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Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
February 18 2019 22:05 GMT
#22521
On February 19 2019 02:59 JimmiC wrote:
Or when you campainged on how lazy Obama was with his golfing.

Also remember he has a full sized golf sim at the whitehouse as well.


To be perfectly fair, I read that Obama had that sim built, and Trump just had it upgraded, for around 50k. (which doesn't sound like a lot. It's like 2 cisco switches.)
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 00:23:02
February 19 2019 00:13 GMT
#22522
On February 19 2019 04:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So why isn't the FBI in full blown investigation mode yet, along with a new election? This is highly illegal yet I have a feeling that nothing is going to be done to the tribal style of this country's politics.

<snip>

Show nested quote +
Lisa Britt, a worker for political operative McCrae Dowless, said during the North Carolina board of elections hearing Monday that Dowless instructed his employees to fill out illegally collected absentee ballots with votes for the Republican candidates.

The hearing is to investigate alleged election fraud in North Carolina’s 9th district.

Britt said that most of the ballots had the congressional race and sheriff’s race filled out, as those were the major elections that topped the ballots. She said that Dowless’ cohort would fill in the empty votes for more minor, down-ballot races.

“Basically what we would do — what I would do — is to submit the vote for whoever was the Republican,” Britt testified.

Britt said that they would tamper with the ballots at Dowless’ home or office.

Earlier in her testimony, she said that Dowless had told her to plead the 5th Amendment since “they have nothing on us.”


Source


Looks like there is some nice witness tampering going on with this as well. I think I'll be pleasantly surprised if he is sentenced to more than a year in prison at this point. Probably could have gotten away with it if his step daughter didn't throw him under the bus as well.

The paper read: “I can tell you that I haven’t done anything wrong in the election and McCrae Dowless has never told me to do anything wrong, and to my knowledge he has never done anything wrong, but I am taking the 5th Amendment because I don’t have an attorney and I feel like you will try to trip me up. I am taking the 5th.”

source
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10657 Posts
February 19 2019 00:57 GMT
#22523
I wonder which Dem runner is gonna lose to Trump again. I don’t mind Trump a second term as president tbh. First I didn’t care, now I actually wanna see what he can get done in 8 years that Obama couldn’t.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 19 2019 01:02 GMT
#22524
--- Nuked ---
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 01:17:43
February 19 2019 01:11 GMT
#22525
On February 19 2019 09:57 Emnjay808 wrote:
I wonder which Dem runner is gonna lose to Trump again. I don’t mind Trump a second term as president tbh. First I didn’t care, now I actually wanna see what he can get done in 8 years that Obama couldn’t.

Beside throwing the kids of asylum-seekers in cages and losing them, increasing the taxes of folks like me to give mega-corporations a tax break, and frivolously declaring a national emergency because he couldn't get what he wanted per the provisions of our system of government, what has he really done?
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 02:07:23
February 19 2019 02:06 GMT
#22526
On February 19 2019 10:11 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2019 09:57 Emnjay808 wrote:
I wonder which Dem runner is gonna lose to Trump again. I don’t mind Trump a second term as president tbh. First I didn’t care, now I actually wanna see what he can get done in 8 years that Obama couldn’t.

Beside throwing the kids of asylum-seekers in cages and losing them, increasing the taxes of folks like me to give mega-corporations a tax break, and frivolously declaring a national emergency because he couldn't get what he wanted per the provisions of our system of government, what has he really done?


Wow, way to sell our great president trump short. He also put a political actor and rapist on the supreme court, alienated the last of our allies, raised the national debt by a very large margin, and gave putin some of the best blowjobs he's ever had. Oh also hurt the stock market significantly by threatening to and attempting to start trade wars.
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
February 19 2019 02:14 GMT
#22527
On February 19 2019 11:06 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2019 10:11 NewSunshine wrote:
On February 19 2019 09:57 Emnjay808 wrote:
I wonder which Dem runner is gonna lose to Trump again. I don’t mind Trump a second term as president tbh. First I didn’t care, now I actually wanna see what he can get done in 8 years that Obama couldn’t.

Beside throwing the kids of asylum-seekers in cages and losing them, increasing the taxes of folks like me to give mega-corporations a tax break, and frivolously declaring a national emergency because he couldn't get what he wanted per the provisions of our system of government, what has he really done?


Wow, way to sell our great president trump short. He also put a political actor and rapist on the supreme court, alienated the last of our allies, raised the national debt by a very large margin, and gave putin some of the best blowjobs he's ever had. Oh also hurt the stock market significantly by threatening to and attempting to start trade wars.

Look, limited short-term memory is a bitch. I can't hold onto all his healthy greatness at once.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42957 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 03:38:14
February 19 2019 03:27 GMT
#22528
On February 19 2019 11:06 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2019 10:11 NewSunshine wrote:
On February 19 2019 09:57 Emnjay808 wrote:
I wonder which Dem runner is gonna lose to Trump again. I don’t mind Trump a second term as president tbh. First I didn’t care, now I actually wanna see what he can get done in 8 years that Obama couldn’t.

Beside throwing the kids of asylum-seekers in cages and losing them, increasing the taxes of folks like me to give mega-corporations a tax break, and frivolously declaring a national emergency because he couldn't get what he wanted per the provisions of our system of government, what has he really done?


Wow, way to sell our great president trump short. He also put a political actor and rapist on the supreme court, alienated the last of our allies, raised the national debt by a very large margin, and gave putin some of the best blowjobs he's ever had. Oh also hurt the stock market significantly by threatening to and attempting to start trade wars.

