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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
And is it important that the NYT owner is a Jewish family? If you'd just answered "no" none of the rest of this conversation would have happened. When you dodge, on the other hand, you can't seriously pretend to be shocked when somebody follows up your dodge. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 26 2018 16:42 Womwomwom wrote: That's the front page of the Sports section. No shit the Sports section of the New York Times is going to be reporting on these leaks. The Sports section of broadsheets have always been more serious than, say, ESPN reporting on LeBron's big game winning shot from today. How an organisation deals with problems, like the recent sexual harassment allegations against the Dallas Mavericks, are important because its really a microcosm of American organisations, businesses and life. If Mark Cuban ran the Dallas Mavericks without doing anything to stop rampant long term sexual harassment in its front office, it goes without saying that this attitude is probably also a problem in his other ventures. People report on the NFL because the NFL, as an organisation, has been hit recently with image problems. The most recent being allegations of widespread workplace sexism and league-wide censorship by freezing out Kaepernick despite him being analytically better than the average league quarterback. How they deal with these issues is a representation of the values of the organisation and their non-sports businesses. While the title itself is click-baity, the meeting gives us an inside view of how the NFL aims to deal with its image problems. Which, unlike the NBA, is to essentially do nothing at all or, in the case of conservative owners, find a way to shut down means for people to express themselves. Headlines are the original click bait. I don't think that aspect of news papers has ever really changed. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On April 26 2018 10:58 mozoku wrote: I don't have time for a full response, but I think you're greatly underestimating the agency that well-established oligolipolic news organizations have in long-term strategic shifts in editorial direction. Sure, they might be optimizing headlines on a day-to-day level where there's lots of data available to drive to decisions, but in a decision like "do we become adversarial to a presidential candidate in an unprecedented manner?", anyone who's spent any time involved in executive decision-making understands those are judgement calls where the data doesn't provide clear direction and (in part consequently) it's extremely common that personal motivating factors play a huge role. that they have agency in that is irrelevant to the actual point you made, which was about far larger matters of the political landscape, you were attributing recent effects in politics to a small number of newspapers, rather than looking at the larger landscape properly. and on the a/b choice: https://www.newstalk.com/CNN-profits-up-thanks-to-Trump there's lots of articles like that, for many sources; that demonstrate trump coverage sells. and that's why they do it. it's also well known that adversity sells; outrage sells. that's why there's so much of it. so you have to overcome the obvious, documented profit motive involved. and as to the other topic on trump doing correct things: i'm pretty sure i've seen them say trump did ok in a few places; but also, doing the right because you (you referrin to trump) were button mashing doesn't count for much, that's just gettin lucky. it's not like you actually contributed, you just didn't get in the way. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
I still count this as one more for the body count of Trump losing admin figures since it is a direct result of Trump picking someone he likes instead of someone who is a fit for the job. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15725 Posts
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
I hope they keep looking into the admiral to get to the bottom of the matter. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22015 Posts
On April 26 2018 23:45 Mohdoo wrote: I feel like at this point we are given more reason to assume the doctor's analysis of Trump was NOT truthful. Yes, this certainly ways up there with him saying Trump could live to 200 if he ate a little healthier (or whatever it was). /s I don't think anyone took him serious to begin with. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
New Lynching Memorial Is A Space 'To Talk About All Of That Anguish' Editor's note: This report contains language and an image some may find offensive. The National Memorial for Peace and Justice, opening Thursday, stands high on a hillside overlooking downtown Montgomery, Ala. Beyond the buildings you can see the winding Alabama River and hear the distant whistle of a train — the nexus that made the city a hub for the domestic slave trade. And that's where the experience begins as visitors encounter a life-size sculpture in bronze of six people in rusting shackles, including a mother with a baby in her arms. "You see the agony and the anguish and the suffering in these figures," says Bryan Stevenson, founder and director of the Equal Justice Initiative, the non-profit legal advocacy group that created the memorial. "It's people in distress," Stevenson says. "And I don't think we've actually done a very good job of acknowledging the pain and agony, the suffering, the humiliation, the complete denial of humanity that slavery created for black people on this continent." Stevenson serves as a tour guide through the somber space – which remembers the nation's history of racial terror, representing a journey from slavery to the period after the Civil War, and before the civil rights movement. Source About damn time. I didn't know this was being created, but I'm glad one state finally decided to have the guts to create one. People should go into the article itself, the photos are really striking and the rest of the article is a good read. The biggest bummer is that it took until 2018 to create a public space to memorialize these terrible events. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On April 27 2018 01:46 Plansix wrote: Source About damn time. I didn't know this was being created, but I'm glad one state finally decided to have the guts to create one. People should go into the article itself, the photos are really striking and the rest of the article is a good read. The biggest bummer is that it took until 2018 to create a public space to memorialize these terrible events. Well, now you've created the public space, there's plenty of room for even bigger bummers to emerge as people complain about its existence. It's really good that it exists, but I bet some nasty things are going to go down there. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
