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On October 03 2020 12:40 Danglars wrote:
I think we've had a couple small October surprises this far, but I'm seeing the first bigger one to come out. A North Carolina senate seat is up, occupied by Democrat Cal Cunningham. And he has a scandal now.
He's not dropping out now. But then again, neither did Roy Moore when his scandal went public. Cunningham has a ~12 point lead there, but as far as party sentiment goes, Biden only has a 2-3 lead on Trump. Did you seriously just try to equate a guy sexting with someone who was perving on minors?
Unless you have some proof he was sexting a minor you can fuck right off with that false equivalency.
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On October 03 2020 17:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 14:28 Mohdoo wrote:
The interesting thing about it being "political" is that it all started from how fragile conservative masculinity is. Just like all other cultures based on shame and punishment, people end up pretty damn insecure and don't even really realize it. If you feel like you look silly wearing a mask, you're super duper insecure. If it feels normal to feel that way, it only shows how deep it goes. A mask can be uncomfortable, but to feel self conscious wearing one shows clear need for self improvement.
In short, if what you are wearing makes you feel less masculine, you were never masculine to begin with. You never had a deep sense of confidence and self-assuredness. It was all surface level. People really do feel a deeper sense of confidence, it is possible. Its just that for so many people, they've never even known what that feels like. Being raised by insecure men with really rigid views of masculinity happened because those men were just as broken. Shitty dads tend to keep things going. Couldn't agree more with all of that. There is something broken with masculinity anyway. That never apologizing, never admitting you are wrong, never backing off is seen as strong and masculine is also sign of how deeply insecure so many men are and how hollow their idea of masculinity is.
That's what happens when one bases their sense of masculinity based on forced pack structure in captivity: they act like a caged animal.
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I just watched some clips from the Rose Guarden meeting where many GOP politicians and staff workers were infected by Covid-19:
https://www.thecut.com/2020/10/trump-attendees-amy-coney-barrett-event-now-have-covid.html
I just have to say WOW! A plus for holding the event outside, but bringing that many people so close together, hugging, shaking hands and not giving a single F about social distancing is pretty shocking. I am not a big fan of facemasks outside, but at a crowded event like that, it would have been a good idea if there are many new infections in the area.
Also, the beautyful carma that the event itself was to celebrate a high-point of GOP hypocrisy, where they are shitting on their own "principles" for a power-grab.
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On October 03 2020 17:32 EnDeR_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 15:38 Danglars wrote:Biden really should've given an answer on whether or not he was going to sign legislation that packs the courts. If he says no, he flexes his moderate cred and "I am the Democratic party" prepped line. If he says yes, then he can excite the Bernie Sanders base into showing up to vote for somebody they might otherwise stay home for (because he's just gonna do the same corporate interest/no radical legislation track). Wallace: ... if Senate Republicans, go ahead and confirm justice Barrett, there has been talk about ending the filibuster, or even packing the court, adding to the nine justices there. You call this a distraction by the president, but in fact it wasn't brought up by the President, it was brought up by some of your Democratic colleagues in Congress. So my question to you as you have refused in the past to talk about it: Are you willing to tell the American people tonight, whether or not you will support either ending the filibuster or packing the court.
Biden: Whatever position I take on that, that'll become the issue -- the issue is, the American people should speak. Biden was asked for a fourth time after the debate, Biden: You know, that’s exactly what they want me to talk about so we don’t talk about how they’re violating the Constitution now. I’m not going to play Trump’s game. One big 'oof' there. He doesn't really have a wrong answer on yes or no. Both are better than a studied ambivalence. He must be so sure that he's going to win that it won't matter anyways, or at least his advisors have told him that. I disagree. I think this strategy is appropriate for the situation. If he had committed either way, as he says, it would dominate the news cycle and distract from Trump digging his own hole. For people on the left, just being 'not Trump' is enough motivation to vote; and if it's not, frankly, they were never going to vote for him anyway -- so that doesn't really get him extra votes on that side; I mean I genuinely think even GH would vote Biden if he was in a swing state! That only leaves moderate republicans, or the fabled independents and neither group will be turned off by his non-answer. However, ensuring that Trump has the spotlight pretty much ensures that he will do further damage to his re-election chances so overall it's a win. Let's be honest, Trump only does well when he has a clear, easy attack target; the issue with Biden is that the only thing that seems to have stuck to him is the gaffes, and just by not gaffing he's exceeding expectations which leaves little to attack him on.
