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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-02 03:08:38
July 02 2015 03:07 GMT
#421
On July 02 2015 11:51 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 10:54 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 10:52 TanGeng wrote:
Folks, self-segregation happens all the time...

If self-segregation is an expression of racism, the black church that the shooter attacked was racist and we have a discussion of why those affluent blacks aren't properly integrated into society.

Seriously.


The hell are you talking about?


Are you obtuse??

As obnoxious as it is for those white people to claim that they are proud of white company and then self-segregate into white only communities, it's equally obnoxious for other people to equate that behavior with outright racism and then ignore it when "minorities" do the same fucking thing.


Clearly you are ignorant about the situation. Black people didn't "Self-segregate" not to mention this all came up because they didn't think twice about a strange white guy coming into their church which is not exclusionary at all.

Hard to imagine how people can be so oblivious and not just being intentionally disingenuous.

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 02 2015 03:36 GMT
#422
On July 02 2015 12:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 11:51 TanGeng wrote:
On July 02 2015 10:54 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 10:52 TanGeng wrote:
Folks, self-segregation happens all the time...

If self-segregation is an expression of racism, the black church that the shooter attacked was racist and we have a discussion of why those affluent blacks aren't properly integrated into society.

Seriously.


The hell are you talking about?


Are you obtuse??

As obnoxious as it is for those white people to claim that they are proud of white company and then self-segregate into white only communities, it's equally obnoxious for other people to equate that behavior with outright racism and then ignore it when "minorities" do the same fucking thing.


Clearly you are ignorant about the situation. Black people didn't "Self-segregate" not to mention this all came up because they didn't think twice about a strange white guy coming into their church which is not exclusionary at all.

Hard to imagine how people can be so oblivious and not just being intentionally disingenuous.


Wow, You are obtuse.

Self-segregation and self-selection happens all the time. Marriage and children is a severe case of self-selection and self-segregation.

If you are going to attack white supremacy groups, at least attack them for the white supremacy rather than common everyday occurrences.

The billboard is obnoxious and probably doesn't accuracy reflect their more severe private opinions but simply trotting out segregation as an indicator of racism is really really weak.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23172 Posts
July 02 2015 03:50 GMT
#423
On July 02 2015 12:36 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 12:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 11:51 TanGeng wrote:
On July 02 2015 10:54 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 10:52 TanGeng wrote:
Folks, self-segregation happens all the time...

If self-segregation is an expression of racism, the black church that the shooter attacked was racist and we have a discussion of why those affluent blacks aren't properly integrated into society.

Seriously.


The hell are you talking about?


Are you obtuse??

As obnoxious as it is for those white people to claim that they are proud of white company and then self-segregate into white only communities, it's equally obnoxious for other people to equate that behavior with outright racism and then ignore it when "minorities" do the same fucking thing.


Clearly you are ignorant about the situation. Black people didn't "Self-segregate" not to mention this all came up because they didn't think twice about a strange white guy coming into their church which is not exclusionary at all.

Hard to imagine how people can be so oblivious and not just being intentionally disingenuous.


Wow, You are obtuse.

Self-segregation and self-selection happens all the time. Marriage and children is a severe case of self-selection and self-segregation.

If you are going to attack white supremacy groups, at least attack them for the white supremacy rather than common everyday occurrences.

The billboard is obnoxious and probably doesn't accuracy reflect their more severe private opinions but simply trotting out segregation as an indicator of racism is really really weak.


And this is where we are...

"Separate but equal" nothing racist to see here folks, move right along... That's two different notable members trotting out this non-sense faux-intellectualizing.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-02 03:56:08
July 02 2015 03:55 GMT
#424
Sorry TanGeng but what you're talking about right now is clearly something you don't understand.

I don't have time to go into it, but:

1) Black people are in clusters because they were put there. By white people. Who want to claim the same right to sequester themselves.

