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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10700 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-13 15:41:42
December 13 2017 15:41 GMT
#20281
On December 14 2017 00:10 Dav1oN wrote:
Nobody said it should be a sudder transition, it does not work with humans. Providing

But yea, it needs to be done eventually in every state of Europe, not only in Germany. And considering modern tendency with educating systems in EU - english is a perfect fit for a common language.

Or imagine it is possible to communicate officially both in German and English in your local governmental structures, is it bad?


In our Parlament, national and local, everyone tends to give his speeches in his mother tongue.
Some translators will make good money, but its not like this isn't happening allready.


Imho this is just an absolute non factor.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-13 16:12:22
December 13 2017 16:11 GMT
#20282
On December 14 2017 00:41 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2017 00:10 Dav1oN wrote:
Nobody said it should be a sudder transition, it does not work with humans. Providing

But yea, it needs to be done eventually in every state of Europe, not only in Germany. And considering modern tendency with educating systems in EU - english is a perfect fit for a common language.

Or imagine it is possible to communicate officially both in German and English in your local governmental structures, is it bad?


In our Parlament, national and local, everyone tends to give his speeches in his mother tongue.
Some translators will make good money, but its not like this isn't happening allready.


Imho this is just an absolute non factor.


Sure, but Swedes, Danes and Romanians aren't allowed to use their mother tounge in the EU parlament, putting those countries at a disadvantage. If they will have to make do with English, why can't Germany and France? It's quite understsndable if it's a non factor to a Swiss.

I know I'm being overly critcal of Germany and I'm fully aware any change is far way off. Still, it's one of these issues that will have to be adressed sooner or later.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9193 Posts
December 13 2017 16:19 GMT
#20283
https://www.theguardian.com/education/datablog/2014/may/21/european-parliament-english-language-official-debates-data

Wew, looks like the meme about Frenchmen refusing to speak English should be killed and replaced with a meme about Germans doing that.
You're now breathing manually
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6209 Posts
December 13 2017 16:38 GMT
#20284
On December 14 2017 01:11 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2017 00:41 Velr wrote:
On December 14 2017 00:10 Dav1oN wrote:
Nobody said it should be a sudder transition, it does not work with humans. Providing

But yea, it needs to be done eventually in every state of Europe, not only in Germany. And considering modern tendency with educating systems in EU - english is a perfect fit for a common language.

Or imagine it is possible to communicate officially both in German and English in your local governmental structures, is it bad?


In our Parlament, national and local, everyone tends to give his speeches in his mother tongue.
Some translators will make good money, but its not like this isn't happening allready.


Imho this is just an absolute non factor.


Sure, but Swedes, Danes and Romanians aren't allowed to use their mother tounge in the EU parlament, putting those countries at a disadvantage. If they will have to make do with English, why can't Germany and France? It's quite understsndable if it's a non factor to a Swiss.

I know I'm being overly critcal of Germany and I'm fully aware any change is far way off. Still, it's one of these issues that will have to be adressed sooner or later.

Every country represented in the EP is allowed to use its own language. There are translators to translate what the other Members of parliament are saying on the spot. Official documents have translations too.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
December 13 2017 16:38 GMT
#20285
On December 14 2017 01:19 Sent. wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/education/datablog/2014/may/21/european-parliament-english-language-official-debates-data

Wew, looks like the meme about Frenchmen refusing to speak English should be killed and replaced with a meme about Germans doing that.


Thanks for sharing, seems like I'm talking rubbish. I withdraw from the discussion as a wiser man!
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
December 13 2017 16:41 GMT
#20286
Maybe we can make a poll to see what people here tends to think about language perspective?
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9193 Posts
December 13 2017 17:05 GMT
#20287
About what exactly? I don't see anything potentially controversial on the last two pages.
You're now breathing manually
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10700 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-13 17:58:16
December 13 2017 17:57 GMT
#20288
Have important documents translated to every language. Simple stuff to 3-4?

Problem solved
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
December 13 2017 18:17 GMT
#20289
What. That's already EU procedure.
Every nation has translators so politicians can write their speeches and have them translated to English or French for the matter.
And they can have simultaneous interpreting for the speeches of other MEPs...
passive quaranstream fan
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10700 Posts
December 13 2017 18:18 GMT
#20290
So, no issue at all. Why make one.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21667 Posts
December 13 2017 18:32 GMT
#20291
On December 14 2017 03:18 Velr wrote:
So, no issue at all. Why make one.

Because rawr europe bad.
Despite not knowing what they are talking about.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9193 Posts
December 13 2017 18:38 GMT
#20292
What issue? Longshank admitted to be wrong, I don't understand what are the 3 posters above me are talking about.
You're now breathing manually
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10700 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-13 18:57:20
December 13 2017 18:42 GMT
#20293
The next "eu relations" vote in switzerland will come and i'm scared...
Cause "immigrants" by witch they mean eritreans (sp) and "theytukrjbs"...
And the big rightwing party having money and the others not..
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
December 13 2017 19:02 GMT
#20294
On December 14 2017 03:38 Sent. wrote:
What issue? Longshank admitted to be wrong, I don't understand what are the 3 posters above me are talking about.

That's on me jumping posts. ma bad.
passive quaranstream fan
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-13 20:04:24
December 13 2017 20:02 GMT
#20295
I thought Germans are already reasonably good at English. What's the problem? I've not met a German yet who would tell me that they couldn't exchange a few messages in English. We don't have to be like Scandinavia.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
December 13 2017 21:29 GMT
#20296
yes I still don't see how that is anything other than an invented problem to push some kind of culture warrior course. Modern nation states with their monolingual culture are a fairly new invention. It's not like there have never been vast countries that are host to people speaking a ton of languages. In fact that's pretty much the norm in many places on the planet.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 13 2017 23:17 GMT
#20297
On December 14 2017 05:02 sc-darkness wrote:
I thought Germans are already reasonably good at English. What's the problem? I've not met a German yet who would tell me that they couldn't exchange a few messages in English. We don't have to be like Scandinavia.


english proficiency by nation:

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Obviously the usual rules apply:
If you're talking to an 80year old lady at the local bakery in a 5k population village chances are she won't be able to speak english.
If you're talking to someone reasonably young it's going to be muuuuuch more than 62.35% of the population being able to have a conversation.

Quite frankly (I know this has already been retracted), this idea that Germans refuse to talk english is just nonsense.
As already shown, people in the EP do talk in english even if they have the option to talk in their native tongue and I'd argue that kind of speech/conversation is on a different level than a quick conversation here on TL or on the streets.

I don't even know where that idea came from. Germany or Germans were never particular infamous for refusing to talk English, I'd say quite the opposite.
Maybe the comment was about changing the official language in Germany to English and people being against that? But I'd assume that's generally the case in most nations.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 14 2017 12:05 GMT
#20298
Some new research published about global inequality:



My two personal favorites:



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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 14 2017 12:12 GMT
#20299
Just read the German article on it. Germany has reached a 1913 state of inequality.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 14 2017 12:22 GMT
#20300
By the way, you can find many more graphs on https://twitter.com/wid_inequality



A factor which is too often ignored when trying to explain unstability in the Middle East, instead of the empty/simplistic culturalist explanations.

Also nice and encouraging to see that (most of) Europe is already fed up with growing inequalities, even if it's "less worse" than elsewhere.
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