughts on this tweet: it is really weird but also amazing. I think it is news worthy because it’s related to Trump having covid
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I think we've had a couple small October surprises this far, but I'm seeing the first bigger one to come out. A North Carolina senate seat is up, occupied by Democrat Cal Cunningham. And he has a scandal now.
He's not dropping out now. But then again, neither did Roy Moore when his scandal went public. Cunningham has a ~12 point lead there, but as far as party sentiment goes, Biden only has a 2-3 lead on Trump.
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On October 03 2020 12:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 12:18 StasisField wrote:On October 03 2020 12:17 LegalLord wrote:
Definitely seems like a green screen to me, for all the reasons already highlighted. On top of that, the statement itself feels very much cut short, as if they only has 18 seconds worth of usable footage they could use. Very much out of character, at any rate. So, tinfoil hat time: what if it's a deep fake and this is the longest video they could make before things became too obvious? I think within minutes, Trump and his administration would have come out with a real announcement, unequivocally decrying the deep fake and probably accusing Joe Biden of being behind it. Double tinfoil plot twist: What if the deepfake was from Russia or China, intending on painting Biden to be the fall guy for this deepfake so that Trump can garner more sympathy? XD
I think StasisField means what if the deepfake is by Trump's team to cover for Trump being sick. I don't think that's the case, though, I'm leaning much more to greenscreen. As Belisarius said, maybe they pumped out ~5 videos to spread over the coming days even if he gets much worse.
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On October 03 2020 12:40 Danglars wrote:I think we've had a couple small October surprises this far, but I'm seeing the first bigger one to come out. A North Carolina senate seat is up, occupied by Democrat Cal Cunningham. And he has a scandal now. https://twitter.com/Alex_Roarty/status/1312232417789448193He's not dropping out now. But then again, neither did Roy Moore when his scandal went public. Cunningham has a ~12 point lead there, but as far as party sentiment goes, Biden only has a 2-3 lead on Trump.
Small potatoes nothingburger. Yawn.
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On October 03 2020 12:40 Danglars wrote:I think we've had a couple small October surprises this far, but I'm seeing the first bigger one to come out. A North Carolina senate seat is up, occupied by Democrat Cal Cunningham. And he has a scandal now. https://twitter.com/Alex_Roarty/status/1312232417789448193He's not dropping out now. But then again, neither did Roy Moore when his scandal went public. Cunningham has a ~12 point lead there, but as far as party sentiment goes, Biden only has a 2-3 lead on Trump.
We are well past the point where anyone gives a shit about cheating in terms of who to vote for
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We're probably past the point where people care about cheating in the actual election itself.
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On October 03 2020 09:53 Mohdoo wrote:
I just realized there isn't actually anything in that Trump video where he's like "first lady is fine" that shows it was made today.
Since this picked up steam into more posts, he actually does say the first lady is "doing very well."
On October 03 2020 11:00 Danglars wrote:
ACB failing to be confirmed because of two senators with coronavirus and 1-2 refusing to vote would be quite a turn.
Think they are still going to do it pre-election, but even if it was lame duck the argument wouldn't change and they'd just shrug and say "covid!"
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On October 03 2020 12:50 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 12:40 Danglars wrote:I think we've had a couple small October surprises this far, but I'm seeing the first bigger one to come out. A North Carolina senate seat is up, occupied by Democrat Cal Cunningham. And he has a scandal now. https://twitter.com/Alex_Roarty/status/1312232417789448193He's not dropping out now. But then again, neither did Roy Moore when his scandal went public. Cunningham has a ~12 point lead there, but as far as party sentiment goes, Biden only has a 2-3 lead on Trump. We are well past the point where anyone gives a shit about cheating in terms of who to vote for
I unfortunately agree, also ~12 points ahead? He should be fine. If it was a close race I would be more inclined to entertain the idea of him being in quite a pickle.