2) The demographic in power is held to a different standard. When it comes to "race" - a social construct created by white people - there are two interrelated but distinct definitions of racism. One refers to individual biases based on one's concept of race. This is hardly exclusive to whites, as has been pointed out by defensive white people for centuries. The other is the systemic oppression of minorities by the dominant race. Historically black churches represent neither of these.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 02 2015 04:15 GMT
#425
On July 02 2015 12:55 FHDH wrote:
Sorry TanGeng but what you're talking about right now is clearly something you don't understand.

I don't have time to go into it, but:

1) Black people are in clusters because they were put there. By white people. Who want to claim the same right to sequester themselves.

2) The demographic in power is held to a different standard. When it comes to "race" - a social construct created by white people - there are two interrelated but distinct definitions of racism. One refers to individual biases based on one's concept of race. This is hardly exclusive to whites, as has been pointed out by defensive white people for centuries. The other is the systemic oppression of minorities by the dominant race. Historically black churches represent neither of these.

Race isn't just a "social construct", and white people had nothing to do with it. Racism goes back to virtually any culture who came across a different looking people semi-frequently. As for race itself, there's actually different physiological differences among the races. For example, blacks have higher testosterone levels on average than whites

With respect to the Black/White difference in testosterone level, African Americans have a clear testosterone advantage over Euro-Americans only from puberty to about 24 years of age. This advantage then shrinks and eventually disappears at some point during the 30s. The pattern then seems to reverse at older ages.

Critics say that more recent studies done since the early 2000'ss have shown no differences between Black and White testosterone levels. Perhaps they are referring to recent studies that show lower testosterone levels in adult Blacks than in adult Whites. This was the conclusion of one recent study (Alvergne et al. 2009) which found lower T levels in Senegalese men than in Western men. But these Senegalese men were 38.3 years old on average.

These critics may also be referring to various studies by Sabine Rohrmann which show no significance difference in T levels between Black and White Americans. Age is poorly controlled for in her studies.


Not saying it justifies racism, or this is the only example, but to say that white people made up the idea of race for their own benefit is silly.
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-02 04:18:21
July 02 2015 04:18 GMT
#426
Race isn't just a "social construct", and white people had nothing to do with it.

Well you're wrong on both counts; I suggest you study some anthropology.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23172 Posts
July 02 2015 04:20 GMT
#427
This just keeps getting worse...
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
July 02 2015 04:23 GMT
#428
On July 02 2015 13:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
This just keeps getting worse...

Hay guys I just got done reading this here book The Bell Curve and what a learnt is
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
July 02 2015 04:36 GMT
#429
On July 02 2015 13:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 12:55 FHDH wrote:
Sorry TanGeng but what you're talking about right now is clearly something you don't understand.

I don't have time to go into it, but:

1) Black people are in clusters because they were put there. By white people. Who want to claim the same right to sequester themselves.

2) The demographic in power is held to a different standard. When it comes to "race" - a social construct created by white people - there are two interrelated but distinct definitions of racism. One refers to individual biases based on one's concept of race. This is hardly exclusive to whites, as has been pointed out by defensive white people for centuries. The other is the systemic oppression of minorities by the dominant race. Historically black churches represent neither of these.

Race isn't just a "social construct", and white people had nothing to do with it. Racism goes back to virtually any culture who came across a different looking people semi-frequently. As for race itself, there's actually different physiological differences among the races. For example, blacks have higher testosterone levels on average than whites

Show nested quote +
With respect to the Black/White difference in testosterone level, African Americans have a clear testosterone advantage over Euro-Americans only from puberty to about 24 years of age. This advantage then shrinks and eventually disappears at some point during the 30s. The pattern then seems to reverse at older ages.

Critics say that more recent studies done since the early 2000'ss have shown no differences between Black and White testosterone levels. Perhaps they are referring to recent studies that show lower testosterone levels in adult Blacks than in adult Whites. This was the conclusion of one recent study (Alvergne et al. 2009) which found lower T levels in Senegalese men than in Western men. But these Senegalese men were 38.3 years old on average.

These critics may also be referring to various studies by Sabine Rohrmann which show no significance difference in T levels between Black and White Americans. Age is poorly controlled for in her studies.


