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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16709 Posts
January 31 2016 00:54 GMT
#601
this got a giggle from me.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/vote-none-of-the-above-byelection-1.3426783
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killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 03:41:46
January 31 2016 03:38 GMT
#602
On January 28 2016 08:39 Dark_Chill wrote:
Maybe a stupid question, but does a weak canadian dollar have any effect on the non-global market? Like for every day grocery purchases and such?


Cauliflower.

On January 28 2016 09:35 Dark_Chill wrote:
So when different countries "play" with their currency to devalue it, they tend to be countries whose economies thrive on exports and such? That way they're not affected by price changes locally and can benefit from it?


The dollar being weak is great for the country as a whole, as it improves investment from other countries.

For individuals it's bad because price of things from out of country increase. Services/products from multinational companies also jack up their prices.

Local companies that do everything locally are about the only places that aren't affected.

China devalue's their money cause they just don't give a fuck about their local population, only their world standing, which gets better so long as they remain cheap to overseas investments.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16709 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-05 16:17:27
February 05 2016 16:16 GMT
#603
i prefer a dollar any place between $0.63 and $0.87 USD. with my current work situation i'm hoping for $0.63 USD.. but that's just me.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16709 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-08 17:58:36
February 08 2016 17:49 GMT
#604
the liberals are "bringing home the bombers" 8 days ahead of the schedule set by the PCs. LOL. Justin "Peace In Our Time" Trudeau.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/02/08/canada-to-end-bombing-mission-against-isis-triple-size-of-training-troops.html

it is some nice politicking by Trudeau. He manages to appear like a dove in the public's eyes compared to Harper. He "keeps" a campaign promise. They are continuing refueling and survellience as before.. The French leader guy struck a conciliatory tone regarding this move; and why shouldn't he. the leader of the latest victim of a serious ISIS attack really only lost 6 bombers for 8 days. For all we know they tripled the schedule and dropped more bombs than previously planned under the Harper regime in reaction to the Paris attack.

This is all assuming they actually do come back by February 22nd. If there are some "unforeseen delays" they might return by the 28th or something... making the loss less than 8 days.

this is more ammo for those cynics who believe the PCs and Liberals are just 2 sides of the same coin.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16709 Posts
February 19 2016 04:29 GMT
#605
for all those who think the PCs pander to American interests and Liberals make decisions in Canada's best interests....

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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16709 Posts
February 25 2016 01:05 GMT
#606
Shopper's and Rexall want to sell Marijuana.

http://www.thestar.com/business/2016/02/24/shoppers-drug-mart-rexall-want-to-sell-marijuana.html
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-25 22:36:16
February 25 2016 22:31 GMT
#607
http://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2016/02/25/ontario-budget-lowers-post-secondary-tuition-while-hiking-gas-costs.html

Some highlights

-Covering the average cost of tuition to students with a household income lower than $50,000
-Gasoline prices increase by 4.3 cents next year, natural gas by $5 per month
-$30 Drive Clean levy removed
-Cap-and-trade program initiated
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
February 25 2016 23:09 GMT
#608
Okay, free education for households making under $50,000 is just stupid.

In Alberta I took two degrees, and they cost me in total $40,000 in tuition, $6000 in books, I lived at home, so no rent or groceries (which would be the same if my family was only making $40,000-$50,000/year. I budgeted $400 a month for leisure(clothing, drinking, restaurants, toys), so multiply that by 12x4, and you get roughly $20,000.

So my degree without the opportunity cost of working for the four years cost me $66,000. These people are finishing a degree, why can they not have a student debt of $66,000 when they graduate? And this is the absolute worst case scenario, most people will only take 1 degree, and generally speaking 4 years is the upper limit of a degree, while many might takes diplomas at colleges or technology/trades institutions (where you get paid as you work anyway). On top of that, if you have someone who works for $10/week as a server, IT, customer associate, car dealership, etc, etc at lets say $15/hour, that'd be $150/week*50working weeks/year... So $7500/year or $30,000 throughout your degree.

So most people, if they come to university with 0 money, and have no help from their parents besides having a place to live and groceries, will end with $20,000 to $50,000 in debt. I have friends who have gotten nursing diplomas, business degrees, engineering degrees, economics, trades, math, computer science, pharmacy tech...

And all these people were making $60,000/year or more after 3 years in their field, regardless of their background. If I make $60,000 a year, tax that to roughly $42,000 to $45,000, there is no reason why I shouldn't be able to save $10,000 per year. With this logic, almost everyone should be able to pay off their student debt within 2-5 years, especially considering how low interest rates are.

