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CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
August 02 2015 01:48 GMT
#381
Hey man speak for yourself. Super Metroid is one of my favorite runs every GDQ and I hope it keeps showing up. Sometimes a player dies because the run is tough, really well routed and has a lot of execution.
sacrilegious
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada863 Posts
August 02 2015 01:49 GMT
#382
Actually I take it back, WR's can be obtained anytime... $300k+ for a worthwhile charity is a huge deal

Though again, if he passed skipped that Super Metroid draining Samus part to get the WR I woulda said screw it and go for the WR
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 02 2015 01:50 GMT
#383
On August 02 2015 10:49 sacrilegious wrote:
Actually I take it back, WR's can be obtained anytime... $300k+ for a worthwhile charity is a huge deal

Though again, if he passed skipped that Super Metroid draining Samus part to get the WR I woulda said screw it and go for the WR


Canonly the animals survive no matter what. Technically ignoring them saves them
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 02 2015 01:53 GMT
#384
On August 02 2015 10:38 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2015 10:30 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 02 2015 10:24 Drazerk wrote:
On August 02 2015 10:20 Uldridge wrote:
I don't know man, I mean, it's speedrunning marathon for a good cause, I don't think it should be absolutely the most important thing to get the fastest time ever.
Firstly, they're put "before" 100+k people, some are very nervous
Secondly, people might donate more the more entertaining the run is people are watching. If you have an obnoxious as hell person needing serious time the entire run because he'll try to get his WR, I might enjoy it less.
Trihex and PJ runs are my favourites simply because they make it seem so relaxed, they're not anxious about anything and they joke around alot.

Oh no i have no issue with the donation incentive I actually enjoy it. I am just sad that super metroid will always be in a GDQ because the donation incentive is a popular GDQ meme

Super Metroid's always going to be in GDQ because it's the most optimized, entirely skill based speedruns around.

Sure, there's a place for newer or less known games that have small communities, but those games also have records that are being cut down by dozens of minutes or even hours by the next event, and you definitely need the runs that are broken down to sciences.

The same can be said for super mario world / Super mario Bros / Link to the past / Fzero etc etc the list goes on. There is a huge amount of games that are actually down to a science and none of them are nearly as risky / painful to run as metroid because for the past 2 GDQs we've had to watch someone be unable to finish a run which honestly just makes it depressing to watch.

Mario games also have like a quarter of the routing, and Fzero is even more linear. Link to the Past is always run, so that's a rather pointless discussion.

Honestly, there's nothing stopping Metroid runners from doing safety saves (Fusion 1% runners do it), but they choose not to because it's a race.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 02 2015 01:54 GMT
#385
rofl that game intro xD
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 02 2015 01:56 GMT
#386
On August 02 2015 10:53 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2015 10:38 Drazerk wrote:
On August 02 2015 10:30 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 02 2015 10:24 Drazerk wrote:
On August 02 2015 10:20 Uldridge wrote:
I don't know man, I mean, it's speedrunning marathon for a good cause, I don't think it should be absolutely the most important thing to get the fastest time ever.
Firstly, they're put "before" 100+k people, some are very nervous
Secondly, people might donate more the more entertaining the run is people are watching. If you have an obnoxious as hell person needing serious time the entire run because he'll try to get his WR, I might enjoy it less.
Trihex and PJ runs are my favourites simply because they make it seem so relaxed, they're not anxious about anything and they joke around alot.

Oh no i have no issue with the donation incentive I actually enjoy it. I am just sad that super metroid will always be in a GDQ because the donation incentive is a popular GDQ meme

Super Metroid's always going to be in GDQ because it's the most optimized, entirely skill based speedruns around.

Sure, there's a place for newer or less known games that have small communities, but those games also have records that are being cut down by dozens of minutes or even hours by the next event, and you definitely need the runs that are broken down to sciences.

The same can be said for super mario world / Super mario Bros / Link to the past / Fzero etc etc the list goes on. There is a huge amount of games that are actually down to a science and none of them are nearly as risky / painful to run as metroid because for the past 2 GDQs we've had to watch someone be unable to finish a run which honestly just makes it depressing to watch.

Mario games also have like a quarter of the routing, and Fzero is even more linear. Link to the Past is always run, so that's a rather pointless discussion.

Honestly, there's nothing stopping Metroid runners from doing safety saves (Fusion 1% runners do it), but they choose not to because it's a race.


Exactly and it makes the race bad because 2/4 die so it stops being a race and instead is just a bad run. If they played it much safer then sure but then you're taking the speed hit and people would complain the other way. Fzero also has more speed tech which Metroid doesn't have which makes it much more interesting IMO. But this is coming down to personal taste (I speedrun JRPGs which most people hate so yeah) so its a silly argument.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
August 02 2015 01:57 GMT
#387
Sigh Chrono Trigger is starting and I have to leave for 1.5-2 hours
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51640 Posts
August 02 2015 02:20 GMT
#388
what the hell when did they get over a million?
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 02 2015 02:22 GMT
#389
On August 02 2015 11:20 GTR wrote:
what the hell when did they get over a million?