Not saying it justifies racism, or this is the only example, but to say that white people made up the idea of race for their own benefit is silly.


Race is a social construct. There is no biological basis that differentiates "races" as we know them. Black people don't have genetic markers that make them "black". Asians don't have genetic markers that make them "Asian". These delineations (primarily relying on skin color) are arbitrary, and only loosely (at best) correlate with certain physical characteristics. The random examples of physical characteristics that are "typical" of a race are merely genetic variations due to population clustering throughout history, and not because a certain race has a certain genetic makeup that is different than another's.
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North2
Profile Joined January 2011
134 Posts
July 02 2015 04:57 GMT
#430
On July 02 2015 13:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +

Race isn't just a "social construct", and white people had nothing to do with it. Racism goes back to virtually any culture who came across a different looking people semi-frequently. As for race itself, there's actually different physiological differences among the races. For example, blacks have higher testosterone levels on average than whites

Show nested quote +


Not saying it justifies racism, or this is the only example, but to say that white people made up the idea of race for their own benefit is silly.


Race is a social construct. There is no biological basis that differentiates "races" as we know them. Black people don't have genetic markers that make them "black". Asians don't have genetic markers that make them "Asian". These delineations (primarily relying on skin color) are arbitrary, and only loosely (at best) correlate with certain physical characteristics. The random examples of physical characteristics that are "typical" of a race are merely genetic variations due to population clustering throughout history, and not because a certain race has a certain genetic makeup that is different than another's.


Well we can identify genetic markers if we really wanted to. For example, all non-African people have some Neanderthal in them. There are definitely genetic differences due to population clustering over time.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11493 Posts
July 02 2015 05:32 GMT
#431
On July 02 2015 12:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 12:36 TanGeng wrote:
On July 02 2015 12:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 11:51 TanGeng wrote:
On July 02 2015 10:54 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 10:52 TanGeng wrote:
Folks, self-segregation happens all the time...

If self-segregation is an expression of racism, the black church that the shooter attacked was racist and we have a discussion of why those affluent blacks aren't properly integrated into society.

Seriously.


The hell are you talking about?


Are you obtuse??

As obnoxious as it is for those white people to claim that they are proud of white company and then self-segregate into white only communities, it's equally obnoxious for other people to equate that behavior with outright racism and then ignore it when "minorities" do the same fucking thing.


Clearly you are ignorant about the situation. Black people didn't "Self-segregate" not to mention this all came up because they didn't think twice about a strange white guy coming into their church which is not exclusionary at all.

Hard to imagine how people can be so oblivious and not just being intentionally disingenuous.


Wow, You are obtuse.

Self-segregation and self-selection happens all the time. Marriage and children is a severe case of self-selection and self-segregation.

If you are going to attack white supremacy groups, at least attack them for the white supremacy rather than common everyday occurrences.

The billboard is obnoxious and probably doesn't accuracy reflect their more severe private opinions but simply trotting out segregation as an indicator of racism is really really weak.


And this is where we are...

"Separate but equal" nothing racist to see here folks, move right along... That's two different notable members trotting out this non-sense faux-intellectualizing.


It kinda depends on context, though.

If there is a subgroup that consists of mostly black or mostly white people, that does not necessarily mean that it is racist. As mentioned before in the case of "black" churches, there are mostly black people there. That doesn't mean that those are racist against white people. That would only be the case if white people were not welcome.

And there are probably other groups that attract mostly white people and thus consist of mostly white people without being racist.

It starts becoming racist the second people of other colours are not welcome.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23172 Posts
July 02 2015 05:42 GMT
#432
On July 02 2015 14:32 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 12:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 12:36 TanGeng wrote:
On July 02 2015 12:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 11:51 TanGeng wrote:
On July 02 2015 10:54 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 10:52 TanGeng wrote:
Folks, self-segregation happens all the time...

If self-segregation is an expression of racism, the black church that the shooter attacked was racist and we have a discussion of why those affluent blacks aren't properly integrated into society.

Seriously.


The hell are you talking about?


Are you obtuse??

