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Bill Maher is an incredibly cringy old man who hasn't been funny or relevant since early 2000ths.
He has a podcast where he gets high and gets embarrassed by people smarter then him, which is basically anyone he has on.
Here's a much smarter and funnier man's spoof of his moronic "Trump is kind of nice in person" dinner experience:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/opinion/larry-david-hitler-dinner.html
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On July 31 2026 15:54 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2026 13:32 oBlade wrote:On July 31 2026 09:00 LightSpectra wrote:Trump Admin Argues Even Terminally Ill Patients Shouldn’t Be Exempt From Medicaid Work Requirements. Under a new policy the administration is defending in court, low-income people with cancer, HIV, Parkinson’s, and other life-threatening illnesses must prove they’re too sick to work or risk losing their health insurance: https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-medicaid-work-requirements-2677293170 You can work 80 hours a month even if you got stage 1 skin cancer. Person gets skincancer due to exposure to the sun while at work. oBlade: "Ok, just 80 instead of ~180 hours in the sun per month for you while you are treated for the illnes you got from the sun." I refuse to believe that you are a real person, the tought of living in a society where people like you roam around is just too scary.
Never quite sure if those guys are complete sociopath with no notion of compassion whatsoever or if it’s a competition at who is the toughest guy.
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On July 31 2026 16:27 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2026 15:54 Velr wrote:On July 31 2026 13:32 oBlade wrote:On July 31 2026 09:00 LightSpectra wrote:Trump Admin Argues Even Terminally Ill Patients Shouldn’t Be Exempt From Medicaid Work Requirements. Under a new policy the administration is defending in court, low-income people with cancer, HIV, Parkinson’s, and other life-threatening illnesses must prove they’re too sick to work or risk losing their health insurance: https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-medicaid-work-requirements-2677293170 You can work 80 hours a month even if you got stage 1 skin cancer. Person gets skincancer due to exposure to the sun while at work. oBlade: "Ok, just 80 instead of ~180 hours in the sun per month for you while you are treated for the illnes you got from the sun." I refuse to believe that you are a real person, the tought of living in a society where people like you roam around is just too scary. As much as that was my original reaction too. I actually think oBlade just doesn't understand what a terminal illness is. Stage 1 skin cancer is not terminal, pretty much by definition. I mean, even minor cancers not being a cause for 'maybe you should stay on insurance, because insurance is what allows you to get treatment for cancer' is in its own way horrifying A terminal illness is one that you cannot cure, and WILL eventually lead to your death. Hopefully, he is surely not suggesting that people who are for sure ill to the point of 'going to die of this disease eventually, there is no cure', should specifically be losing access to the specific thing that allows treatment for said disease to be practically accessible in the US. (except in cases where you can prove you are physically debilitated from working a certain number of hours). Because that would be moustache twirling cartoon villain territory.
I looked at the actual 400 page primary document the editorialized far-left propaganda was based on. I searched "terminal." There were 0 results. I was then left wondering what this obvious bullshit was based on. So I searched "cancer" and got 4 results.
We considered including specific conditions within our definition of a serious or complex medical condition, including human immunodeficiency virus and acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (HIV/AIDS), end stage renal disease (ESRD), cancer, and sickle cell disease (SCD) but, for reasons stated in a later paragraph, we do not believe it is reasonable to categorically consider conditions as serious or complex without factoring in criteria such as the severity of the condition.
What does this mean?
It means just because the paper with a diagnosis says "cancer" or "HIV" (entirely livable disease which is not a death sentence at all in 2026, and thinking this is the 80s when it was, just to make up the lie that cruel Blumpf wants to work AIDS patients to death or something, would border on ignorant homophobia), that's not sufficient for the enrollee's condition to meet the level of exclusion from the work requirement. That's the whole fucking point. The disease is not terminal per se.
We do not believe it would be appropriate to include an exhaustive list of conditions in regulation. However, we believe it would be reasonable for States to consider certain conditions as serious or complex, when such conditions significantly impair an individual’s ability to comply with the community engagement requirement, including cancer, ESRD, viral hepatitis, SCD, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, HIV/AIDS, sarcoidosis, cognitive impairment, heart disease, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, Parkinson’s disease, Huntington’s disease, cystic fibrosis, multiple sclerosis, spinocerebellar ataxias, muscular dystrophy, hemophilia, trauma disorders, and Thalassemia major. Examples of conditions that we would not typically expect to significantly impair an individual’s ability to meet the community engagement requirement include asthma, hypertension, anemia, generalized pain, pre-diabetes, Type I or II diabetes, obesity, psoriasis, headaches, and Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder.
We note that these are not exhaustive lists. As previously stated, according to the Institute of Medicine's report, “It is important to recognize that these conditions may be serious and complex for some patients at some points during their disease or disability. The conditions will not necessarily be serious and complex for all patients at all times.”
