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Ritha
United States29 Posts
But ohhhh yeeessss will I use it for computer RPGs and point&click adventures. Or tower defense games not intended for controllers. Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, Fallout 1 and 2. All the old point and click adventure games. All the new adventure games. All the roguelikes. Basically, it will let me play a ton of games I love on the couch. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
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HeatEXTEND
Netherlands836 Posts
On June 09 2015 14:51 ZenithM wrote: Yeah, I wouldn't have said "at all", as I googled the same thing as you when I read Plansix's comment. I was obviously (or not so obviously I guess  ) joking, I'm sure Valve wouldn't advertise a basic rumble-pack like that, although it would be pretty funny  | ||
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
so what they're basically doing is pitching the controller as a teaser, so you can eventually buy the system it's compatible with which runs around 500-5000 USD. basically valve wants to sell you a high powered computer / pre-built computer under the guise of a homeroom console. the majority will considered it to be a console because the apps, os, etc will basically be only compatible with steam. alienware has been attempting to do this more or less with no success with their other reiterations. in fact i don't actually think valve has any hand in the components, this is more or less a repackaged product that alienware tried to sell off ALONG time ago. if i recall correctly there was a commercial with EG.Fear & Universe sitting in the living room playing games with the console that spoke to it. this is probably that same console (upgraded) being sold under the valve brand partnership to be compatible with steam games using valve's game controller. now it's merely pitched as a game console and being able to play PC games in the living room without a PC. so while it is more like a portable computer, used as a console. i still don't see the point of this as despite the parts being great, it's limited by it's graphic's card. you will eventually have to swap out a graphics card within 2-3 years time as games get more demanding. despite the fact i love the alienware brand and their laptops, you will be paying significantly more for the labor and the custom chasis. in this sense the customization comes from the chasis being a console. thinking about it now, this could work because game consoles will always be behind in terms of power in comparison to computer components, and eventually a new console is introduced every 5-10 years. alienware being a subdivision of dell is generally known for it's longevity in computer components. my laptop from 7 years ago is still being used to this day. | ||
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2767 Posts
On June 10 2015 04:51 saocyn wrote: so i found out the real reason why steam is selling a controller and it's not what we all initially thought. the controller is actually made to be compatible with valve's "steam box" which is basically valve's partnership with alienware to bring games that are only PC, to be used more as a console or played in the living room. so what they're basically doing is pitching the controller as a teaser, so you can eventually buy the system it's compatible with which runs around 500-5000 USD. basically valve wants to sell you a high powered computer / pre-built computer under the guise of a homeroom console. the majority will considered it to be a console because the apps, os, etc will basically be only compatible with steam. alienware has been attempting to do this more or less with no success with their other reiterations. in fact i don't actually think valve has any hand in the components, this is more or less a repackaged product that alienware tried to sell off ALONG time ago. if i recall correctly there was a commercial with EG.Fear & Universe sitting in the living room playing games with the console that spoke to it. this is probably that same console being sold under the valve brand partnership to be compatible with steam games using valve's game controller. Valve have been extremly open with the controller being for steambox. That concept existed long before they developed the controller. But yes, its mostly for being able to sell steamboxes. But you didnt magically find some sort of conspiracy, its just that Valve think PCs can take the console market and they want to facilitate that. They dont really want to do hardware but they do controllers and vr because they have to. And they do software because they have to and it helps them. But the real reason is in the name. Steam is the biggest pc game marketplace in the world and if computers take the living room its the biggest console marketplace too. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17479 Posts
The success and uniqueness of the Steam Controller hinges upon how much better the analog input is than the current standard. I think the answer is as analog as the controller itself. I think it is a matter of degree and not a yes/no. I don't think it'll be 100% as good as a mouse. If it is 0% better than a PS4/XB1 analog then it offers consumers nothing new. The question is where will it be in that scale from 0% improvement to 100% mouse replacement. and i think only time will tell... and the answer may be different for different users. the closer it is to 100% the greater a success this whole project has been. the closer to 0% improvement this is and the more the entire Steam Controller project looks like a failure. only time will tell how much better their analog input is than the current standard. i don't think top notch Dota2 pro teams will use the current Steam Controller to win tournaments. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17479 Posts
compared to the WindowsOS , the SteamOS does not play very many video games. http://store.steampowered.com/app/353370 "A Steam Machine or other computer capable of running Steam Big Picture Mode, in order to view, edit, save, and share Steam Controller mappings" just as an example. you can buy GTA5 on Steam; however, it does not work on the SteamOS. The SteamOS is a customized version of Linux. i love how Valve avoids using the word Windows in all their promo material. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17479 Posts
35% of pre-orders are already sold. http://www.pcgamer.com/35-percent-of-valves-get-it-early-hardware-preorders-are-already-sold/ | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17479 Posts
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/steam-controllerlink-not-working-on-mac-so-valve-o/1100-6431525/ | ||
c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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Yurie
12083 Posts
On October 20 2015 07:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Pretty cool of Valve to give their entire library as compensation for messing up the launch on the MAC http://www.gamespot.com/articles/steam-controllerlink-not-working-on-mac-so-valve-o/1100-6431525/ Included is future releases as well? Great deal (if they release any pay to play games again). | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17479 Posts
On October 20 2015 12:34 c3rberUs wrote: As accurate as a mouse? Sure, I'd like to see if it's as good as they claim it is. But from the videos it looks like a... mere.. touch pad. that is my exact concern. it looks like it might be the standard touchpad you get when u purchase a laptop. it turns out my concerns regarding the right-side touchpad are invalid. it appears the Steam Controller right side touchpad is a definite step above the Analog stick of an XBOX360 controller. however, it is not as good as a mouse. Gyro mode+Track Ball mode is pretty damn good for FPS aiming and spray control Overall, the Steam Controller is a clear step above the XBOX360/PS4 controller. The haptic feedback makes the right pad feel like you have a track-ball under your thumb. customizing the controller. Gyro Mode+Track-Ball Mode appears to a good way to aim in hard core FPS games. The video above demonstrates that discovering the optimal set up requires some open minded experimentation. Set ups you might first believe will suck balls might actually turn out to provide the best control. it looks like i'm getting a Steam controller November 10th. Valve may have taken forever to get this piece of hardware out the door, but they got it right. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On October 26 2015 09:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Why does JimmyJRaynor sound so much like a paid for advertiser reading from a script? With the occasional "oh but I do criticize their products in a non meaningful way" for plausible deniability?it appears the Steam Controller right side touchpad is a definite step above the Analog stick of an XBOX360 controller.... ...it looks like i'm getting a Steam controller November 10th. Valve may have taken forever to get this piece of hardware out the door, but they got it right. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17479 Posts
as the thread indicates i knew little about the Steam Controller in early June of 2015. i performed my due diligence and i'm giving the product a positive review. its better than the current standard console controllers and somewhat more expensive. it is not useful for competitive multiplayer FPS; its good for everything else. if u want to play PC games on your couch looking at your giant living room TV then the Steam Controller is much better than a console controller. On June 09 2015 15:36 -Archangel- wrote: Hmm, will this controler work with fighting games? It has no d pad. good question.. i like the tactile feedback of either a D-Pad or joystick. keep in mind i'm a casual Mortal Kombat player. here is a pretty good look at the Steam Controller for Fighting Games. TL; DR : its basically about as good as a console controller for fighting games. | ||
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Kyir
United States1047 Posts
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