As obnoxious as it is for those white people to claim that they are proud of white company and then self-segregate into white only communities, it's equally obnoxious for other people to equate that behavior with outright racism and then ignore it when "minorities" do the same fucking thing.


Clearly you are ignorant about the situation. Black people didn't "Self-segregate" not to mention this all came up because they didn't think twice about a strange white guy coming into their church which is not exclusionary at all.

Hard to imagine how people can be so oblivious and not just being intentionally disingenuous.


Wow, You are obtuse.

Self-segregation and self-selection happens all the time. Marriage and children is a severe case of self-selection and self-segregation.

If you are going to attack white supremacy groups, at least attack them for the white supremacy rather than common everyday occurrences.

The billboard is obnoxious and probably doesn't accuracy reflect their more severe private opinions but simply trotting out segregation as an indicator of racism is really really weak.


And this is where we are...

"Separate but equal" nothing racist to see here folks, move right along... That's two different notable members trotting out this non-sense faux-intellectualizing.


It kinda depends on context, though.

If there is a subgroup that consists of mostly black or mostly white people, that does not necessarily mean that it is racist. As mentioned before in the case of "black" churches, there are mostly black people there. That doesn't mean that those are racist against white people. That would only be the case if white people were not welcome.

And there are probably other groups that attract mostly white people and thus consist of mostly white people without being racist.

It starts becoming racist the second people of other colours are not welcome.


You're a post away from 5k, don't waste it on this dumbass topic.

The word duh comes to mind though. It's only being brought up to pretend there is even anything of substance to discuss about the flag and it's availability, when the OP clearly had no idea what they were talking about.

This is about 10 posts from just turning into typical intellectualized racism (not that there hasn't been plenty already).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
July 02 2015 06:42 GMT
#433
On July 02 2015 14:42 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 14:32 Simberto wrote:
On July 02 2015 12:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 12:36 TanGeng wrote:
On July 02 2015 12:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 11:51 TanGeng wrote:
On July 02 2015 10:54 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 10:52 TanGeng wrote:
Folks, self-segregation happens all the time...

If self-segregation is an expression of racism, the black church that the shooter attacked was racist and we have a discussion of why those affluent blacks aren't properly integrated into society.

Seriously.


The hell are you talking about?


Are you obtuse??

As obnoxious as it is for those white people to claim that they are proud of white company and then self-segregate into white only communities, it's equally obnoxious for other people to equate that behavior with outright racism and then ignore it when "minorities" do the same fucking thing.


Clearly you are ignorant about the situation. Black people didn't "Self-segregate" not to mention this all came up because they didn't think twice about a strange white guy coming into their church which is not exclusionary at all.

Hard to imagine how people can be so oblivious and not just being intentionally disingenuous.


Wow, You are obtuse.

Self-segregation and self-selection happens all the time. Marriage and children is a severe case of self-selection and self-segregation.

If you are going to attack white supremacy groups, at least attack them for the white supremacy rather than common everyday occurrences.

The billboard is obnoxious and probably doesn't accuracy reflect their more severe private opinions but simply trotting out segregation as an indicator of racism is really really weak.


And this is where we are...

"Separate but equal" nothing racist to see here folks, move right along... That's two different notable members trotting out this non-sense faux-intellectualizing.


It kinda depends on context, though.

If there is a subgroup that consists of mostly black or mostly white people, that does not necessarily mean that it is racist. As mentioned before in the case of "black" churches, there are mostly black people there. That doesn't mean that those are racist against white people. That would only be the case if white people were not welcome.

And there are probably other groups that attract mostly white people and thus consist of mostly white people without being racist.

It starts becoming racist the second people of other colours are not welcome.


You're a post away from 5k, don't waste it on this dumbass topic.

The word duh comes to mind though. It's only being brought up to pretend there is even anything of substance to discuss about the flag and it's availability, when the OP clearly had no idea what they were talking about.

This is about 10 posts from just turning into typical intellectualized racism (not that there hasn't been plenty already).