Their attempt to regulate the statute they're applying could hardly be more reasonable. You can't just say everybody with any cancer is exempt just as you can't say nobody with any diabetes is exempt. Every case will ultimately be different and there is no one-size-fits-all rule.
And I actually did this before it having been suggested to me that it's physically impossible for a man with stage 1 skin cancer to find work indoors. Because you have to be gullible to just swallow an article like that.
Now if the issue becomes, but unemployed adults of working age WITHOUT severe conditions should be guaranteed federal health insurance also, or 100% Marketplace subsidies under ACA, and there is confusion why people under the federal poverty line have to depend on Medicaid expansion to begin with, I would refer you to the people who passed the ACA.
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On July 31 2026 11:52 dyhb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2026 04:45 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 31 2026 04:41 Jankisa wrote:On July 31 2026 03:48 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 31 2026 02:29 Jankisa wrote:On July 30 2026 23:47 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 30 2026 13:28 Falling wrote:On July 30 2026 01:07 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 30 2026 00:39 Falling wrote:
The question cannot be answered as worded because it contains within it a contradiction. I do not think by and large establishment Democrats like Buttigieg are causing infighting. To me it's rather like demanding examples of how the King has joined the rebellion... and how can there be examples when the King is what the rebels are rebelling against. Can you point me to examples of where Buttigieg (we'll stick with him because you name him as representative of your category and I am more familiar with him) is causing infighting?
Also, who in the world is Blue MAGA in this scenario and what defines them? Sure it can. The idea that centrist/moderate/thirdway/etc Democrats are the "King" and progressives/their policy prescriptions are the rebels/rebellion is getting closer to recognizing the absurdity of Blue MAGA's inability to answer though. Blue MAGA are the people so enraptured by thirdway Democrat mythology that they are incapable of providing policies/points that centrist/moderate/thirdway Democrats need to concede on to those to their left or else those centrist/moderate/thirdway Democrats would be self-sabotaging (undermining their own political success). The king and rebels is showing showing how a question framed with a contradiction within it makes no sense and cannot be answered. I am not calling the establishment king and the leftist rebels. + Show Spoiler +
To put it in another way, it is normal for a party to have wings or factions and for there to be disagreement and shifts in momentum on what part prevails in the party. When anyone talks about the infighting from the leftists that is sabotaging the Democrat party, that is NOT what anyone is talking about. So this turnabout on what Pete and establishment dems can do to stop the infighting doesn't make any sense.
Because the infighting that is self-sabatoging is the active measures when one part of the party basically ignores the party they are ostensibly running against and exclusively tear down what is supposedly their party.
It was the leftist, not the establishment that harangued 'Genocide' Joe over Gaza and then vanished when Trump got elected and gave the keys to the kingdom to Netanyahu.
It was leftists, not the establishment that sat on their hands for the election and now say, everything Trump is doing? Harris would have done the exact same thing. (see Hasan and basically anyone on the left that argues there is no difference between Dems and MAGA... the uniparty rhetoric was also strong in MAGA)
It is leftists, not the establishment purity test every level of government official for their position on Israel/Palestine. Doesn't matter how progressive they are. If you aren't maxed out in pro-Pally, River to the Sea, Palestine will be free (of the Jews), then get the hell out, you are no progressive. (see Scott Wiener)
It is leftists, not the establishment that cucked Sanders one of the most progressive senators, replacing him at his own rally, giving right wing media all the fodder they need to show what dweebs Democrats are.
MAGA has a pipeline of White House to Fox News to big podcasters to small podcasters to spread the word of what MAGA should believe next.
Democrats struggle to even express spread a message of what they are up to and especially on leftist platforms, effectively attacked as much as one would expect had they stepped on Fox News. (See Krystal Ball try to steamroll Adam Smith ability to even answer when on Breaking Point.)
I could go on.
Policy debate within the party is good and normal and is not infighting. The tactics used to gain control over the policy that are utilized by the far left are simply not seen by establishment Dems, which is why I don't think the question can be answered as such. (Especially as many of tactics actively discourage people voting.) Buttigieg doesn't do anything close to that as he is on the attack against MAGA and one of the better communicators of what the Democrats stand for, what it should do, and why MAGA ought to be opposed. But it's those tactics which are self-sabotaging because their targets are indiscriminate. Take the strongest progressive candidate. A half year later, that same candidate is dead to the leftists.
"F you and your Zionist handlers!"
Oh. Also, I think you are really stretching to make Blue MAGA/ fetch happen. What makes MAGA, MAGA is not comparable to the malaise of establishment Dems. Completely different problems and completely different levels of loyalty to the Leader over position.