I remember that Loeffler lady - and thinking harder about it even a couple of represantatives iirc - selling off millions of stocks right after a (very early) corona virus briefing, while being on the "everything's fine people - nothing new to report train" in her communications with the public.
The times they are a'Changin...
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I don't know if you could reasonably expect folks to give a shit about a cheating scandal like this after 4 years of defending Trump to the hilt. The good faith is gone.
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As long as he didn't bodyslam a reporter he should be good. Even if he did.... he should be good.
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On October 03 2020 13:06 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 12:50 Mohdoo wrote:On October 03 2020 12:40 Danglars wrote:I think we've had a couple small October surprises this far, but I'm seeing the first bigger one to come out. A North Carolina senate seat is up, occupied by Democrat Cal Cunningham. And he has a scandal now. https://twitter.com/Alex_Roarty/status/1312232417789448193He's not dropping out now. But then again, neither did Roy Moore when his scandal went public. Cunningham has a ~12 point lead there, but as far as party sentiment goes, Biden only has a 2-3 lead on Trump. We are well past the point where anyone gives a shit about cheating in terms of who to vote for I unfortunately agree, also ~12 points ahead? He should be fine. If it was a close race I would be more inclined to entertain the idea of him being in quite a pickle. I remember that Loeffler lady - and thinking harder about it even a couple of represantatives iirc - selling off millions of stocks right after a (very early) corona virus briefing, while being on the "everything's fine people - nothing new to report train" in her communications with the public. The times they are a'Changin...
He's not 12 points ahead in most polls--he's +6 according to RCP, and the race has lots of undecided, so a scandal could well matter (though sexting isn't much of one as far as scandals go).
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Are we seriously trying to bring morals into this. Pandora’s box has been completely opened with Trump being elected. People didn’t give a shit about Virginia’s governor being in blackface all those moons ago, they won’t give a shit about some dude cheating. It’s all about what these politicians give us.
Same deal with faith in rule of law, law enforcement, etc. We can’t go back in time and assume these things mean a whole lot anymore. The expectation of treating these things in good faith is long gone.
On October 03 2020 13:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 13:06 Doublemint wrote:On October 03 2020 12:50 Mohdoo wrote:On October 03 2020 12:40 Danglars wrote:I think we've had a couple small October surprises this far, but I'm seeing the first bigger one to come out. A North Carolina senate seat is up, occupied by Democrat Cal Cunningham. And he has a scandal now. https://twitter.com/Alex_Roarty/status/1312232417789448193He's not dropping out now. But then again, neither did Roy Moore when his scandal went public. Cunningham has a ~12 point lead there, but as far as party sentiment goes, Biden only has a 2-3 lead on Trump. We are well past the point where anyone gives a shit about cheating in terms of who to vote for I unfortunately agree, also ~12 points ahead? He should be fine. If it was a close race I would be more inclined to entertain the idea of him being in quite a pickle. I remember that Loeffler lady - and thinking harder about it even a couple of represantatives iirc - selling off millions of stocks right after a (very early) corona virus briefing, while being on the "everything's fine people - nothing new to report train" in her communications with the public. The times they are a'Changin... He's not 12 points ahead in most polls--he's +6 according to RCP, and the race has lots of undecided, so a scandal could well matter (though sexting isn't much of one as far as scandals go).
Sort of. Recent polling has Cunningham posting some pretty big ~10 point leads over Tillis. High undecideds are a problem for Cunningham but as you say sexting is boring as far as scandals go.
Re: Coronavirus spread in Whitehouse. Shit is continuing still. Apparently Christie has caught it but no official news. But seems fairly likely looking at this list with coronavirus batting 0.500 so far.