2/3rd of university education is already paid by the government, lets actually have a cost associated with taking a degree to remove the moral hazard, the cost is very manageable unless you're taking 13th century literature degree, which if you aren't paying for yourself, frankly you shouldn't even be taking, since these people will make no better contribution to society as if they didn't have the degree in the first place (or very marginal).
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killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
February 25 2016 23:54 GMT
#609
You're forgetting that:
A) Not everyone that graduates with a degree gets a job in that field. Even if they do, not all the jobs are well paying. The experience of your friends isn't really a good representation of everyone.
B) Jobs have more to do with your connections than education anyway
C) Most people suck at managing their income.

You're right though. In a perfect world where all things go well, people could feasible pay off their loans much faster than they currently do.
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
February 26 2016 00:16 GMT
#610
I don't see a reason to punish people for seeking out higher education. I think we should be promoting that path as much as possible, and things like this only help.

A more educated population is better for society society.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-26 00:51:56
February 26 2016 00:25 GMT
#611
Firstly, I'm sure you can see that I'm quite conservative when it comes to my thinking.

My problem is that we are raising sheep, if people can't handle their finances after high school, or whenever they are going to university, maybe they shouldn't be the ones going to university. We need intelligent people, and I'm not a fan of this pursuit of equality.

Recently (1 year ago I believe), the diplomas in Grade 12 were changed from 50% to 30% in Alberta because students and parents complain that its too stressful. In engineering we're making the course material easier to accommodate the students, but who will you blame when a bridge collapses because the engineers of today aren't properly educated. The universities use number of dropouts from programs as a indicator of quality of the program? What? Why are we deciding whether a program is being administered correctly by dropout rates instead of whether we're teaching our future generations to think?

I agree that a pure free market isn't the answer (as history has showed), but a healthy amount of competition is needed to be efficient as a society. In 2010, 21% of our workforce was in the government, while tax revenue as a percentage of GDP is over 32%... While not a perfect indicator, it gives an idea of how effectively the government allocates money versus the private sector (and considering how many industries have pseudo-unions, it's not even a fair comparison).

Anyway, we're fostering an environment where the intelligent individuals aren't given a place to shine in the name of equality (rather than fairness), and compared to the rest of the developed world, we're not so bad (given that we've had the conservatives in power for a while), but I don't want Canada to become another France with its social and economic policy. Every industry in Canada is suffering, every single international company based in Canada is failing (Blackberry and Bombardier notably, hell, what else do we even have), and it's all because of these regulatory and union laws, plus the nasty side effects of bureaucracy that does not allow inspirational and revolutionary leaders to flourish, and bring us to the international stage in anything.

On February 26 2016 09:16 Tephus wrote:
I don't see a reason to punish people for seeking out higher education. I think we should be promoting that path as much as possible, and things like this only help.

A more educated population is better for society society.


Usually yes, though there's a cost and benefit to it, and as such, the cost-benefit analysis must be performed. Regardless, I don't want to argue whether free education versus highly subsidized education is better, but moral hazard is a real thing (hence why you have deductibles with car insurance policies)...

But what I do want to say is discriminating cost of university based on family wealth is in my eyes unethical, there's no such things as "affirmative action for the poor", and there's already programs in place for literally anyone to be able to obtain a university degree, regardless of family wealth (without even discussing bursaries which are significant in quantity) . Sure, keep taking money away from the rich that had the ideas and built the world and all its luxuries around you as you know it, but don't get upset when all these people leave, and you have unskilled, dishonest, and lazy professionals (doctors, nurses, lawyers, engineers, accountants) because you were spoon feeding everyone jobs.

Yes, this one law isn't directly responsible for all of this, but it's the overall trend in policy to this state, and I'm expressing my frustrations with it.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16709 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-26 00:38:29
February 26 2016 00:31 GMT
#612
On February 26 2016 08:54 killa_robot wrote:
B) Jobs have more to do with your connections than education anyway

vast oversimplification. a big reason you build your most valuable "connections" is due to productive competence. and, most of the time that starts off with being able to read and write and use logic effectively.

Seeing as the discussion originated from a post about Ontario Universities : go to a co-op school like Waterloo and you can start building your people network long before you graduate.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16709 Posts
March 19 2016 14:12 GMT
#613
Science and Politics.... Oil and Water.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/03/19/keep-unmuzzled-scientists-on-tight-leash-senior-civil-servants-warn-liberals.html
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 18:26:59
March 19 2016 18:22 GMT
#614
On February 26 2016 09:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 08:54 killa_robot wrote:
B) Jobs have more to do with your connections than education anyway

vast oversimplification. a big reason you build your most valuable "connections" is due to productive competence. and, most of the time that starts off with being able to read and write and use logic effectively.

