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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6274 Posts
On January 29 2016 22:20 nitram wrote: Are you serious? As if some factions are more dangerous than unified arabic countries that want to conquer you. They already tried that and failed. The countries surrounding Israel aren't interested in invading anymore. | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On January 29 2016 19:07 Doublemint wrote: is this some kind of romanian humor I am basically unable to recognize? culture starts with people. discussion culture too. doom and gloom is under the circumstances... inappopriate and misguided. sure "we" have a lot of problems, among the newer ones quite a lot of refugees from different cultures and backgrounds. trying to construct the end of europe and its culture is just bull though. we survived 2 friggin world wars not too long ago, the cold war. countless others before that. I think we will be alright in the end. The end of European Culture is a stretch, and overly dramatic, but the current migration pressure of Europe is undeniably massive. Combine the current numbers with the current situation in the job markets (increasingly less demand for low-skilled labour do to automatisation) and housing markets (long waiting lists for social housing and soaring rent and purchasing prices on the private market), and you have the recipe for a trouble, both in the short and the long term. | ||
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
On January 29 2016 22:48 RvB wrote: They already tried that and failed. The countries surrounding Israel aren't interested in invading anymore. Yes they are, they are just waiting for an opportunity ideally when the us can't protect them. | ||
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trulojucreathrma.com
United States327 Posts
On January 29 2016 09:23 Narw wrote: Wanna maybe start sending letters to your Senate representatives in US since you guys are doing big nothing atm, apart of lecturing people on TL in EU what to do. Also, please stop messing with unstable regions that had stable dictators, it doesn't lead to anything good, your gov should have learned that lesson long time ago. EU countries taught us how to do colonialism. We just do it better now because we are more powerful because you guys fucked ourselves over several decades by starting WWI and WWII. Being on an island with almost unlimited space like we are is kind of a huge advantage in being a prosperous. All we had to do is get rid of the natives, which we did. We do have a problem with Mexico though. Because of you need for all our rich CEO's and movie stars to abuse cocaine, Mexico is in a civil war now. We have a fence, kind of, but with Trump it will be completely locked out. Maybe he will dig a channel. So boats can cross there and don't need the Panama channel, so it will pay for itself. Too bad I'd probably vote Nader though, if he runs. | ||
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2791 Posts
On January 29 2016 22:57 nitram wrote: Yes they are, they are just waiting for an opportunity ideally when the us can't protect them. Israel have nukes. The window for a successful invasion is over. Even if you can beat their military (which I don't think the rest of the middle east can in an offensive war) the moment the last Israeli defense crumbles every major city on the enemy side is in a que to turn into a parking lot one by one until their armies have withdrawn. Simple as that. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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trulojucreathrma.com
United States327 Posts
Whenever they want more weapons to fight their own Arab 'brothers', they just say "Israel!" and the internal discussion ends and they can get more weapons to destabilize their neighbors. Btw, Palestine is already occupying Israel. Ever heard of the west bank? As for modern liberal Western European values being destroyed in Europe. Didn't you already torch those yourselves just to be sure Mohammedans couldn't? What about privacy? What about tolerance? How are the Netherlands, Denmark or France any better than the worst conservatives in eastern Europe? At least eastern European countries don't actually produce and export Jihadis, like France and Belgium do en masse. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6274 Posts
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odeSSa
Sweden198 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On January 30 2016 06:15 Plansix wrote: Is that for a single month? Because it would make sense that the numbers of Syrian refugees would fluctuate or go down. Its not like there are unlimited refugees. It wasn't "an european commission guy" saying that, but Frontex. And it's for december only. edit: and if i recall correctly, that's unpublished information, haven't seen it yet anyway. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On January 30 2016 09:05 m4ini wrote: It wasn't "an european commission guy" saying that, but Frontex. And it's for december only. edit: and if i recall correctly, that's unpublished information, haven't seen it yet anyway. Yes it was https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/most-fleeing-to-europe-are-not-refugees-eu-official-says-1.2511133 Anyway there is no point even saying who the refugees are, 80% have either fake papers or no papers at all. Those who don't have syrian papers just throw them before arrival then pretend they're syrian.. 18-30 years old says they are 13 and no one can do anything about it. Sweden just announced they'll deport 80000 migrants, except 7 migrants out of 10 who must be deported just disappear and stay...they way EU has handled this crisis is the worst possible >< On January 29 2016 22:47 Ghostcom wrote: About the same as what happened to Europe. The thread reflect it well imo =pWhat the fuck happened to this thread? :S | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On January 29 2016 23:38 trulojucreathrma.com wrote: Btw, Palestine is already occupying Israel. Ever heard of the west bank? In a thread of "WTF? statements", this has to take the cake. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On January 30 2016 17:05 FuzzyJAM wrote: In a thread of "WTF? statements", this has to take the cake. That seemed sarcastic, like the rest of his posting. In other news, for germany we have now solid numbers on how amazing refugees and immigrants are for the economy. Remember? One of the big arguments, talking about how they will be a motor and whatnot? You form your opinion. ![[image loading]](http://img.welt.de/img/wirtschaft/crop151637442/0619403135-ci16x9-w780/DWO-WI-Fluechtlinge-Arbeitsmarkt-ms-2.jpg) Unemployment quota, top left is germany overall, top right is foreigner general. Rest is selfexplanatory. And before people jump the gun: these numbers are not just "the recent months". It has been like this since 2010. Experts are saying that this trend won't change, and that for the forseeable future refugees/immigrants will be a burden on the german welfare system. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8750 Posts
like, I get what you are trying to say, but apples and oranges. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On January 30 2016 20:20 Doublemint wrote: yeah well... syria was not that much of an economic powerhouse to begin with, add to that the repercussions of the GFC + an upcoming war in 2011 lol. like, I get what you are trying to say, but apples and oranges. The war prevents people from working in germany? I'd say your argument is "apples and oranges". Maybe i didn't explain the graph well, that's not unemployment rate in syria (which your argument would work with), but it's syrians being unemployed in germany. Which has nothing to do with what's going on in syria. edit: screw me not explaining stuff, you're able to read german. Read the title of the graph. | ||
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