It was pretty funny when they announced out of the blue, on Twitter of all places, that the banks weren't in any danger of collapse, something nobody thought was an issue until they started cryptically tweeting about the emergency conference calls with bank CEOs to verify that it was fine. 5% wiped off the value of the US markets on Christmas Eve.

That's the kind of governance that we just wouldn't get under any other leadership.

It's not just the failure to keep the basics going like government employees paid or good relations with fucking Canada, it's the remarkable stuff that wasn't even on the radar.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 04:17:11
February 19 2019 03:45 GMT
#22529
The more I read about Barr and how his Son-in-law is now a legal advisor for Trump scares me for the future. Arguably Barr and Mueller are suppose good friends, but it just smells like ides of March... Rosenstein is apparently leaving in March, and reading on Barr, this guy seems to agree with what the "republican" party stands for.
Life?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21783 Posts
February 19 2019 10:44 GMT
#22530
On February 19 2019 12:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
The more I read about Barr and how his Son-in-law is now a legal advisor for Trump scares me for the future. Arguably Barr and Mueller are suppose good friends, but it just smells like ides of March... Rosenstein is apparently leaving in March, and reading on Barr, this guy seems to agree with what the "republican" party stands for.
Agreeing with what the Republican party stands for is not a disqualifying characteristic in and of itself.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44584 Posts
February 19 2019 12:22 GMT
#22531
Bernie has just officially announced that he's running for president:

"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21783 Posts
February 19 2019 12:42 GMT
#22532
On February 19 2019 21:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Bernie has just officially announced that he's running for president:
A mistake imo.
aside from the fact he is going to face a more diverse and difficult field during the primaries the guy is going to be 79 before he would be sworn in.
He is just to old and would have been better off throwing his cause behind someone younger.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
February 19 2019 12:46 GMT
#22533
Still feeling' the Bern here :D
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 19 2019 12:50 GMT
#22534
Hahaha I love Bernie going hard at Howard Schultz
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44584 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 13:06:09
February 19 2019 13:05 GMT
#22535
On February 19 2019 21:42 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2019 21:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Bernie has just officially announced that he's running for president:
A mistake imo.
aside from the fact he is going to face a more diverse and difficult field during the primaries the guy is going to be 79 before he would be sworn in.
He is just to old and would have been better off throwing his cause behind someone younger.


That "someone younger" could be his runningmate, allowing him to hand off the baton to whoever he feels would best champion his causes *if* he dies in office. I agree with you that he's old, but I'd much rather have an old, moral, intelligent president over a younger (Trump is 72 and in worse health than Bernie... that's the bar we're setting here, since Trump is currently president and all-but-guaranteed to be the Republican nominee for the general election), ignorant imbecile.

I think if someone isn't going to support Bernie, it should be for reasons other than his age.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18048 Posts
February 19 2019 13:12 GMT
#22536
On February 19 2019 22:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2019 21:42 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 19 2019 21:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Bernie has just officially announced that he's running for president:
A mistake imo.
aside from the fact he is going to face a more diverse and difficult field during the primaries the guy is going to be 79 before he would be sworn in.
He is just to old and would have been better off throwing his cause behind someone younger.


That "someone younger" could be his runningmate, allowing him to hand off the baton to whoever he feels would best champion his causes *if* he dies in office. I agree with you that he's old, but I'd much rather have an old, moral, intelligent president over a younger (Trump is 72 and in worse health than Bernie... that's the bar we're setting here, since Trump is currently president and all-but-guaranteed to be the Republican nominee for the general election), ignorant imbecile.

I think if someone isn't going to support Bernie, it should be for reasons other than his age.

Age seems like a perfectly good reason. Especially in the primary when running mates aren't really talked about yet. You don't pick the president just on what he stands for, but also on his ability to execute. 79 is really flipping old, and even being in good health doesn't mean he will stay so when doing a high stress job for 4 years. And you don't elect Bernie to backdoor in his chosen VP: in that case just vote for who he wants as VP?

Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21783 Posts
February 19 2019 13:13 GMT
#22537
On February 19 2019 22:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2019 21:42 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 19 2019 21:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Bernie has just officially announced that he's running for president:
A mistake imo.
aside from the fact he is going to face a more diverse and difficult field during the primaries the guy is going to be 79 before he would be sworn in.
He is just to old and would have been better off throwing his cause behind someone younger.


That "someone younger" could be his runningmate, allowing him to hand off the baton to whoever he feels would best champion his causes *if* he dies in office. I agree with you that he's old, but I'd much rather have an old, moral, intelligent president over a younger (Trump is 72 and in worse health than Bernie... that's the bar we're setting here, since Trump is currently president and all-but-guaranteed to be the Republican nominee for the general election), ignorant imbecile.

I think if someone isn't going to support Bernie, it should be for reasons other than his age.
There are other candidates then Bernie. The Democrats don't have to go for the guy who is not unlikely to die of old age while in office in order to be able to beat Trump.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28683 Posts
February 19 2019 13:15 GMT
#22538
79 is a legit drawback. But he's still my preferred candidate. He seems totally sharp and like he is in very good health, for a 79 year old, too.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11552 Posts
February 19 2019 13:19 GMT
#22539
But still, i think that a government shouldn't only be run by people who are way past retirement age. The candidates just seem to be getting older and older. Probably because the older you are, the more time you have had to build a reputation and gain favors with other people. But still. At some point the old should step back and let the "young" handle things (And young is usually still 50+)

I am not the biggest fan of government by geriatrics.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 19 2019 13:28 GMT
#22540
As said last election Sanders is the type of politician that the country needs, but not the one it deserves. The DNC seems to be filing behind Harris along with the donors etc.
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