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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On October 03 2020 06:23 Danglars wrote: Removed to Walter Reed AND lack of tweets for a dozen hours is a little concerning. If it's just precautionary, he'll have a sleepy joe tweet out before the day ends. Dan Scavino tweets for him at times | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22373 Posts
On October 03 2020 06:41 Lmui wrote: Combined with Trump's desire to look strong. If he is being moved I assume he is beyond a bit of a fever.I remember at the beginning of the epidemic, they were saying people were going from mild symptoms to collapse inside of hours. Not a good sign though, you usually don't pre-emptively move someone to the hospital, even if they are the president. On October 03 2020 06:46 eviltomahawk wrote: Boris in younger and healthier, Trumps terrible physical condition could make it go much faster.Boris Johnson's hospitalization was initially publicized as "precautionary", but he had symptoms for longer. Trump went from seemingly asymptomatic yesterday and earlier this week, to mild symptoms earlier today, to now this hospitalization. There's too much uncertainty with this rapidly developing news, especially considering how hard it is to trust these public statements when they're also trying to avoid panic. | ||
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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
I'm wondering if they put out a statement because they think Trump will die and they want people to know he was already fucked. "Trump took this company's medicine and died" is a good way to have your stock drop a bit Regardless, their methodology for keeping Trump alive is apparently nothing like I imagined it was. Environmental COVID testing can detect COVID prior to a patient showing symptoms. People's lives have been saved by environmental testing. The one thing that legitimately conclusively bodes poorly for Trump is that they weren't doing environmental testing. If they weren't testing his desk and stuff, that represents a major cost:benefit:risk failure. The cost of testing Trump's entire environment twice a day would be absolute peanuts in cost This is legitimately really big: Compassionate Drug Use What is compassionate drug use? Compassionate drug use means making a new, unapproved drug available to treat a seriously ill patient when no other treatments are available. Drugs that are being tested but have not yet been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) are called investigational drugs. These drugs are normally available only to people who are taking part in a clinical trial. Being able to use one of these drugs when you are not in a clinical trial is most commonly referred to as compassionate drug use. https://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatments-and-side-effects/clinical-trials/compassionate-drug-use.html#:~:text=What is compassionate drug use,FDA) are called investigational drugs. | ||
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r00ty
Germany1070 Posts
On October 03 2020 06:57 JimmiC wrote: If Trump is not able to run will it forsure be Pence or could the Reps pick Ivanka or whoever they wanted? They could still nominate a new candidate, but what about the votes that have already been cast? Can you reboot an election? | ||
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Slydie
1936 Posts
I also have next to no sympathy for Trump's illness, and the evil part of me even wants him to be hit really hard and stop his campaign dead in its tracks. People like Trump does not bring out the best of neither his supporters nor his enemies. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45937 Posts
On October 03 2020 07:14 Mohdoo wrote: The word compassion is super key. It may indicate Regeneron heard the situation and went "yikes". If a few different theories regarding Trump's health end up true, such as stimulant use and recent stroke, he may already be in a smidge of a checkmate situation. I'm surprised they didn't just replace all his blood right away, or at least as much as possible, but as I said above, he may have other health complications that make aggressive use of plasma transfusion risky. it can seriously go from day 1 we're good, day 2 is rough, day 3 is like barely breathing. Not commonly, but it can, especially in old people. Infection is always a differential equation, there are certain factors such as starting concentration (basically the dosage of exposure, such as spending 8 hours with someone highly infectious, vs 30 minutes with someone mildly infectious).And if Trump was on medications that weakened his immune system, which is common for various things old people happen to take. It can be like KABOOM. I'm wondering if they put out a statement because they think Trump will die and they want people to know he was already fucked. "Trump took this company's medicine and died" is a good way to have your stock drop a bit Please, please, please let Trump's eventual cause of death be that his insides were reduced to a dark plasma ball. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On October 03 2020 07:18 Slydie wrote: Obviously Trump's dealing with Covid-19 was a complete disaster, but I have to wonder how much better any other US president would have done. Being a very large country with good infrastructure, big cities and many important decisions made on the state level is not easy to deal with. Would things like closing off state borders for non-essential travel even be possible, even though it seems to be one of the most effective ways to limit the spread? I also have next to no sympathy for Trump's illness, and the evil part of me even wants him to be hit really hard and stop his campaign dead in its tracks. People like Trump does not bring out the best of neither his supporters nor his enemies. Someone in Trump's position could have tried something. And especially because state's responses will vary, having one unifying message does a lot to bring everyone onto the same page. At every opportunity, he punted the issue to the states and legitimized governors and representatives who insist no measures be taken at all. That's on him, that's something he could've done something about. Obviously, you don't blame someone if they succumb to a fire in their house, but you can damn sure hold them responsible if all they did was shrug their shoulders and continue playing with loose cans of gasoline. | ||
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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
Very little of that power was used here, and the little that was mostly wound up in the pockets of those with the least to lose. The federal government's response to the 'rona was shamefully bad and the faster we get people into power who recognize that the better. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26799 Posts
On October 03 2020 07:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Please, please, please let Trump's eventual cause of death be that his insides were reduced to a dark plasma ball. Hahahahaha | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On October 03 2020 07:47 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Trumps walk looked fine and he seems ok in this message video too https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1312158400352972800 This video looks _very_ fake. i guess it's just because i'm not used to him using a green background. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
Personally, this is a smart move, as there's no real need to run negative ads against Trump. He has so many vulnerabilities that even the less-informed than average voter will be aware of them. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On October 03 2020 07:51 Erasme wrote: This video looks _very_ fake. i guess it's just because i'm not used to him using a green background. ? it's a white wall with paintings as background. Also what would be fake about him talking to a camera for 18 seconds.He walked to the helicopter on live TV looking ok. On October 03 2020 07:58 Nevuk wrote: Biden's campaign is pivoting to only positive ads, saying it has nothing to do with Trump's hospitalization. Personally, this is a smart move, as there's no real need to run negative ads against Trump. He has so many vulnerabilities that even the less-informed than average voter will be aware of them. https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1312146075113807872 I don't know. It's a very serious election, holding back on ads seems naive. Polls may look good but lets remember 2016 and 'the win % needle' greatly favoring Hillary. No reason to attack him being sick or anything but they should definitely still point out all the shitty things he's done in office. | ||
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