EPTMalaysian airliner shot down over Eastern Ukraine - Page 22
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Grettin
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On July 18 2014 06:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Bringing spies huh? 300 of them? Good christ what are these people thinking. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Ayaz2810
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Enzymatic
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Hazzyboy
Estonia555 Posts
On July 18 2014 06:38 Jormundr wrote: Factually incorrect. They are still flying through Ukraine, just not anywhere near separatist controlled areas. Used to avoid Eastern Ukraine air space before TODAY, now Lufthansa, Aeroflot, Transair, Turkish Airlines, Air France has announced they will avoid all of Ukrainian air space from today when flying destination is not Ukraine off-course. Correct decision! | ||
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Ljas
Finland725 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On July 18 2014 06:43 Ayaz2810 wrote: I normally fucking hate social media, but it seems to come in really handy for finding incriminating evidence when stupid people do stupid things. It's also a good source of runaway speculation. You can convince yourself of any opinion if you look at the right sources such as, say, only SBU videos. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Hazzyboy
Estonia555 Posts
On July 18 2014 06:41 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/evromdn/status/489820988730003456 Undeniable evidence - you can even see that this Buk is operated by Putin himself. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On July 18 2014 06:45 LegalLord wrote: It's also a good source of runaway speculation. You can convince yourself of any opinion if you look at the right sources such as, say, only SBU videos. Except most sources are pointing at the separatists being involved, with the occasional report that the plane was followed by fighter jets, or that Putin's plane flew that same path earlier (which was denied by the Kremlin) | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Draconicfire
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Nisyax
Netherlands756 Posts
On July 18 2014 06:47 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Even more reports of looters especially of belongings from bodies Haven't read about that yet, but that's fucking disgusting. Pisses me off so much.. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On July 18 2014 06:47 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Even more reports of looters especially of belongings from bodies Should be shot on sight imo. Despicable. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
On July 18 2014 06:45 LegalLord wrote: It's also a good source of runaway speculation. You can convince yourself of any opinion if you look at the right sources such as, say, only SBU videos. They don't mean anything really, just two guys talking in Russian. If the people they are accused to be came out on live television and spoke you could compare but obviously not gonna happen. I'm sure the NSA/CIA have audio recordings of some of these guys to see if there's a match but what would the point be of releasing that information if there was? People who are convinced Russia and the separatists are right will just say it's a fabrication and nothing will change. Radar and satellite data and analysis of the wreckage - if a real analysis is allowed to happen - will solve the mystery if it can be solved. Eastern Ukraine is one of the most heavily satellite-spied-on areas of the earth right now the US and Russia both are surely running a huge amount of images through a computer program to see if anything comes up. | ||
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Grettin
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geokilla
Canada8246 Posts
On July 18 2014 06:47 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Even more reports of looters especially of belongings from bodies When you live in a poor country, I think it's normal to expect looting from the rich. Heck even in Western society, people loot... | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On July 18 2014 06:45 LegalLord wrote: It's also a good source of runaway speculation. You can convince yourself of any opinion if you look at the right sources such as, say, only SBU videos. Yeah, I'm avoiding speculating at all. I think its fairly obvious what happened, but throwing shit out there without evidence is a good way to lose credibility and create confusion. If only religions subscribed to this way of thinking, the other headlines about Israel/Iraq wouldn't exist. But that's another story. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
On July 18 2014 06:49 geokilla wrote: When you live in a poor country, I think it's normal to expect looting from the rich. Heck even in Western society, people loot... It's one thing to loot from a store in the middle of a mob it's another thing to loot from the murdered dead. It's not a poor/rich thing anyway it's war soldiers have always looted from the dead in war and always will. Even in Western countries where their militaries make a real effort to stop it it still happens a lot. | ||
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