I know. There's no contradiction. Your answer is "No I don't have any either". I didn't need a rant about why you dislike leftists and blame them for so much. It seems literally none of you can comprehend that some centrists/corporate/thirdway policy is just objectively worse than its more progressive alternatives (We're talking even stuff to the right of Bernie). Not just functionally, but electorally too. This is no small part of why we can't have nice things. A smaller fraction of "leftists" than Hillary supporters didn't fall in line and they get endless blame for Democrats' unending hubris giving us Trump 2x. Democrats literally imprison, enslave, and kill Black people/socialists for 100+ years (definitively destructive infighting) and the survivors are supposed to not have any standards or expectations like "don't aid and abet fascists in genocide". This to supposedly protect themselves from the fascism (got Trump anyway despite Black people overwhelmingly supporting Democrats) those same Democrats are laying/laid the foundation for (while also aiding and abetting fascists elsewhere). It's not a good sign that the ostensible "progressives" and "leftists" here (or most places online) literally can't come up with anything centrists/moderate/thirdway Democrats need to stop infighting with progressives about and to concede on so as not to undermine the Democrats' party's capacity to accomplish its ostensible goals (the good ones) and win the races they need to (some they pushed/are pushing progressives out of). How anyone that lists some policies feels about the given policy isn't necessarily even the point. Just being able to identify any of the policies that are more popular with "independent" voters and the Democrats' own party. Basic electoral sense suggests centrists should stop infighting about those things and concede it to the "progressives/independents/leftists". This complete failure by "progressives/leftists" here and generally is a significant part of how Democrats continue to help move society deeper into a right-wing capitalist hellscape. The funniest thing is that I, in more cases then not disagree with Falling's view of what's wrong with Democrats, I mean I kind of went over most of those occurrences in my ironic reply to GH and it's easy to compare and contrast them. All of this does not mean shit to GH, because he's too busy literally doing what the issue is, purity testing people who agree with him, insulting them and ignoring what they write because it's not exactly what he had in mind. It's a great microcosm of what is wrong with progressives today. Yeah, I'm not a "progressive". It's starting to look like there aren't many left here. I do care and I do hope you all talk about it. It simply isn't an answer to the 2020 Blue MAGA version of "Who won the 2020 election" which is: Can anyone come up with any policies/points centrists/moderate/thirdway Democrats need to stop infighting with progressives about and to concede on so as not to undermine the Democrats' party's capacity to accomplish its ostensible goals (the best ones they've got anyway)? EDIT: (fixed link) Looks like you all might talk about it but that's basically what an answer from a progressive (I'd argue anyone who isn't BlueMAGA brainrotted/with a semblance of a conscience) could/should look like. Though it could have just been: just because you guys don't think that one of your closest allies murdering civilians on daily basis is something to be overlooked and ignored for the sake of "party unity" doesn't change the fact that Democrats are the only viable left option in the USA, and most left oriented people have empathy and conscience, so the leadership of the party saying: "I have many jobs as leader … and one is to fight for aid to Israel, all the aid that Israel needs." does not really sit well with them, especially if said in 2025 after 70+ k dead, many of them children. To pretend like "you have to be maxed out on pro-Pally" just reveals a level of disdain that pro-Israel centrists have for anyone who dares criticize the way the Democrats approach this topic, and it's pretty ironic that it's being posted as an attack on "pro-Pally". Most people who are up at arms over what is happening in Gaza and Lebanon are normal, rational people, and trying to blame everything wrong not just with Democrats but USA in general (as Falling did in his post insinuating it's their fault for electing Trump) is pretty unhinged. That dyhb and the rest of people that ostensibly oppose "the IDF murdering 11 and 8 year olds for the crime of crossing an invisible line to gather firewood." will in all probability be joined in a chorus by the rest of BlueMAGA demanding everyone fall in line behind dyhb and vote for the same person dyhb is who will continue to aid and abet crimes like that anyway is important too though. GH you are literally tilting and windmills. I guess good job by summoning someone who will defend what I guess you call "Blue MAGA" positions in Falling, too bad that you insulted and annoyed 100 other people in the process. The funniest part is that in doing that you actually praised your fellow victim dyhb who is basically the most prominent "Blue MAGA" poster here, if we were to believe what he says because a lot of his writings seem much more aligned with actual MAGA. Falling isn't alone, and there was no praise of dyhb + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +(EDIT: Took me a minute to realize you thought I was talking about dyhb's post being representative of a potential progressive response, not yours) . Just pointing out that everyone that has a problem with dyhb (or Falling's blaming of leftists for Democrat hubris) is going to fall in line behind dyhb to support the same candidate that will also help perpetuate crimes like "the IDF murdering 11 and 8 year olds for the crime of crossing an invisible line to gather firewood." that you (and others would I guess) ostensibly oppose so vehemently . Jankisa thought you were praising me? I was wondering where anybody thought that had ever happened. Don't worry. You'll all be singing from the same BlueMAGA hymnal soon enough. They'll fall in line behind you and you won't have to concede a thing.
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