Probably not actually. The debate performance, and specifically the filibuster/court question helped push me there. Just cemented how hopeless a Biden presidency is for me.
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On October 03 2020 15:38 Danglars wrote:Biden really should've given an answer on whether or not he was going to sign legislation that packs the courts. If he says no, he flexes his moderate cred and "I am the Democratic party" prepped line. If he says yes, then he can excite the Bernie Sanders base into showing up to vote for somebody they might otherwise stay home for (because he's just gonna do the same corporate interest/no radical legislation track). Show nested quote +Wallace: ... if Senate Republicans, go ahead and confirm justice Barrett, there has been talk about ending the filibuster, or even packing the court, adding to the nine justices there. You call this a distraction by the president, but in fact it wasn't brought up by the President, it was brought up by some of your Democratic colleagues in Congress. So my question to you as you have refused in the past to talk about it: Are you willing to tell the American people tonight, whether or not you will support either ending the filibuster or packing the court.
Biden: Whatever position I take on that, that'll become the issue -- the issue is, the American people should speak. Biden was asked for a fourth time after the debate, Show nested quote +Biden: You know, that’s exactly what they want me to talk about so we don’t talk about how they’re violating the Constitution now. I’m not going to play Trump’s game. One big 'oof' there. He doesn't really have a wrong answer on yes or no. Both are better than a studied ambivalence. He must be so sure that he's going to win that it won't matter anyways, or at least his advisors have told him that.
Of course he is not going to anser a question where either a yes and a no could be bad for him to some extend.
Most likely he wont do it but there is no reason to commit on the issue yet when there is still a controverisl apointment waiting.
Trump was asked if he would release his taxes,he didnt. Countless presidents have done things they said they wouldnt do (read my lips,no more taxes). He could give an anser and then do the opposite and it would still be fine,the answer more or less is meaningless to begin with so he might as well not give an answer at all if he thinks any answer could potentially be bad for him.
Not voting isnt going to help. Noone will hear the voice of the person who doesnt vote as a means to make his dissatisfaction clear.
There are some situations in which you can not make a choice but i dont think this is one of them. Isnt there a 3rd candidate people could vote for at least? If not then thats kinda weird,there have been 3rd party and independant candidates in the past so why not now.
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On October 03 2020 15:42 TheTenthDoc wrote:
For what it's worth Tillis is pretty terrible at messaging. Most of his anti-Cunningham ads I've seen here in NC have focused on policy but cast in such a way that they will energize Cunningham's own base just as much as anyone else (think saying Cunningham is supported by "liberal special interests" and showing Bernie Sanders' and Obama's faces or saying that he wants to raise taxes on the wealthy or that he supports a Green New Deal). I understand that those things all horrify people in your campaign staff, but you probably want to attack him on something that polls a little worse with North Carolinians.
Tillis is just terrible in general. Even Danglars would oppose him on his voting record on things like reupping the patriot act multiple times. What positive ad are you showing for Tillis if you're his campaign staff?
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Ron Johnson down with coronavirus despite having no real symptoms.
Ben Sasse doing the right thing and isolating despite getting a negative result because everyone around him seems to be catching it.
Dunno why everyone decided to ignore social distancing and mask wearing at the Rose Garden event because Jesus Christ its late 2020. At least its a high profile event that could go into the running for next year's ig nobel award, especially since they already killed Herman Cain with one of their super spreader events.
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Jim Acosta reports that a campaign source has told him that Trump was having trouble breathing before the walter reed transfer. The wh is saying different, but the US has always lied about the president's health, even before this administration. Not concrete proof, but it is just another bit of evidence pointing to the level of seriousness of his symptoms.
