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IIICodeIIIIIII
Profile Joined April 2006
China1101 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-30 15:24:42
March 30 2007 15:24 GMT
#1
Apparently, for all traffic lights, there is a sensor next to the light that senses when ambulances or police cars are coming (I'm pretty sure of this actually).

What is amazing is that the code is apparently something that a universal remote can be hijacked to send too. Can I get some input on this? Seems pretty easy to do if you have a universal remote. Granted I'm a student without TV, but someone on this forum must have one.

http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/94659/Change_Traffic_Lights_With_A_Universal_Remote.html
dupek
Profile Joined January 2007
Switzerland214 Posts
March 30 2007 16:12 GMT
#2
hm probably it may be possible to do, but i dont think that the code you have to program is as easy as 911.
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Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
March 30 2007 16:16 GMT
#3
sounds like an april's fool joke too me. besides that, the sensor is under the road afaik, might be wrong on this one though.
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-30 16:53:51
March 30 2007 16:49 GMT
#4
afaik, the shit is all on timers, no sensors involved at all


oh, and that video is bullshit
TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
March 30 2007 16:51 GMT
#5
I don't know where you're from, but around here... ambulances and emergency vehicles don't change traffic lights. Everyone just slows down or stops, then whoever is in front of the ambulance moves until they're out of the way.

I think that video is full of crap. I've never heard about anything like this.
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-30 16:54:13
March 30 2007 16:53 GMT
#6
On March 31 2007 01:51 TheosEx wrote:
I don't know where you're from, but around here... ambulances and emergency vehicles don't change traffic lights. Everyone just slows down or stops, then whoever is in front of the ambulance moves until they're out of the way.

I think that video is full of crap. I've never heard about anything like this.


I don't know where you're from, but around here if a light is red at an intersection and there's a shitton of traffic in the way, the ambulance changes the light. It definitely happens, and those signlas are definitely real.

On March 31 2007 01:49 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
afaik, the shit is all on timers, no sensors involved at all


There are sensors in the ground for many, if not most of them.

On March 31 2007 01:16 Aepplet wrote:
sounds like an april's fool joke too me. besides that, the sensor is under the road afaik, might be wrong on this one though.


It is, but there's a flashing light on top of the things. The video quite clearly showed that.
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IIICodeIIIIIII
Profile Joined April 2006
China1101 Posts
March 30 2007 17:09 GMT
#7
On March 31 2007 01:49 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
afaik, the shit is all on timers, no sensors involved at all


oh, and that video is bullshit


hehe, ya, ambulances all time their runs so the traffic light turns green.. psht, duh obviously.... huh? maybe your intelligence is an april fools joke =} . not that the video is completely legit... just wanted to see if someone had a remote to give it a try.
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
March 30 2007 17:48 GMT
#8
This is the dumbest thing i've ever read! There is no sensors in traffic lights, lol who's stupid enough to believe that? :D.
TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
March 30 2007 17:50 GMT
#9
I guess it is real after all... but highly illegal.


http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2005/08/68507

http://www.i-hacked.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=176

http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/irresponsible_activities/changingtraffi191404.html


Googled "Ambulance change traffic lights" - the list goes on and on...
IIICodeIIIIIII
Profile Joined April 2006
China1101 Posts
March 30 2007 18:03 GMT
#10
so now i wonder about canada and mexico...
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2609 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-30 18:35:05
March 30 2007 18:34 GMT
#11
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/11/05/traffic.lights.ap/

Edit: I don't think a remote has the range, speed or power.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
March 30 2007 19:12 GMT
#12
eh? speed/power?
it's a signal ur sending not a missile lol...
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Magicbox
Profile Joined June 2004
Denmark73 Posts
March 30 2007 19:25 GMT
#13
On March 31 2007 02:48 MadNeSs wrote:
This is the dumbest thing i've ever read! There is no sensors in traffic lights, lol who's stupid enough to believe that? :D.


As a Dane you should know better

They (the Danish government) once considered experimenting with sensors in traffic lights so emergency vehicles could move unhinderede trough the traffic, but the idea was dropped, because of its abusiveness.

Here we just stop or drive in to the side if there's an emergency vehicle coming.
itemlock
Profile Joined January 2007
United States256 Posts
March 30 2007 22:21 GMT
#14
This is real and it's nothing new...
???
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
March 30 2007 22:35 GMT
#15
On March 31 2007 07:21 itemlock wrote:
This is real and it's nothing new...


New to me.
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NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
March 31 2007 02:05 GMT
#16
On March 31 2007 04:12 evanthebouncy~ wrote:
eh? speed/power?
it's a signal ur sending not a missile lol...
Uh yea, a signal likely being transmitted by a device operating on AA batteries. Range ~ 10 meters.
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AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
March 31 2007 03:04 GMT
#17
yeah there's sensors in stop lights.
try flashing your brights a few times at a red light, sometimes it works ;D
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NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
March 31 2007 03:09 GMT
#18
Btw, this is not true of every stoplight in the country. I've seen police and ambulance's run red lights numerous times in heavy traffic. I think they only add these in more metropolitan cities.
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TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
March 31 2007 05:45 GMT
#19
Which would make it not worth it to go to jail and/or fined $10,000.