During SM64. So much hype.
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 02 2015 02:26 GMT
#390
Chrono Trigger, so godlike

the music
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
August 02 2015 02:42 GMT
#391
On August 02 2015 10:13 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 02 2015 10:04 Unattended Cake wrote:
On August 02 2015 09:59 Drazerk wrote:
On August 02 2015 09:52 Uldridge wrote:
On August 02 2015 09:27 Drazerk wrote:
Super metroid isn't my cup of tea but it is surprising they include such a marathon unsafe game every year just because of that one donation bid war (Which i'm fairly certain doesn't bring in nearly as much money as people think it does)


Save or Kill the animals Super Metroid The classic. $303,349.47

From their bid index; so it almost brought in 1/3'rd of all the money. I think that's quite alot.


A lot of that comes down to runner's choice / The Yette etc and a lot of people argue that the money would be donated anyway but to other donation incentives. Save / Kill is just the general "I don't know where to put the money" dump. It probably brings in some money but it certainly doesn't bring in 300k


People are arguing about this? o.o

Well, I mean, I would think there would just be more "runner's choice, put wherever" donations without bid wars. It's part of the fun to take a side. Plus, unlike a lot of other bid wars (name choice), it does impact the speedrun time. I don't know, I never heard people speak about it like it's an issue before. Haha.

Edit: Only other post I made in this thread was a possible "answer" to your question on why the chat isn't sub only. Guess you just know how to get my attention. lol


Haha i've just watched so many GDQs and been around long enough that i've gotten tired of a lot of the staples in a GDQ and would rather they take a break from them and I know a lot of speedrunners share my opinion that a lot of the big marathon staples kind of need to take a break at this point (Hell anything sony was lacking for a pretty long time). Its very much a speedrunner complaint than a general viewer complaint.

I mean name choices do effect the speedrun time in a lot of games. Hell it effects pokemon a lot more than it does Metroid and yet there isn't the huge hype around the dead frames there (plus in cannon the animals survive no matter what you do so you don't even need to physically save them to save them)


Ah, now I see where you're coming from. And I feel like I've seen enough Werster to be able to remember how much naming affects Pok'emon, but it completely slipped my mind. Haha.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17740 Posts
August 02 2015 03:12 GMT
#392
wow sick skip
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-02 03:24:17
August 02 2015 03:22 GMT
#393
sick run so far
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 02 2015 03:46 GMT
#394
Never played the game and can't bring myself to watch the whole thing. Looks no fun to me . The commentary on the other hand is great though.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17740 Posts
August 02 2015 03:54 GMT
#395
On August 02 2015 12:46 TheNewEra wrote:
Never played the game and can't bring myself to watch the whole thing. Looks no fun to me . The commentary on the other hand is great though.

yea I think this is gonna go on the 2nd monitor and I'll find something to program lol
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
August 02 2015 03:57 GMT
#396
On August 02 2015 12:54 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2015 12:46 TheNewEra wrote:
Never played the game and can't bring myself to watch the whole thing. Looks no fun to me . The commentary on the other hand is great though.

yea I think this is gonna go on the 2nd monitor and I'll find something to program lol

It's fun, I just watch for 20 mins then leave it muted and focus on something else... come in and out. They are doing a good job explaining stuff which keeps it interesting.
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 02 2015 04:03 GMT
#397
On August 02 2015 12:46 TheNewEra wrote:
Never played the game and can't bring myself to watch the whole thing. Looks no fun to me . The commentary on the other hand is great though.

you never played chrono trigger ? like really :o ?

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 02 2015 04:03 GMT
#398
On August 02 2015 12:57 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2015 12:54 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 02 2015 12:46 TheNewEra wrote:
Never played the game and can't bring myself to watch the whole thing. Looks no fun to me . The commentary on the other hand is great though.

yea I think this is gonna go on the 2nd monitor and I'll find something to program lol

It's fun, I just watch for 20 mins then leave it muted and focus on something else... come in and out. They are doing a good job explaining stuff which keeps it interesting.

kind of the issue with JRPG runs as it very much relies on people knowing them. But it also means people aren't missing out on much for the end of GDQ so people at the event can say their goodbyes and people who'd miss it (Like most of Europe) aren't going to miss something amazing.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-02 04:14:58
August 02 2015 04:10 GMT
#399
I love Chrono Trigger and Essentia/Puwexil are veterans of the GDQ's so they always do great commentary. Probably gonna watch a good chunk of this.

Also nice to see a TLer (raelcun) on the couch.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 02 2015 04:26 GMT
#400
Hi Cane
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