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Sent.
Poland9297 Posts
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
I don't believe that the EU has a common deportation policy. In France however it is illegal to deport someone back to a country where they would face the death penalty at least.. amongst other things | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On December 24 2016 03:49 nitram wrote: Some of these human rights laws are really stupid and need to be ignored. Most laws are stupid, they are manmade through democratic processes with stupid or careless people being in the vast majority. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On December 24 2016 02:17 Sent. wrote: Why not? Human rights convention prohibits European countries from deporting people to countries where their life would be at genuine risk. Libya is still a warzone and the guy said he's a Gaddafi supporter so there are reason to believe such risk exists. He'll probably go to prison but it's possible that he won't have to go back to his country. These laws were made when things were wildly different. They deserve a look over. Its easy to have a "we're so ethical!" circle jerk when nothing goes wrong. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18285 Posts
On December 24 2016 14:41 Mohdoo wrote: These laws were made when things were wildly different. They deserve a look over. Its easy to have a "we're so ethical!" circle jerk when nothing goes wrong. I know right? OR MAYBE YOU SHOULD OPEN A HISTORY BOOK! Particularly to the pages on Jews trying to flee Nazi Germany... because that was the direct cause for most of the asylum laws we have today! | ||
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
On December 24 2016 14:41 Mohdoo wrote: These laws were made when things were wildly different. They deserve a look over. Its easy to have a "we're so ethical!" circle jerk when nothing goes wrong. Yep they followed one of the worst genocides of human history, they were made to prevent another.. Why should we look at them again? | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10881 Posts
Merry christmas | ||
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On December 24 2016 14:41 Mohdoo wrote: These laws were made when things were wildly different. They deserve a look over. Its easy to have a "we're so ethical!" circle jerk when nothing goes wrong. The laws were made for situations exactly like the one we have, what do you propose, asylum laws only as long as there are no applicants? "We're so ethical" is only relevant when the rights are actually being used. Merry Christmas | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Merry Christmas. (On that note, do any of your countries celebrate Christmas in a particularly unusual way?) | ||
zatic
Zurich15365 Posts
In some parts of Germany, mainly the south of the country, children write to the 'das Christkind/Christkindl' asking for presents. The letters to the Christkind are decorated with sugar glued to the envelope to make them sparkly and attractive to look at. Children leave the letters on the windowsill at the beginning of or during Advent. 'das Christkind' translates as 'The Christ Child' in English but Germans don't think of the Christkind as the baby Jesus! The Christkind is often described as a young girl with 'Christ like' qualities. In Nürnberg a young girl is chosen every year to participate in a parade as the Christkind. She wears a long white and gold dress, has long blond curly hair and wears a gold crown and sometimes wings like an angel. This is similar to St Lucia is Sweden. (And it can seem a bit confusing calling the 'Christ Child', Jesus, a girl!) | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
I'd say Christkind / Santa somewhat co-exist here (Hessen, close to Frankfurt) and it differs from family to family. I personally never "got" any presents from Weihnachtsmann/Santa as a kid but got them from the Christkind... I think? Anyways, two different people and would have figured it's more of a northern Germany thing if anything? I think it comes from scandinavia and heard it can also be a thing in other countries like Netherlands etc but at the end of the day just hearsay and I don't really talk about Christmas traditions with anyone  That being said, merry Christmass ya'll o/ | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
I mean, Judeo-Christian God is both male and female, so a female Christ depiction isn't all that surprising. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Funny, I always thought it's supposed to be an angel rather than anything else. I mean come on: + Show Spoiler [picture] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9EoyNaT.jpg) Learning something new every day | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
On December 24 2016 03:49 nitram wrote: Some of these human rights laws are really stupid and need to be ignored. Well the problem is not the human right laws but that the other part, namely the bringing back of refugees doesn't work and in some cases even is worked against by politicians. Berlins city government being one of them. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On December 24 2016 18:21 Acrofales wrote: I know right? OR MAYBE YOU SHOULD OPEN A HISTORY BOOK! Particularly to the pages on Jews trying to flee Nazi Germany... because that was the direct cause for most of the asylum laws we have today! Sure, and how hard of a time did the jews have with assimilating? Terrorism? My point is that these situations aren't the same. Europe has the same intentions in mind, but the two populations are notably distinct and have different impacts on the host countries. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18285 Posts
On December 25 2016 06:40 Mohdoo wrote: Sure, and how hard of a time did the jews have with assimilating? Terrorism? My point is that these situations aren't the same. Europe has the same intentions in mind, but the two populations are notably distinct and have different impacts on the host countries. Are you arguing that Jews had an easy time fitting into society in Europe throughout history? There's a reason they were scapegoated, and it's not because they were so well loved... The situations are indeed different. But the underlying idea of preventing human tragedy by taking requests for asylum seriously is the same. People are being persecuted for being different. However, the team issue isn't with the actual refugees. It's with profiteering scum masquerading as refugees... like that Tunisian in Berlin. And this one they actually identified and still couldn't send him home. We need to do something about that, not the actual laws allowing real refugees in. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5807 Posts
On December 25 2016 06:40 Mohdoo wrote: Sure, and how hard of a time did the jews have with assimilating? Terrorism? My point is that these situations aren't the same. Europe has the same intentions in mind, but the two populations are notably distinct and have different impacts on the host countries. Actually, the vast majority of Jews, who have lived in our country for centuries, couldn't speak Polish at all. | ||
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