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On October 03 2020 22:53 Nevuk wrote:Jim Acosta reports that a campaign source has told him that Trump was having trouble breathing before the walter reed transfer. The wh is saying different, but the US has always lied about the president's health, even before this administration. Not concrete proof, but it is just another bit of evidence pointing to the level of seriousness of his symptoms. https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1312178864177569792
Jim Acosta isn’t a reputable source when he claims anonymous scoops. You should wait to see if somebody with less of Acosta’s reputation can also verify a source.
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On October 03 2020 23:18 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 12:40 Danglars wrote:
I think we've had a couple small October surprises this far, but I'm seeing the first bigger one to come out. A North Carolina senate seat is up, occupied by Democrat Cal Cunningham. And he has a scandal now.
He's not dropping out now. But then again, neither did Roy Moore when his scandal went public. Cunningham has a ~12 point lead there, but as far as party sentiment goes, Biden only has a 2-3 lead on Trump. WTF is the Roy Moore comparison? Do you think these two things are similar Danglars? Also, were you completely confused when the guy simply admitted it and took responsibility? Being as Moore or Trump or the rest of the people you are a fanboy for deny deny deny their scandals then move to not a big deal when it is confirmed by multiple sources. Him taking responsibility, albeit for something that is a 1 out of 10 compared to the 8-10's of republicans lately, must have blown your mind. You prefer your politicians to lie, deny, coverup and then finally if all that fails downplay. You would think after getting all worked up about something so easily proved false the other day you would calm down with the disingenuous BS. Could you please try for even like one week to not make your posts so blatantly bad and unfair. You have gotten to the point with anyone who reads this thread consistently just presumes your posts are in bad faith and then it is surprising how quickly new users catch on.
If anyone bothered to read the texts, they're the most dull flirting imaginable.
The only "offensive" thing is that some guy is cheating, in a situation where reportedly his marriage is reportedly already at the point where both partners are ready to split. Its a bad look but I'm just not seeing how anyone is really bothered by this unless we're still lying to ourselves that a good number of people with romantic partners don't dabble with people who aren't their girlfriends or wives. We've already crossed this bridge, the only thing that'd sink Cunningham is if he's a rapist or using his political power to trap this woman. And even then I don't know about that in 2020.
In all honesty, the offensive thing is the quality of flirting.
On October 03 2020 23:35 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 22:53 Nevuk wrote:Jim Acosta reports that a campaign source has told him that Trump was having trouble breathing before the walter reed transfer. The wh is saying different, but the US has always lied about the president's health, even before this administration. Not concrete proof, but it is just another bit of evidence pointing to the level of seriousness of his symptoms. https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1312178864177569792 Jim Acosta isn’t a reputable source when he claims anonymous scoops. You should wait to see if somebody with less of Acosta’s reputation can also verify a source.
Also reported by ABC, pretty sure the source there is not Acosta. It isn't new news and wouldn't be surprising. This is an obese 75 year old man who is under a significant amount of stress, has a trash diet and hasn't done any exercise beyond swinging a golf club. All bad things for something that hits the cardiovascular.
I get the point that this news isn't all that useful and I'm pretty sure Trump isn't going to die because he's the President of the United States but he's not a literal god. This virus fucks people up hard. Its not hard to believe even if you think Acosta is telling porkies.
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On October 03 2020 23:51 StalkerTL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 23:35 Danglars wrote:On October 03 2020 22:53 Nevuk wrote:Jim Acosta reports that a campaign source has told him that Trump was having trouble breathing before the walter reed transfer. The wh is saying different, but the US has always lied about the president's health, even before this administration. Not concrete proof, but it is just another bit of evidence pointing to the level of seriousness of his symptoms. https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1312178864177569792 Jim Acosta isn’t a reputable source when he claims anonymous scoops. You should wait to see if somebody with less of Acosta’s reputation can also verify a source. Also reported by ABC, pretty sure the source there is not Acosta. It isn't new news and wouldn't be surprising. This is an obese 75 year old man who is under a significant amount of stress, has a trash diet and hasn't done any exercise beyond swinging a golf club. All bad things for something that hits the cardiovascular. I get the point that this news isn't all that useful and I'm pretty sure Trump isn't going to die because he's the President of the United States but he's not a literal god. This virus fucks people up hard. Its not hard to believe even if you think Acosta is telling porkies.