In the interest of being neutral, I'm just going to link the transcript from Fox News. It is pretty rambly. But overall Trump airs a lot of grievances. It kind of keeps declining to the point the interviewers kind of cut him off before he says something really bad it feels lile. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
SDNY prosecutors and Daniel's attorney are already jumping all over the quotes. Guy is his own worst enemy and remains the worst client a lawyer could possibly get. The idea that he could talk with Mueller and not perjure himself is laughable. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On April 27 2018 03:35 ticklishmusic wrote: So, catching up on news and I saw the Trump interview on Fox & Friends. In the interest of being neutral, I'm just going to link the transcript from Fox News. It is pretty rambly. But overall Trump airs a lot of grievances. It kind of keeps declining to the point the interviewers kind of cut him off before he says something really bad it feels lile. The dubious jumps his brain makes is nothing we haven't already seen from his past speeches, but damn there is just nothing else like it in the political arena. Honestly, I'm sitting here thinking of a way to be critical about this without preaching to the choir, but what the fuck. I'm never gonna get used to the way he speaks. Something is just off. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On April 27 2018 03:47 Tachion wrote: The dubious jumps his brain makes is nothing we haven't already seen from his past speeches, but damn there is just nothing else like it in the political arena. Honestly, I'm sitting here thinking of a way to be critical about this without preaching to the choir, but what the fuck. I'm never gonna get used to the way he speaks. Something is just off. It comes off as extremely ADHD. Most people I know (myself included) who have some degree of ADHD try to control it - they realize they have a tendency to jump from one topic to another, but actively try to not do so and complete their thoughts. Trump just doesn't. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23535 Posts
On April 27 2018 01:46 Plansix wrote: Source About damn time. I didn't know this was being created, but I'm glad one state finally decided to have the guts to create one. People should go into the article itself, the photos are really striking and the rest of the article is a good read. The biggest bummer is that it took until 2018 to create a public space to memorialize these terrible events. "Why would you talk about the difficult past?" The Equal Justice Initiative is also opening a Legacy Museum that draws a direct line from slavery to lynching to issues the country faces today, including mass incarceration. "There's a lot of conflict. There's a lot of tension," he says. "We're dealing with police violence. We deal with these huge disparities in our criminal justice system. You know, if everything was wonderful you could ask the question 'why would you talk about the difficult past?' But everything is not wonderful." I have to say I find it slightly strange that the proclaimed "Sovereign citizen" that stole a BMW and got arrested at the white house and allegedly was kicked out of a Publix for shouting racial slurs, didn't come up here after he finally committed an apparently racially motivated mass shooting killing 4 people with an AR 15 before a brave unarmed young man was able to stop him and save the rest of the people in the restaurant. I find it particularly strange because both race and guns came up and the biggest story tying them together was completely ignored here. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11698 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/04/trump-cabinet-tracker/510527/ | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On April 27 2018 01:46 Plansix wrote: Source About damn time. I didn't know this was being created, but I'm glad one state finally decided to have the guts to create one. People should go into the article itself, the photos are really striking and the rest of the article is a good read. The biggest bummer is that it took until 2018 to create a public space to memorialize these terrible events. There's also the Whitney Plantation It's the only plantation site that really delves into the human cost of the Antebellum South. It's not a national monument, but there is some cool stuff there. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23535 Posts
On April 27 2018 03:56 Simberto wrote: I basically get my news about US stuff from this thread. As much as you may not like my posting style I can assure you you're missing a lot. One that comes to mind is the tweet that was posted about Pompeo's nomination. The next tweet from the same guy clarified it wasn't really in danger and as we saw Paul, and at least 2 Democrats are already on board with putting the 'ex' head of the CIA in charge of the state department, and several members of the Obama administration approve of a torture lackey in charge of the CIA. On April 27 2018 03:58 PhoenixVoid wrote: Ronny Jackson withdrew, but Trump did get Pompeo as his secretary of state. Vote went 57-42 with six red state Dems and Angus King choosing for him. Next big cabinet member up for nomination should be Haspel I believe. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/04/trump-cabinet-tracker/510527/ Well there you go lol. EDIT: This is really bad btw, like terrible bad, like shouldn't be members of the party bad. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 27 2018 03:56 Simberto wrote: I basically get my news about US stuff from this thread. I try to post as many news articles that I finish readings and I think will stoke some discussion. But I also had a 101 degree fever for 4 days, so I might have missed a bunch. Someone should just bit the bullet and just posts 5 or so links to topical news articles and see if the mods give a shit. Just dump it in one post and say News of the day 4/26! | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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