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Senate pushes through six more of Trump's lifetime judicial appointments in the span of two days. Guessing there will be a lot of this in the time before the elections.
The Republican-led Senate confirmed six of President Donald Trump's judicial nominees to lifetime appointments over two days this week, even though it has delayed crucial coronavirus relief since May.
The Senate filled four federal vacancies in California and two in Illinois, Bloomberg Law reported. It is also expected to confirm two additional Illinois judges in short order.
"The Senate has confirmed six of Trump's judicial nominees in the past 30 hours," tweeted Vanita Gupta, the president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights. "These are lifetime appointments that McConnell's pushing through instead of the HEROES Act & other crucial legislation."
https://www.salon.com/2020/09/17/mitch-mcconnell-rams-through-six-trump-judges-in-30-hours-after-blocking-coronavirus-aid-for-months/
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I can't speak for Democrats and liberals but I think Biden's got a lot of well documented unacceptable (imo) behavior around women and children whether Tara Reade's allegations are true or not.
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On September 18 2020 03:52 Erasme wrote:
Sure, one allegation versus 25+.
Isn't hard to trust the word of a guy who lies 20times per day ? Or are you a hard believer of that healthcare plan supposedly coming in the next 2 weeks ? Again.
You're acting as if Trump had been nothing but honest.
The water muddying technique is always to pretend anything above 0 is the same number.
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On September 18 2020 04:45 JimmiC wrote:
I think the far right would agree with you.
Far left and far right usually have more in common than they would like to admit.
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On September 18 2020 04:28 Starlightsun wrote:Senate pushes through six more of Trump's lifetime judicial appointments in the span of two days. Guessing there will be a lot of this in the time before the elections. Show nested quote +The Republican-led Senate confirmed six of President Donald Trump's judicial nominees to lifetime appointments over two days this week, even though it has delayed crucial coronavirus relief since May.
The Senate filled four federal vacancies in California and two in Illinois, Bloomberg Law reported. It is also expected to confirm two additional Illinois judges in short order.
"The Senate has confirmed six of Trump's judicial nominees in the past 30 hours," tweeted Vanita Gupta, the president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights. "These are lifetime appointments that McConnell's pushing through instead of the HEROES Act & other crucial legislation."
https://www.salon.com/2020/09/17/mitch-mcconnell-rams-through-six-trump-judges-in-30-hours-after-blocking-coronavirus-aid-for-months/
Mitch McConnell is helping deliver on Trump's promises. The turnaround in originalists on the Federal benches is a great selling point for Trump.
Pelosi's facing some rebellious Democrats in her caucus that want her to pass a bill short of the demanded $trillion+. See, for example, Pelosi faces growing Democratic unrest over Covid relief (Politico)Cannibis relief, Meanwhile, Senate Democrats have been filibustering Covid relief bills. They have media allies that will spin it in reports, but I don't think they'll eventually prevail on the optics.
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On September 18 2020 05:03 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2020 04:45 JimmiC wrote:
I think the far right would agree with you. Far left and far right usually have more in common than they would like to admit.
This is juvenile. We also agree that 1+1 =2 Guess I might as well vote Trump now *eye roll*.
Just to be clear, if Biden behaved around my (hypothetical) kid like he did Chris Coons'/Corey Gardner's for example, we'd have a serious problem. Y'all could be okay with stuff like that if you want to be, but not me. Hell no!
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On September 18 2020 05:14 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2020 04:28 Starlightsun wrote:Senate pushes through six more of Trump's lifetime judicial appointments in the span of two days. Guessing there will be a lot of this in the time before the elections. The Republican-led Senate confirmed six of President Donald Trump's judicial nominees to lifetime appointments over two days this week, even though it has delayed crucial coronavirus relief since May.
The Senate filled four federal vacancies in California and two in Illinois, Bloomberg Law reported. It is also expected to confirm two additional Illinois judges in short order.
"The Senate has confirmed six of Trump's judicial nominees in the past 30 hours," tweeted Vanita Gupta, the president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights. "These are lifetime appointments that McConnell's pushing through instead of the HEROES Act & other crucial legislation."
https://www.salon.com/2020/09/17/mitch-mcconnell-rams-through-six-trump-judges-in-30-hours-after-blocking-coronavirus-aid-for-months/ Mitch McConnell is helping deliver on Trump's promises. The turnaround in originalists on the Federal benches is a great selling point for Trump. Pelosi's facing some rebellious Democrats in her caucus that want her to pass a bill short of the demanded $trillion+. See, for example, Pelosi faces growing Democratic unrest over Covid relief (Politico)Cannibis relief, Meanwhile, Senate Democrats have been filibustering Covid relief bills. They have media allies that will spin it in reports, but I don't think they'll eventually prevail on the optics.
Come on, McConnell has spent the last 4 years filibustering everything but judges.
The House has passed a covid bill, McConnell is not acting on it either. Is there a difference ? Even Trump told (for what his mouth is worth) them to pass a bill with more $ (well, the reelection approaches).
