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pretender58
Germany713 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On September 25 2017 01:31 pretender58 wrote: Well, if the SPD make good on their promise that they will not enter any coalition to form a government, the only option left is "Jamaika" (CDU+Greens+FDP). Given the differences - especially between the FDP/CSU and the Greens - it is not terribly unlikely that reelections are going to be held. Arriving first with 32% in Germany: may fail to govern in the end, new elections may be needed Arriving first with 32% in France: full powers for 5 years Interesting! | ||
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Simberto
Germany11735 Posts
Also, coalition negotiations will be interesting. If Jamaica doesn't work, and SPD does not agree to great coalition, they will be utterly wrecked in the reelection. Probably 15+% for AfD should that happen. | ||
TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On September 25 2017 01:31 pretender58 wrote: Well, if the SPD make good on their promise that they will not enter any coalition to form a government, the only option left is "Jamaika" (CDU+Greens+FDP). Given the differences - especially between the FDP/CSU and the Greens - it is not terribly unlikely that reelections are going to be held. how fast does this usually go? chances reelections will be together with the Landtagswahlen in Nds? | ||
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pretender58
Germany713 Posts
On September 25 2017 01:39 TheNewEra wrote: how fast does this usually go? chances reelections will be together with the Landtagswahlen in Nds? Since the elections in Niedersachsen are held on October 15, the reelections will be much later. The deliberations could take months and setting up the reelections (logistically) also takes time. (For reference, the last coalition in 2013 was finalized in December.) The next weeks and months will be interesting for sure. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
Edit: Oh, I take that back for the SPD. Martin Schulz seems to have understood something, being extremely open about the CDU being the main opponent. Let's just hope they really take the opposition role and try to become a better alternative to the CDU. | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On September 25 2017 01:03 Big J wrote: CDU: 33,5 SPD: 21 AfD: 13 FDP: 10 Greens: 9 Left: 9 Looks like quite a defeat for the reigning old parties, also no CDU/FDP possible which is quite a relief.  What was it like before? | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
Something like CDU/CSU: 41 SPD: 25 AfD: 4.9 FDP: 4.9 Greens: 8 Left: 9 | ||
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pretender58
Germany713 Posts
2013 compared to 2017 CDU: 41.5-->33.5 SPD: 25.7-->21 AfD: 4.7-->13 FDP: 4.7-->10 Greens: 8.4-->9 Left: 8.6-->9 | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
CDU: 41,5 SPD: 25,7 AFD: 4,7 FDP: 4,8 Greens: 8,4 Left: 8,6 | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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pretender58
Germany713 Posts
On September 25 2017 01:48 Big J wrote: Every politician talking about the AfD being the biggest problem. Prepare for 20-25% after the next (regular) election. You can't get strategically more retarded than a centralist politician. Edit: Oh, I take that back for the SPD. Martin Schulz seems to have understood something, being extremely open about the CDU being the main opponent. Let's just hope they really take the opposition role and try to become a better alternative to the CDU. Apparently the AfD already has 20-25% of the votes if one looks only at former East Germany. (Also, the polling guy for the ARD just said that, excluding the West, in the East CDU+SPD wouldn't be a majority). On September 25 2017 01:58 TheDwf wrote: I was hoping for the SPD below 20%, would have been perfect symbolically Can still happen, only projections at this time . Final results will be available in the morning hours. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On September 25 2017 01:57 pretender58 wrote: 2013 compared to 2017 CDU: 41.5-->33.5 SPD: 25.7-->21 AfD: 4.7-->13 FDP: 4.7-->10 Greens: 8.4-->9 Left: 8.6-->9 I guess that's progress. But unfortunately not enough to matter. Bummer. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On September 25 2017 02:06 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: ??? https://twitter.com/CNN/status/911989491316948994 The base was sick of it and it would have been suicide. This is a good decision. Not happy that we got wrecked again but at least only as much as was expected. The CDU took a large hit. Greens doing fairly well. The worst thing is the East German vote. 21% for the Afd among East Germans making them the second strongest party by far. What a pile of crap. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On another note: People have mentioned it in here but I don't know about reelections (and I haven't ready everything yet, just got home) but I just don't see that happening. The Greens and FDP might hate each others guts but the leaders of their parties are supposedly quite good friends so maybe Jamaica does happen after all? Reelection would just be the biggest mess ever and I don't see it making anything better so I would hope Greens and FDP get their shit together and form a coalition with CDU because the alternative is so much worse, for them as well. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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pretender58
Germany713 Posts
On September 25 2017 02:31 LegalLord wrote: Looks like CDU+FDP+Greens would be the most viable coalition. Sounds like a disaster. In fact, it is the only one available now. The SPD leadership has doubled down on their claim that they will not form a government and Martin Schulz has said they will not work with the CDU anymore. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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