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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
It's kind of another awkward consequence of the electoral college-in a two party agglomerated winner-take-all system, the optimal strategy is to only hold primaries in the purple states and ignore everywhere else. (that is, in a vacuum-people would obviously not be happy if either party adopted this strategy or even edged towards it because people place different relative values on winning and the cost of winning) | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12570 Posts
I still don't know how to function in situations where the media can't be trusted :/ | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10011 Posts
On February 25 2019 04:03 Nebuchad wrote: I've seen a bunch of people saying that the aid convoy at the border of Venezuela was set on fire by people from the opposition, and not by the army as it's been reported. There were two videos about molotovs to back this up, one where they prepared them, and one where it is thrown at the convoy. Is this fake news? I still don't know how to function in situations where the media can't be trusted :/ If the facts are completely unclear best not to have an opinion maybe. Its what I've thought about Syria for years. | ||
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Slydie
2014 Posts
On February 25 2019 03:45 TheTenthDoc wrote: I think there's also a lot of not-so-obvious friction going on because who you need to vote for you to win the primary and who you need to vote for you to win the general is pretty damn different and growing more different every day (definitely on the D ticket, maybe on the R ticket as well). Except insofar as people vote for those in the primary that they think will win the general. It's kind of another awkward consequence of the electoral college-in a two party agglomerated winner-take-all system, the optimal strategy is to only hold primaries in the purple states and ignore everywhere else. (that is, in a vacuum-people would obviously not be happy if either party adopted this strategy or even edged towards it because people place different relative values on winning and the cost of winning) I honestly think they should. It is the only way to eventually force a change to a flawed and unfair system in favour of a simpler, cleaner and more fair popular vote across the whole country. Trump already won by only campaigning where he had something to gain, so the DEMs would be beyond stupid not to follow suit. Note that the Republicans also lose out on a lot of votes in populated blue states. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12570 Posts
On February 25 2019 04:24 Jockmcplop wrote: If the facts are completely unclear best not to have an opinion maybe. Its what I've thought about Syria for years. That's been what I'm advocating so far, but the question keeps coming back. And in a way where I'm not super comfortable with it. Like, let's say that the narrative of the US backed coup is completely correct, and we're standing there with no opinion because it's hard to gauge what is true or not... That position is functionally no different from acceptance. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18464 Posts
On February 25 2019 12:12 Nebuchad wrote: That's been what I'm advocating so far, but the question keeps coming back. And in a way where I'm not super comfortable with it. Like, let's say that the narrative of the US backed coup is completely correct, and we're standing there with no opinion because it's hard to gauge what is true or not... That position is functionally no different from acceptance. I'm going to go with "don't trust the guy who has spent the last 10 years consolidating power while the country descends into chaos around him" | ||
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Acamar
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On February 25 2019 18:56 Acamar wrote: Can you guys stop talking about Venezuela in the US politics thread? Since the US isn't an isolated country where things only happen inside a bubble in which it in no way affects anyone else and no one affects it: No. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18464 Posts
On February 25 2019 18:56 Acamar wrote: Can you guys stop talking about Venezuela in the US politics thread? If the US stops meddling in Venezuela's business, maybe. That said, I am not against the US being vocal in its support of Guaido. Trump threatening military intervention is probably doing more harm than good, and giving Bolsonaro ideas about military adventures is also not great. But lets face it: we're talking about Venezuela because it's relevant to US foreign policy at the moment. It might merit its own thread, but I'm sure the mods are capable of telling us that, rather than a PBU 4-post troll account. | ||
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Acamar
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Acamar
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micronesia
United States24805 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18464 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
Meanwhile the Chinese vice premier Liu He sitting there can't hide a chuckle of laughter at this absurd situation. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46511 Posts
On February 25 2019 23:37 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Watch the well oiled machine and top deal maker at work. President and The United States Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer seem to have completely different views on what they have agreed on. Ending with 'ok ok we'll never use the term memorandum of understanding again' Meanwhile the Chinese vice premier Liu He sitting there can't hide a chuckle of laughter at this absurd situation. https://twitter.com/economics/status/1099357290791022593 Never thought I'd actually say this, but Trump is right and the other guy is wrong about an MOU. "In business, an MOU is typically a legally non-binding agreement between two (or more) parties, that outlines terms and details of a mutual understanding or agreement, noting each party's requirements and responsibilities -- but without establishing a formal, legally enforceable contract (though an MOU is often a first step towards the development of a formal contract).[1][2]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorandum_of_understanding | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
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