About these allegations, so on one side, you have an accuser that has been heavily discredited from her own personal life and swindling/cheating issues. I'm not judging the allegations themselves here, I'd love nothing more than for all of them to go to a trial, instead of these pesky settlements.
On the other side you have a dress full of sperm, and a president who refuses to get DNA tested.
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On September 18 2020 06:24 Nouar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2020 05:14 Danglars wrote:On September 18 2020 04:28 Starlightsun wrote:Senate pushes through six more of Trump's lifetime judicial appointments in the span of two days. Guessing there will be a lot of this in the time before the elections. The Republican-led Senate confirmed six of President Donald Trump's judicial nominees to lifetime appointments over two days this week, even though it has delayed crucial coronavirus relief since May.
The Senate filled four federal vacancies in California and two in Illinois, Bloomberg Law reported. It is also expected to confirm two additional Illinois judges in short order.
"The Senate has confirmed six of Trump's judicial nominees in the past 30 hours," tweeted Vanita Gupta, the president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights. "These are lifetime appointments that McConnell's pushing through instead of the HEROES Act & other crucial legislation."
https://www.salon.com/2020/09/17/mitch-mcconnell-rams-through-six-trump-judges-in-30-hours-after-blocking-coronavirus-aid-for-months/ Mitch McConnell is helping deliver on Trump's promises. The turnaround in originalists on the Federal benches is a great selling point for Trump. Pelosi's facing some rebellious Democrats in her caucus that want her to pass a bill short of the demanded $trillion+. See, for example, Pelosi faces growing Democratic unrest over Covid relief (Politico)Cannibis relief, Meanwhile, Senate Democrats have been filibustering Covid relief bills. They have media allies that will spin it in reports, but I don't think they'll eventually prevail on the optics. Come on, McConnell has spent the last 4 years filibustering everything but judges. The House has passed a covid bill, McConnell is not acting on it either. Is there a difference ? Even Trump told (for what his mouth is worth) them to pass a bill with more $ (well, the reelection approaches). About these allegations, so on one side, you have an accuser that has been heavily discredited from her own personal life and swindling/cheating issues. I'm not judging the allegations themselves here, I'd love nothing more than for all of them to go to a trial, instead of these pesky settlements. On the other side you have a dress full of sperm, and a president who refuses to get DNA tested.
Tax Cuts, Covid Relief #1, Covid Relief #2 first compromise, Covid Relief #3 second compromise, general appropriation bills (dozens), police reform bill (Dems filibustered lol), small business relief, farm bill, southern border funding bills, etc. Come on, dude.
McConnell had his own bill and Senate Democrats filibustered it. House put their favorite laundry list into the bill, swelled it's cost, and claims that cannibis relief is important in this COVID time. He's making the absolute right decision here to demand the House introduce more compromises, or for Senate Democrats to stop filibustering COVID spending and get to passing them. You'd think Pelosi owned the presidency and Senate with what she's putting out and refusing to back down from. Seriously.
Carroll's the one that went on the national news for her allegations, only to say that she thinks most women think rape is sexy. If you're going on discredited rape allegations, start with her, and move Reade way down towards the end. Pardon me, but your candidate is refusing to release the records from his Senate career to disprove her allegations that happened when she was in his employ. You are judging the allegations here, so don't deny it, ok? "heavily discredited" is your judgement.
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On September 18 2020 05:38 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2020 05:03 Erasme wrote:On September 18 2020 04:45 JimmiC wrote:
I think the far right would agree with you. Far left and far right usually have more in common than they would like to admit. This is juvenile. We also agree that 1+1 =2 Guess I might as well vote Trump now *eye roll*. Just to be clear, if Biden behaved around my (hypothetical) kid like he did Chris Coons'/Corey Gardner's for example, we'd have a serious problem. Y'all could be okay with stuff like that if you want to be, but not me. Hell no!
Why have you not bred yet? You’re supposed to be helping the revolution what better way than providing extra bodies?
Being slightly less idiotic for a moment, I’m pretty confident that Biden has engaged in some extremely poor behaviour, albeit behaviour that has been normalised, especially with the power dynamics and especially historically.
This is not to absolve Biden by any means, indeed it’s more a criticism of how much abusive behaviour has, and still is normalised.
Part of why it’s such an important and uncomfortable subject I guess is how widespread such behaviours are, indeed if not indulged I’m personally, I’d wager most of us have at least known people recounting behaviour that we laughed off in our youth that when viewed now was clearly transgressing acceptable boundaries.
Trump, he’s not so much a sexual predator as a predator in totality, including in that domain. He seems to view all human interactions in purely zero-sum transactional terms.
That said the response of liberal Dems who were shouting #MeToo from the rooftops when it was Biden in the spotlight was both deeply disappointing and not at all surprising.