Seeing as the discussion originated from a post about Ontario Universities : go to a co-op school like Waterloo and you can start building your people network long before you graduate.


Yeah... no. It's nice to believe that, but nearly all research into job searching shows that most jobs are not even publicly advertised (AKA - The Hidden Job Market). The thought that education matters more than access to said jobs doesn't even make sense.

You're right though in that being competent is all it takes to impress most people (which is rather sad). You still need to actually impress others for it to matter and to get ahead though. Education by itself doesn't usually accomplish that.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16709 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 21:19:54
March 21 2016 20:42 GMT
#615
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/03/21/rob-ford-is-in-palliative-care-his-office-confirms.html

Rob Ford is going to die soon.

He was a 4/10 Mayor and the left-wing pinko-commie-socialists that run the city painted him as a 0/10 Mayor.

On March 20 2016 03:22 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 09:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 26 2016 08:54 killa_robot wrote:
B) Jobs have more to do with your connections than education anyway

vast oversimplification. a big reason you build your most valuable "connections" is due to productive competence. and, most of the time that starts off with being able to read and write and use logic effectively.

Seeing as the discussion originated from a post about Ontario Universities : go to a co-op school like Waterloo and you can start building your people network long before you graduate.


Yeah... no. It's nice to believe that, but nearly all research into job searching shows that most jobs are not even publicly advertised (AKA - The Hidden Job Market). The thought that education matters more than access to said jobs doesn't even make sense.

You're right though in that being competent is all it takes to impress most people (which is rather sad). You still need to actually impress others for it to matter and to get ahead though. Education by itself doesn't usually accomplish that.


when u enroll in the waterloo co-op program you are granted access to amazing job search resources and a fuck-tonne of employers are aggressively recruiting on campus. Your direct competition for jobs is other students in the same program you are in.

i easily found/retained employment for all 8 of my co-op work terms and so did almost all my classmates. The very few that didn't find a job didn't want a job.

We graduated with solid work experience and if we were diligent a nice little job-centric social network. Lots of guys in my class are making 100K+ 5 years after graduating due to a combination of talent, hard work and opportunism.
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11350 Posts
March 21 2016 23:35 GMT
#616
And all these people were making $60,000/year or more after 3 years in their field, regardless of their background. If I make $60,000 a year, tax that to roughly $42,000 to $45,000, there is no reason why I shouldn't be able to save $10,000 per year. With this logic, almost everyone should be able to pay off their student debt within 2-5 years, especially considering how low interest rates are.

While I'm not really for free education, I will say as a private school teacher, I am still making 2/3rds your 60K number 5 years after graduating. Now fortunately, I played it smart and had far less debt and am more or less debt free now, though still renting. But your 60K is not really a guarantee. Granted, a Category 5 union public school teacher will make 55K after three years, so that's closer.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 23:42:51
March 21 2016 23:42 GMT
#617
On March 22 2016 05:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/03/21/rob-ford-is-in-palliative-care-his-office-confirms.html

Rob Ford is going to die soon.

He was a 4/10 Mayor and the left-wing pinko-commie-socialists that run the city painted him as a 0/10 Mayor.

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2016 03:22 killa_robot wrote:
On February 26 2016 09:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 26 2016 08:54 killa_robot wrote:
B) Jobs have more to do with your connections than education anyway

vast oversimplification. a big reason you build your most valuable "connections" is due to productive competence. and, most of the time that starts off with being able to read and write and use logic effectively.

Seeing as the discussion originated from a post about Ontario Universities : go to a co-op school like Waterloo and you can start building your people network long before you graduate.


Yeah... no. It's nice to believe that, but nearly all research into job searching shows that most jobs are not even publicly advertised (AKA - The Hidden Job Market). The thought that education matters more than access to said jobs doesn't even make sense.

You're right though in that being competent is all it takes to impress most people (which is rather sad). You still need to actually impress others for it to matter and to get ahead though. Education by itself doesn't usually accomplish that.


when u enroll in the waterloo co-op program you are granted access to amazing job search resources and a fuck-tonne of employers are aggressively recruiting on campus. Your direct competition for jobs is other students in the same program you are in.

i easily found/retained employment for all 8 of my co-op work terms and so did almost all my classmates. The very few that didn't find a job didn't want a job.

We graduated with solid work experience and if we were diligent a nice little job-centric social network. Lots of guys in my class are making 100K+ 5 years after graduating due to a combination of talent, hard work and opportunism.

I was actually at Waterloo co-op, and while there were a ton of employers, co-op is still something that's not guaranteed. It's definitely the means by which at least one of my roommates managed to attend university at all.