All I saw ABC reporting is shortness of breath without difficulty breathing. Rested well. Fatigued but carrying on business.
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On October 04 2020 00:29 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 23:51 StalkerTL wrote:On October 03 2020 23:35 Danglars wrote:On October 03 2020 22:53 Nevuk wrote:Jim Acosta reports that a campaign source has told him that Trump was having trouble breathing before the walter reed transfer. The wh is saying different, but the US has always lied about the president's health, even before this administration. Not concrete proof, but it is just another bit of evidence pointing to the level of seriousness of his symptoms. https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1312178864177569792 Jim Acosta isn’t a reputable source when he claims anonymous scoops. You should wait to see if somebody with less of Acosta’s reputation can also verify a source. Also reported by ABC, pretty sure the source there is not Acosta. It isn't new news and wouldn't be surprising. This is an obese 75 year old man who is under a significant amount of stress, has a trash diet and hasn't done any exercise beyond swinging a golf club. All bad things for something that hits the cardiovascular. I get the point that this news isn't all that useful and I'm pretty sure Trump isn't going to die because he's the President of the United States but he's not a literal god. This virus fucks people up hard. Its not hard to believe even if you think Acosta is telling porkies. All I saw ABC reporting is shortness of breath without difficulty breathing. Rested well. Fatigued but carrying on business.
I think I saw a report stating that he had difficulty breathing around the time he got the positive result. They had a new report just now that today he's breathing fine so its probably just Trump panicking at the news.
Also in coronavirus batting averages, the virus is batting over 0.500 now with Christie officially announcing that he too has caught the 'rona.
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There's no smoking gun for saying that things are going very poorly, but the impressive list of supplements, antivirals, and experimental treatments he's being pumped up with do not sound like preventative, "abundance of caution" type measures. Transferring to a military hospital is also no preventative measure no matter how it can be spun. It all sounds more like a desperate attempt to handle worsening conditions.
In addition to being a high risk group for all the obvious reasons, he'd also have done the exact wrong thing for a presymptomatic patient from the time of the expected infection last Saturday up until the positive test result early Friday. Traveling, speaking frequently, having an erratic sleep schedule, working through any level of fatigue, and so on. High respiratory exertion has been linked to poor outcomes with this virus, and the question would be how bad the infection got before testing positive.
I guess we'll soon get to see if the antibody plasma "miracle cure" is everything it's been hyped up to be, or just another big steaming flop. The data is insufficient to be particularly conclusive, although there are certainly those around who think it to be a surefire win.
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The timeline the doctor is giving doesn't make sense. We've only known about it for little more than a day yet the doctor is saying 72 hours since diagnosis?
He's also giving the classic filler words used to describe Trump like working hard (no one is working hard when fatigued from any flu like symptoms and if they are they are an idiot) and slightly overweight (if Trump is slightly overweight, I'm a Greek God). No one needs to lie about this shit, you don't need to carry water for your boss 24/7. I'm not...entirely trusting of what this guy is saying.
Edit: 72 hours would mean Wednesday. Which means Trump was at Bedminster while having the knowledge of being positive with coronavirus...which means actively exposing staff and fundraiser attendees to the coronavirus. He knew he was symptomatic and receiving treatment yet told everyone to fuck off and went to the fundraiser anyway.
Either the doctor fucked up his timeline or Trump gets his rocks off on being a super spreader. Its a problem that both options are perfectly valid.
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Doctor is saying Trump got antibody treatment 48 hours ago. This would still mean he went to Bedminster with the knowledge of being coronavirus positive.
Either the doctor is really getting his timeline messed up, lying out of his ass or Trump is that much of an asshole to expose his fundraiser attendees to coronavirus.
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If that's true it's going to cost him very, very dearly.
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