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Northern Ireland26792 Posts
On September 18 2020 07:23 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2020 07:05 WombaT wrote:On September 18 2020 05:38 GreenHorizons wrote:On September 18 2020 05:03 Erasme wrote:On September 18 2020 04:45 JimmiC wrote:
I think the far right would agree with you. Far left and far right usually have more in common than they would like to admit. This is juvenile. We also agree that 1+1 =2 Guess I might as well vote Trump now *eye roll*. Just to be clear, if Biden behaved around my (hypothetical) kid like he did Chris Coons'/Corey Gardner's for example, we'd have a serious problem. Y'all could be okay with stuff like that if you want to be, but not me. Hell no! Why have you not bred yet? You’re supposed to be helping the revolution what better way than providing extra bodies? Being slightly less idiotic for a moment, I’m pretty confident that Biden has engaged in some extremely poor behaviour, albeit behaviour that has been normalised, especially with the power dynamics and especially historically. This is not to absolve Biden by any means, indeed it’s more a criticism of how much abusive behaviour has, and still is normalised. Part of why it’s such an important and uncomfortable subject I guess is how widespread such behaviours are, indeed if not indulged I’m personally, I’d wager most of us have at least known people recounting behaviour that we laughed off in our youth that when viewed now was clearly transgressing acceptable boundaries. Trump, he’s not so much a sexual predator as a predator in totality, including in that domain. He seems to view all human interactions in purely zero-sum transactional terms.
That said the response of liberal Dems who were shouting #MeToo from the rooftops when it was Biden in the spotlight was both deeply disappointing and not at all surprising. This part really confuses me. The Republican criticism of #metoo and the believe all women is that it means it will be a instant death sentence if a fake allegation is made. The response from the left and the supporters is that the #metoo and believe all women does not mean that men are Tar and feathered without proof. But rather that their allegations are not immediately dismissed because of the power disparity and investigated fully. The later happened, being disappointed legitimizes the fears of the right because this was now in hindsight a fake allegation. We should not be mad that he was not tar'd and feathered we should be pleased that it was investigated. That is how it is supposed to work. And my comment about the far right feeling the same as GH was to say that he is the same as the far right in every way. Just that he comes to his conclusions based on how much he dislikes Democrats instead of based on the facts. There will be no apology from him on all the stuff he said back when this came out, just a moving of the goal posts to the new thing he hates and usually based on a whole bunch of assumption and not very much fact Which is also why I asked for some citation or proof on Biden being anti science. I'm not saying he is not for sure, I just have never read anything he has said, or seen him say anything anti science. Yet this label gets dropped by GH and people act like it is true and discuss it as though he is anti science just less than Trump. No one bothers to check if GH is correct and he is actually anti science. The same way almost no one was Fact checking GH when he was calling Biden a Rapist. The guy has a long history of treating his assumptions as facts, demanding proof from others but never providing his own. If he wants to claim that Biden is anti science that is fine if he has some proof and actual reasons other than he does not like him because hes the leader of the Democrats.
I wouldn’t say a lot of the reaction in the vote Blue no matter who camp was immediately defensive and not a ‘let’s assume this is a credible/legitimate accusation that should be taken seriously’. Granted we all have slightly different spheres of the internet we inhabit, for me it was rather reminiscent of people dismissing the Kavanaugh accusations.
I wouldn’t have personally jumped to the conclusion that Biden was a rapist, although my own personal opinion is that a pretty good chunk of high-ranking politicians, corporate higher-ups etc from Biden’s time as a young man thru to now have probably engaged in sexual impropriety by today’s standards. Possibly a majority.
As much as a reckoning of sorts would be karmically justified, I guess the more important goal is for the environments that enabled such behaviours to be changed as such so they’re not normalised.
It’s not so much whether the accusations were true or not, merely the initial reaction to them, from dismissiveness, to the ‘well Trump did x’ deflections.
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This part really confuses me. The Republican criticism of #metoo and the believe all women is that it means it will be a instant death sentence if a fake allegation is made. The response from the left and the supporters is that the #metoo and believe all women does not mean that men are Tar and feathered without proof. But rather that their allegations are not immediately dismissed because of the power disparity and investigated fully.
I'm afraid this is rather revisionist or else motte and bailey. The concern was never 'instant death' or 'tar and feather' but immediate dismissal without due process, blacklisted without hearing who the accuser was or what you were accuse of. The argument was much stronger than allegation 'are not immediately dismissed'. Anyone can get on board with that. The original argument was start with the assumption that the allegation was true.
"they should start off with the presumption they are telling the truth." Joe Biden.
That's a world of a difference.
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Northern Ireland26792 Posts
I’m well aware of the intent and meaning behind MeToo or BelieveWomen beyond sloganeering being something akin to Sady Doyle’s framing.
Which I think is a pretty decent one. Indeed I’m not actually criticising the Democratic Party by and large here, was largely radio silence with the odd comment about the need to look into the allegations.
However a fair chunk of the Blue flag waving base online did not show that kind of restraint in letting the process run its course. Not to the degree that Trump supporters defend 49 different statements that he’s actually said in a publicly viewable press conference, but there’s a fair share of partisan myopia and looking the other way on the ostensible left too.
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Unless one can show demonstrative proof the allegations are impossible (not attack her credibility like typically happens to rape victims) calling Reade's allegations fake is extremely anti-feminist
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