You talked about gentrification, which is a socio-economic consequence, not a racist one, to wit you attributed it to. In your lens, anything remotely majority white is racist, but the latter isn't. I just wanted to point out how idiotic it is to say gentrification is racist, but hey, I've heard all the complaints from folks from Detroit about whites moving into the city and 'making it expensive' to know the street is two ways.
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
July 02 2015 06:49 GMT
#434
I just can't. I'm out.
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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4725 Posts
July 02 2015 07:02 GMT
#435
Everytime there is discussion about racism on TL i somehow get the feeling that i am racist simply because i am white. GJ interent You did it again.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23172 Posts
July 02 2015 07:08 GMT
#436
On July 02 2015 15:42 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 14:42 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 14:32 Simberto wrote:
On July 02 2015 12:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 12:36 TanGeng wrote:
On July 02 2015 12:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 11:51 TanGeng wrote:
On July 02 2015 10:54 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 10:52 TanGeng wrote:
Folks, self-segregation happens all the time...

If self-segregation is an expression of racism, the black church that the shooter attacked was racist and we have a discussion of why those affluent blacks aren't properly integrated into society.

Seriously.


The hell are you talking about?


Are you obtuse??

As obnoxious as it is for those white people to claim that they are proud of white company and then self-segregate into white only communities, it's equally obnoxious for other people to equate that behavior with outright racism and then ignore it when "minorities" do the same fucking thing.


Clearly you are ignorant about the situation. Black people didn't "Self-segregate" not to mention this all came up because they didn't think twice about a strange white guy coming into their church which is not exclusionary at all.

Hard to imagine how people can be so oblivious and not just being intentionally disingenuous.


Wow, You are obtuse.

Self-segregation and self-selection happens all the time. Marriage and children is a severe case of self-selection and self-segregation.

If you are going to attack white supremacy groups, at least attack them for the white supremacy rather than common everyday occurrences.

The billboard is obnoxious and probably doesn't accuracy reflect their more severe private opinions but simply trotting out segregation as an indicator of racism is really really weak.


And this is where we are...

"Separate but equal" nothing racist to see here folks, move right along... That's two different notable members trotting out this non-sense faux-intellectualizing.


It kinda depends on context, though.

If there is a subgroup that consists of mostly black or mostly white people, that does not necessarily mean that it is racist. As mentioned before in the case of "black" churches, there are mostly black people there. That doesn't mean that those are racist against white people. That would only be the case if white people were not welcome.

And there are probably other groups that attract mostly white people and thus consist of mostly white people without being racist.

It starts becoming racist the second people of other colours are not welcome.


You're a post away from 5k, don't waste it on this dumbass topic.

The word duh comes to mind though. It's only being brought up to pretend there is even anything of substance to discuss about the flag and it's availability, when the OP clearly had no idea what they were talking about.

This is about 10 posts from just turning into typical intellectualized racism (not that there hasn't been plenty already).


You talked about gentrification, which is a socio-economic consequence, not a racist one, to wit you attributed it to. In your lens, anything remotely majority white is racist, but the latter isn't. I just wanted to point out how idiotic it is to say gentrification is racist, but hey, I've heard all the complaints from folks from Detroit about whites moving into the city and 'making it expensive' to know the street is two ways.



Yeah, I'm done with this type of garbage too.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-03 12:31:21
July 03 2015 12:30 GMT
#437
On July 02 2015 05:07 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 04:56 Simberto wrote:
On July 02 2015 04:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 02 2015 00:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On July 02 2015 00:15 Plansix wrote:
On July 02 2015 00:06 Djzapz wrote:
On July 01 2015 23:52 Plansix wrote:
On July 01 2015 23:43 Djzapz wrote:
From reading around it looks like the "Confederate flag" is not really the confederate flag obviously, but it was largely brought back in popular culture in the South (I'm sure somebody brought this up) during the 1940's and in the following decades specifically to oppose desegregation. The flag is essentially a symbol of the confederation that was used to protest against desegregation, to protest against mixing black and whites. That's not that long ago.

It's literally a relatively recent flag that has been mobilized specifically for racial reasons. Whatever noble ideals the confederacy may have stood for, this flag doesn't embody those. That's kind of amusing.