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On October 03 2020 13:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 13:06 Doublemint wrote:On October 03 2020 12:50 Mohdoo wrote:On October 03 2020 12:40 Danglars wrote:I think we've had a couple small October surprises this far, but I'm seeing the first bigger one to come out. A North Carolina senate seat is up, occupied by Democrat Cal Cunningham. And he has a scandal now. https://twitter.com/Alex_Roarty/status/1312232417789448193He's not dropping out now. But then again, neither did Roy Moore when his scandal went public. Cunningham has a ~12 point lead there, but as far as party sentiment goes, Biden only has a 2-3 lead on Trump. We are well past the point where anyone gives a shit about cheating in terms of who to vote for I unfortunately agree, also ~12 points ahead? He should be fine. If it was a close race I would be more inclined to entertain the idea of him being in quite a pickle. I remember that Loeffler lady - and thinking harder about it even a couple of represantatives iirc - selling off millions of stocks right after a (very early) corona virus briefing, while being on the "everything's fine people - nothing new to report train" in her communications with the public. The times they are a'Changin... He's not 12 points ahead in most polls--he's +6 according to RCP, and the race has lots of undecided, so a scandal could well matter (though sexting isn't much of one as far as scandals go).
My bad for not checking and relying on Danglar's fake news :p
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On October 03 2020 13:19 StalkerTL wrote:Are we seriously trying to bring morals into this. Pandora’s box has been completely opened with Trump being elected. People didn’t give a shit about Virginia’s governor being in blackface all those moons ago, they won’t give a shit about some dude cheating. It’s all about what these politicians give us. Same deal with faith in rule of law, law enforcement, etc. We can’t go back in time and assume these things mean a whole lot anymore. The expectation of treating these things in good faith is long gone. Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 13:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 03 2020 13:06 Doublemint wrote:On October 03 2020 12:50 Mohdoo wrote:On October 03 2020 12:40 Danglars wrote:I think we've had a couple small October surprises this far, but I'm seeing the first bigger one to come out. A North Carolina senate seat is up, occupied by Democrat Cal Cunningham. And he has a scandal now. https://twitter.com/Alex_Roarty/status/1312232417789448193He's not dropping out now. But then again, neither did Roy Moore when his scandal went public. Cunningham has a ~12 point lead there, but as far as party sentiment goes, Biden only has a 2-3 lead on Trump. We are well past the point where anyone gives a shit about cheating in terms of who to vote for I unfortunately agree, also ~12 points ahead? He should be fine. If it was a close race I would be more inclined to entertain the idea of him being in quite a pickle. I remember that Loeffler lady - and thinking harder about it even a couple of represantatives iirc - selling off millions of stocks right after a (very early) corona virus briefing, while being on the "everything's fine people - nothing new to report train" in her communications with the public. The times they are a'Changin... He's not 12 points ahead in most polls--he's +6 according to RCP, and the race has lots of undecided, so a scandal could well matter (though sexting isn't much of one as far as scandals go). Sort of. Recent polling has Cunningham posting some pretty big ~10 point leads over Tillis. High undecideds are a problem for Cunningham but as you say sexting is boring as far as scandals go. Re: Coronavirus spread in Whitehouse. Shit is continuing still. Apparently Christie has caught it but no official news. But seems fairly likely looking at this list with coronavirus batting 0.500 so far. https://twitter.com/DanaBashCNN/status/1312241059427221505
This is what happens when you're so insecure about masculinity you let it shape your culture.
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Not yet mentioned, but significant: this guy's opponent is one of the Republican Senators who caught the coronavirus in Trump's super-spreader circle. That's probably a bigger problem than sexting, all things considered.
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On October 03 2020 13:30 LegalLord wrote:
Not yet mentioned, but significant: this guy's opponent is one of the Republican Senators who caught the coronavirus in Trump's super-spreader circle. That's probably a bigger problem than sexting, all things considered.
Pretty much. If some dude wants to get saucy in his own time, I don’t really care so long as it’s consensual. If some dude doesn’t mind spreading the coronavirus because he wants to be some big man who doesn’t need to social distance and wear masks, then we have a problem because that actually impacts my life.
Thought if I’m being honest, Cunningham sucks at flirting. Those texts suck.
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