Shots fired at Charlie Hebdo offices - France - Page 35

On January 08 2015 07:57 Noocta wrote:


Well, if you manage to stay 3 years in the country, you were forced to atleast do something to become a citizen of it you know.

On January 08 2015 07:55 SoSexy wrote:
People misunderstood me, I didn't mean a police stream but for example during the Sydney siege the footage was from the place, not studio interviews like now on France 24.

About citizenship, I agree with Millitron, being born is not enough. If I go to Russia with an italian girl and three years later we have a boy, I consider him more Italian than Russian. Citizenship should be about culture, language, traditions, not about boundaries

On January 08 2015 07:58 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Guardian's Paris correspondent says all three have been arrested:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jan/07/shooting-paris-satirical-magazine-charlie-hebdo#block-54ada427e4b01f977f448fda

Claims are being made that two of them were in Syria and came back to France in summer 2014, and one was arrested in 2005 trying to get to Syria so he could go to Iraq. So if they were in Syria, Biff maybe it's also a good idea to take a closer look at even people born in France trying to come into France, if they're coming from places like Syria? Immigration and asylum are just parts of overall border control. We're past the point of splitting hairs and particularism, European governments have been worried about people coming back from fighting in Syria for 3 years now. Radicals of all kinds of stripes moving to Europe or within Europe and stirring up trouble has been an issue for hundreds of years. There has to be a comprehensive, Continent-wide policy on this or eventually you will have an attack made directly by people who came in as immigrants or refugees, and you'll have more ferry sinkings in the Mediterranean too.

On January 08 2015 08:00 Ishentar wrote:


The BFM TV live stream which is available for free from their website, if you click on "DIRECT" provides both studios interview and many footages from the place, even if it's not the intervention. However it's completely in french, and sometimes there is no footage.

On January 08 2015 07:59 SoSexy wrote:


? not really. If I get selected for a PhD in the States I will stay there 5 years but I won't consider myself American if I do not even know a bit of their history, constituion etc o.o seems normal to me!

On January 08 2015 07:58 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Guardian's Paris correspondent says all three have been arrested:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jan/07/shooting-paris-satirical-magazine-charlie-hebdo#block-54ada427e4b01f977f448fda

Claims are being made that two of them were in Syria and came back to France in summer 2014, and one was arrested in 2005 trying to get to Syria so he could go to Iraq. So if they were in Syria, Biff maybe it's also a good idea to take a closer look at even people born in France trying to come into France, if they're coming from places like Syria? Immigration and asylum are just parts of overall border control. We're past the point of splitting hairs and particularism, European governments have been worried about people coming back from fighting in Syria for 3 years now. Radicals of all kinds of stripes moving to Europe or within Europe and stirring up trouble has been an issue for hundreds of years. There has to be a comprehensive, Continent-wide policy on this or eventually you will have an attack made directly by people who came in as immigrants or refugees, and you'll have more ferry sinkings in the Mediterranean too.

On January 08 2015 07:59 SoSexy wrote:


? not really. If I get selected for a PhD in the States I will stay there 5 years but I won't consider myself American if I do not even know a bit of their history, constituion etc o.o seems normal to me!

On January 08 2015 08:01 Biff The Understudy wrote:

You realize that someone French traveling to Syria to do whatever fucked up thing he might want to do there, and coming back, is NOT an immigrant and has nothing to do with immigration, right?

And again, Cherif K, the only one of those fuckers we have details about had NEVER left France even though he tried.

Look, I mean, do whatever you want, but my advice is, drop it. You went onto a stuff about refugees and infiltrated people that is completely irrelevant, that's fine, it happens to everyone, let's move on.

There is a policy for that, and it does not include building a huge wall around Europe and shooting everyone that tries to cross it. We moved on from that.

On January 08 2015 08:05 Noocta wrote:


Well, I don't know much about how laws works over stuff like student visa here, but I'm pretty sure he ain't that easy to abuse the right of birth over the French terroritory.

On January 08 2015 08:05 mahrgell wrote:


There is a policy for that, and it does not include building a huge wall around Europe and shooting everyone that tries to cross it. We moved on from that.

On January 08 2015 08:08 SoSexy wrote:


We moved on with wonderful results, we never had violence in Europe apart from London, Madrid, Paris...oh wait

EDIT: LIVE FOOTAGE - POLICE READY

On January 08 2015 08:08 SoSexy wrote:


We moved on with wonderful results, we never had violence in Europe apart from London, Madrid, Paris...oh wait

On January 08 2015 08:07 mahrgell wrote:

nor is it relevant for the case here

On January 08 2015 08:10 mahrgell wrote:


You can lock every human in a separate cell, and hope no one will do any harm to another human anymore. But be guaranteed, humans will still find a way. If that is your preferred way of living, start with yourself.