I have brought it up over and over, but shockingly the folks who think the flag isn't a symbol of racism have ignored that. They just want to talk about what the flag means to them or whatever selective interpenetration they have decided to hang their hat on.

So you're telling me that the flag wasn't really a thing in the 30's, it was brought back in the 40's for the specific purpose of opposing desegregation and people don't think the flag necessarily has anything to do with racism?

Plansix, what the fuck

I know, it's hard to accept that people are totally disingenuous about racism. Did you also know that the KKK mostly died out in the 1870s and only had a resurgence during the 1950s? They also claim they are a christian community group that is just about protecting American values.


Wrong on both counts. They did die out in the 1870s, but became a huge presence in the 20s, and restarted with the release of Birth of a Nation in 1915. And considering their site says "Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America!", I don't think they're hiding their racism in any way. They weren't back then either.

We had a huge KKK church in New Jersey that was on its way out in the 40s and 50s, not resurging. They did have a resurgence as a whole in the 50s, but it wasn't as big as the earlier Klan.


You are so wrong it hurts....

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"Imperial Wizard Frank Ancona was upset, too. 'What this guy just did set back everything I've been trying to do for years,' said Ancona, who leads the Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. [...]
" 'I believe in racial separation but it doesn't have to be violent,' he told CNN. 'People in the Klan are professional people, business people, working types. We are a legitimate organization.'


“We don’t hate people because of their race. I mean, we’re a Christian organization,” Frank Ancona, an Imperial Wizard of the Traditional American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, told WWBT on Thursday.

He insisted that the KKK had been unfairly maligned for its acts of violence against black people in the United States.

“Because of the acts of a few rogue Klansmen our Klansmen are supposed to be murderers and want to lynch black people, and we are supposed to be terrorists, and that is a complete falsehood.”


They don't think segregation is racist. So that's how you have a bunch of racist dipshits claiming not to be racist. It's become abundantly clear the people here are pretty clueless about race in the south.


MWahahaha "Imperial Wizard of the Traditional American Knights"

How does anyone take these guys seriously.

I'm pretty sure a lot of the KKK is delusional idiots believing they're Crusaders or medieval militia or something.

Either that or they've become a self-parody.

The KKK Nowadays isnt a whole lot, but way back early 1900s or so and the 60's the KKK was a real scary thing tbh.
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
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July 12 2015 11:17 GMT
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On July 02 2015 13:57 North2 wrote:

Well we can identify genetic markers if we really wanted to. For example, all non-African people have some Neanderthal in them. There are definitely genetic differences due to population clustering over time.


Not all non-African people have been proven to have some Neanderthal in them. Africans may have bred with Neanderthals, it hasn't been proven. You may be correct, and one day the answer might be proven beyond doubt, but as of now, it is too early in the field to make such imperical claims, even if there is evidence it could be true.

The large genetic differences came from thousands of years of inbreding.

That is why I love white supremists, "My family inbred so much that we can claim to be a difference race!"

In a similar vein, it is pretty funny when white supremists get WHITE tattooed in BLACK ink.

It's the small things in life....
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11493 Posts
July 12 2015 12:11 GMT
#439
On July 12 2015 20:17 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 13:57 North2 wrote:

Well we can identify genetic markers if we really wanted to. For example, all non-African people have some Neanderthal in them. There are definitely genetic differences due to population clustering over time.


Not all non-African people have been proven to have some Neanderthal in them. Africans may have bred with Neanderthals, it hasn't been proven. You may be correct, and one day the answer might be proven beyond doubt, but as of now, it is too early in the field to make such imperical claims, even if there is evidence it could be true.

The large genetic differences came from thousands of years of inbreding.

That is why I love white supremists, "My family inbred so much that we can claim to be a difference race!"

In a similar vein, it is pretty funny when white supremists get WHITE tattooed in BLACK ink.

It's the small things in life....


Almost as funny as the people having a tattoo of the leviticus phrase about homosexuals, when~ half a page earlier the same text says "don't tattoo yourself."
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