Although I was in math, and ended up transferring to Queen's Party School University for a different discipline. Definitely a good idea to do co-op; wish I had more success.

Also more on-topic, did anyone recently see this?
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killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
March 21 2016 23:53 GMT
#618
On March 22 2016 05:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/03/21/rob-ford-is-in-palliative-care-his-office-confirms.html

Rob Ford is going to die soon.

He was a 4/10 Mayor and the left-wing pinko-commie-socialists that run the city painted him as a 0/10 Mayor.

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2016 03:22 killa_robot wrote:
On February 26 2016 09:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 26 2016 08:54 killa_robot wrote:
B) Jobs have more to do with your connections than education anyway

vast oversimplification. a big reason you build your most valuable "connections" is due to productive competence. and, most of the time that starts off with being able to read and write and use logic effectively.

Seeing as the discussion originated from a post about Ontario Universities : go to a co-op school like Waterloo and you can start building your people network long before you graduate.


Yeah... no. It's nice to believe that, but nearly all research into job searching shows that most jobs are not even publicly advertised (AKA - The Hidden Job Market). The thought that education matters more than access to said jobs doesn't even make sense.

You're right though in that being competent is all it takes to impress most people (which is rather sad). You still need to actually impress others for it to matter and to get ahead though. Education by itself doesn't usually accomplish that.


when u enroll in the waterloo co-op program you are granted access to amazing job search resources and a fuck-tonne of employers are aggressively recruiting on campus. Your direct competition for jobs is other students in the same program you are in.

i easily found/retained employment for all 8 of my co-op work terms and so did almost all my classmates. The very few that didn't find a job didn't want a job.

We graduated with solid work experience and if we were diligent a nice little job-centric social network. Lots of guys in my class are making 100K+ 5 years after graduating due to a combination of talent, hard work and opportunism.


Congrats? You found that your university was really well connected, which is the key to success. You're literally supporting my exact argument, lol.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16709 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 15:54:05
March 22 2016 15:19 GMT
#619
sad news
rob ford is dead
the toronto star actually turned him into a sympathetic figure.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/03/22/why-rob-ford-appealed-to-so-many-in-toronto-james.html

"His singular appeal as a politician was “customer service.” He answered the phone calls of his constituents. Personally. He showed up to their door to attend to their little problems. And constituents never forgot that."

this is how you win elections people.... he never lost.

On March 22 2016 08:53 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 05:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/03/21/rob-ford-is-in-palliative-care-his-office-confirms.html

Rob Ford is going to die soon.

He was a 4/10 Mayor and the left-wing pinko-commie-socialists that run the city painted him as a 0/10 Mayor.

On March 20 2016 03:22 killa_robot wrote:
On February 26 2016 09:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 26 2016 08:54 killa_robot wrote:
B) Jobs have more to do with your connections than education anyway

vast oversimplification. a big reason you build your most valuable "connections" is due to productive competence. and, most of the time that starts off with being able to read and write and use logic effectively.

Seeing as the discussion originated from a post about Ontario Universities : go to a co-op school like Waterloo and you can start building your people network long before you graduate.


Yeah... no. It's nice to believe that, but nearly all research into job searching shows that most jobs are not even publicly advertised (AKA - The Hidden Job Market). The thought that education matters more than access to said jobs doesn't even make sense.

You're right though in that being competent is all it takes to impress most people (which is rather sad). You still need to actually impress others for it to matter and to get ahead though. Education by itself doesn't usually accomplish that.


when u enroll in the waterloo co-op program you are granted access to amazing job search resources and a fuck-tonne of employers are aggressively recruiting on campus. Your direct competition for jobs is other students in the same program you are in.

i easily found/retained employment for all 8 of my co-op work terms and so did almost all my classmates. The very few that didn't find a job didn't want a job.

We graduated with solid work experience and if we were diligent a nice little job-centric social network. Lots of guys in my class are making 100K+ 5 years after graduating due to a combination of talent, hard work and opportunism.


Congrats? You found that your university was really well connected, which is the key to success. You're literally supporting my exact argument, lol.


well connected because of the top notch abilities of its students. the recruiters are looking for the absolute best engineering students. and they know where to find them. the abilities of the students to produce makes the "connections" possible.

ability comes first... social connections are teh effect.

ability and talent is the cause... social connections with really good project managers and recruiters comes later merely as an effect.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16709 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-04 20:57:18
April 04 2016 20:55 GMT
#620
Steve Paikin is a left wing commie pinko... but ... he is an excellent interviewer.

another great job by Steve... he interviews Tim Hudak about the sharing economy in ontario.

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