FYI: I don't think I've ever seen this in NY. Maybe it's the more newly built metropolitan cities.
pr0n
Profile Joined September 2005
United States277 Posts
March 31 2007 05:55 GMT
#20
SOME traffic lights have them.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
March 31 2007 06:00 GMT
#21
I've never seen this in Germany for sure :>
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j0ehoe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States2705 Posts
March 31 2007 06:04 GMT
#22
its defintiely select cities if its real. ive got around 80k here and its defintiely not going on here.
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Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
March 31 2007 06:09 GMT
#23
i dunno if its real, but there is a guy who got arrested for buying something off ebay that could change lights

he did it every morning at like 530 or something

and eventually they figured out that the light kept malfunctioning as soon as his van arrived..
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
MnMForever
Profile Joined February 2007
United States12 Posts
March 31 2007 07:04 GMT
#24
Idea does seem probable. If you look closely sometimes at certain lights there's a small, black, upright cylinder with what seems like a IR sensor sticking out of it. It could be a camera or numerous other things but the idea doesn't seem too far fetched. However, i doubt it would be possible to make a universal remote that will activate the sensor. There's no way for you to find out what the proper signal is since it doesn't seem to be universalized, and i doubt you'll be able to send a signal far enough to make it practical. If your range on the remote is only 20 feet it'll require you to slow down to like 10 mph unless you wanta risk running a red light and smacking into some unsuspecting motorist .
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
March 31 2007 07:41 GMT
#25
On March 31 2007 02:09 IIICodeIIIIIII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2007 01:49 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
afaik, the shit is all on timers, no sensors involved at all


oh, and that video is bullshit


hehe, ya, ambulances all time their runs so the traffic light turns green.. psht, duh obviously.... huh? maybe your intelligence is an april fools joke =} . not that the video is completely legit... just wanted to see if someone had a remote to give it a try.


way to take what i said out of context, moron
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6175 Posts
March 31 2007 08:08 GMT
#26
They can be hacked but not with a remote control.. -_-
IIICodeIIIIIII
Profile Joined April 2006
China1101 Posts
March 31 2007 08:18 GMT
#27
On March 31 2007 16:41 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2007 02:09 IIICodeIIIIIII wrote:
On March 31 2007 01:49 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
afaik, the shit is all on timers, no sensors involved at all


oh, and that video is bullshit


hehe, ya, ambulances all time their runs so the traffic light turns green.. psht, duh obviously.... huh? maybe your intelligence is an april fools joke =} . not that the video is completely legit... just wanted to see if someone had a remote to give it a try.


way to take what i said out of context, moron


haha. loser. try writing better so u make sense.

CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-31 08:38:40
March 31 2007 08:26 GMT
#28
Don't the emergency vehicles turn all the lights red and just run the red light? I don't think they turn them green if thats even possible, the abuse/hack problem is why. I know near most traffic signals there is a control box and if you have a key you can set the lights to cycle differently, or all hold red, or flash red etc. My tweeker friend's dad was a police chief he had all these keys and wierd shit that cops have to control things. I don't think flashhing light sensors changes lights. This sounds like a job for Adam & Jamie

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That video is definitely a hoax. Even if it did work the range on a remote for your tv would never be enough.


PS- I've also heard that if you press the crosswalk button 100 times as fast as you can it will change the light to let you walk. I'm pretty sure that doesn't work.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
March 31 2007 08:35 GMT
#29
There's always different things. Some are controlled under the ground, some lights react to the specific light from the police's flashing lights.

That's why you see certain drivers flash their highbeam when the light isn't changing quickly enough.
Hot77.iEy
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Finland1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-31 08:54:29
March 31 2007 08:50 GMT
#30
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_signal_preemption
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_lights#Unauthorised_pre-emption

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There have been some concerns that unauthorized people may have obtained devices that can trigger light preemption. The original 3M Opticom pre-emption system was activated by a 14 Hz strobe light added to the light bar of fire trucks, ambulances, and squad cars. When the sensor senses the 14 Hz strobe signal, the pre-emption is activated. The 14 Hz "secret" was eventually discovered, and MIRTs (Mobile InfraRed Transmitters) hit the market, consisting of a 14 Hz strobe with an infrared filter installed on it to make the light invisible to the naked eye. The use or sale of such devices in an unauthorized context was made illegal in the United States in 2005.

In some jurisdictions, traffic lights are set to turn red in all directions when the pre-emption system is activated, rather than holding one direction green to allow an emergency vehicle to proceed with traffic. This stops all traffic except for emergency vehicles, which are permitted to proceed through a red signal anyway, and thus removes much of the incentive for an unauthorized person to manipulate the pre-emption system to their own benefit.

3M has developed an encrypted Opticom system.[5] However, jurisdictions already using the original system would have to replace the original traffic signal sensors and vehicle-mounted emitters in order to use the encrypted system.

There have been recent concerns about the security of traffic light preemptive systems and the actual underlying network controlling them and traffic lights in general. An article in the hacker E-zine Phrack has outlined flaws in the traffic controlling system that could allow an unauthorized malicious person to abuse it as he sees fit. By issuing valid signal controlling messages from the area traffic control center if access is gained to it, an attacker could essentially control any phase, test phase, preemptive signals, or any function of the traffic system that is controllable remotely. The article also sparked a response by Transport for London where it is reported that a skilled attacker armed with this “step-by-step” guide could in fact cause malicious damage, as reported by a Transport for London spokesman..
-.-
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
March 31 2007 08:58 GMT
#31
I want to subscribe to a hacker magazine.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
~AreS]
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada2170 Posts
March 31 2007 09:25 GMT
#32
This exists, it works, and it's incredibly illegal. You're allowed to have one, but if you're found using it, good luck in life.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
March 31 2007 11:34 GMT
#33
On March 31 2007 17:26 CharlieMurphy wrote:
PS- I've also heard that if you press the crosswalk button 100 times as fast as you can it will change the light to let you walk. I'm pretty sure that doesn't work.


Try 1000 then. Or some number in between. I bet it works
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