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GreenHorizons
United States23295 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On June 14 2014 05:41 GreenHorizons wrote: Should be interesting to see if Google takes any significant interest. A Google+Tesla tech project sounds promising. I think that's already in the work since Tesla plan to have functional self driving car within three years. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On June 14 2014 01:06 dignitas.merz wrote: License =/= Giving everyone permission to freely make use of technology protected by patent. License is the primary tool to actually maintain ownership over your intellectual property while using that intellectual property to make money. By licensing you give the licensee permission to use products/tools/programs/trademarks or what have you, but the licensee doesn't actually own any of the intellectual property and the intellectual property holder can still sue for infringement. Generating income from intellectual property is usually done by granting a license to someone else. Most computer games work like this, none of us own the intellectual property tied to i.e. Starcraft II, we're just granted a license to use it. My bad for not reading the full source. I was under the impression that they were just handing out free licenses. Didn't realise they were actually relinquishing their patents. | ||
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wunsun
Canada622 Posts
On June 14 2014 01:10 dignitas.merz wrote: Also this. They may give up current patents, because they are not benefitting from locking up important tech on the market right now by not sharing their patents. Letting everyone else into the game will probably benefit them in the long run. Nothing says they wont patent technology in the future which might be key to maintain market access for other involved companies. Tesla will in return demand that they pay for this technology, Tesla wins. I may be reading too much into this, but by relinquishing their patents, they are stating that for all intents of the purpose, the patent will not be enforced. Otherwise, the press brief would have stated that all of Tesla's patent are up for licensing. | ||
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riyanme
Philippines940 Posts
we should be open minded about patents (more on tech side) i hate apple being aggressive about monetary lawsuits... (though im using their product) hindering the tech progress... but it is their right though~ this should be enough... acknowledgement "...no patent lawsuits will be initiated against anyone who, in good faith, wants to use their technology" | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote: I think this is a very calculated move. Tesla's always gonna stay a niche product if electric cars and the infrastructure for it doesnt become standard. Or they will flat out die. By opening up, they hope to push the entire market and its infrastructure towards electric cars. Its way easier to establish now, you give up a little bit of your lead and share your technology but you make sure that your technology wins the war. I think its minimizing the risk of failure for the entire company by giving up some market share in the long run. this is also what my thoughts are on this. Not like another big company will just move in and outproduce them but maybe some other companies can pop up, create some competition and increase the spread of electric cars and such. Interesting move regardless  | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Yurie
11880 Posts
This reminds me of when Volvo made the three point seat belt free for everybody to use. Though a bit more monetary gain possible this time around. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On June 14 2014 15:11 Yurie wrote: If electric cars take off, how are they producing the energy? If by using Coal power plants the pollution is worse than using an ECO friendly car using Diesel or Gasoline... This reminds me of when Volvo made the three point seat belt free for everybody to use. Though a bit more monetary gain possible this time around. | ||
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On June 14 2014 15:11 Yurie wrote: If electric cars take off, how are they producing the energy? If by using Coal power plants the pollution is worse than using an ECO friendly car using Diesel or Gasoline... This reminds me of when Volvo made the three point seat belt free for everybody to use. Though a bit more monetary gain possible this time around. Elon Musk also happens to be chairman of a company called "Solar City" which just happens to be one of the largest solar energy companies in the US and owned by his cousins. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_City I'm not saying he's releasing these patents for familial gain, it's more a case that he's not just making electric cars to "solve" the problem, he's also involved in other things that are focused on the same issues, such as the power generation aspect of it. So yes, there is a lot of coal power in the US for electricity, but there are also people trying to push forward renewable options as well. | ||
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anomalopidae
Slovenia549 Posts
On June 14 2014 15:11 Yurie wrote: If electric cars take off, how are they producing the energy? If by using Coal power plants the pollution is worse than using an ECO friendly car using Diesel or Gasoline... This reminds me of when Volvo made the three point seat belt free for everybody to use. Though a bit more monetary gain possible this time around. Yeah, not sure what exactly is in that TED video, but the superchargers produce electricity through conversion of solar power, whatever is left over they sell into the grid. At least that's how I understood the whole concept of it. Of course solar panels aren't exactly eco friendly either, but a bit better than coal/oil for sure. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On June 14 2014 15:18 slytown wrote: Hydrogen is where its at. Maybe their battery technology will translate. Hydrogen is a means of storing energy, not a means of producing energy. Batteries and hydrogen fuel cells serve the exact same purpose, so there's no reason to use both in one vehicle (outside of some half-baked hybrid notion, which would work just as well if not better with something like biofuels). On June 14 2014 21:14 anomalopidae wrote: Yeah, not sure what exactly is in that TED video, but the superchargers produce electricity through conversion of solar power, whatever is left over they sell into the grid. At least that's how I understood the whole concept of it. Of course solar panels aren't exactly eco friendly either, but a bit better than coal/oil for sure. I assume you're talking about industrial production/disposal sources of pollution? But that seems an unfair comparison, because then we're discussing completely different types of pollution with different means of control and disposal. | ||
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Treznor
Denmark29 Posts
Just look at all the stupid patentwars going on, especially within mobile companys. Also protective economy etc. Keeping all for yourself is almost always motivated by greed, and history shows greedy companys eventually fail. Best damn business news ive read in a long time. | ||
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magicmUnky
Australia280 Posts
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AutoEngineer
United States97 Posts
Sure sharing technology sounds awesome if you're not the company offering it. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 15 2014 02:25 Acritter wrote: Hydrogen is a means of storing energy, not a means of producing energy. Batteries and hydrogen fuel cells serve the exact same purpose, so there's no reason to use both in one vehicle (outside of some half-baked hybrid notion, which would work just as well if not better with something like biofuels). The problem that arrises is if they fill the same niche, there can only be one. Similar to the HD DVD vs Blu-ray. VHS vs Betamax. The release of their patent is hope that they'll win due to sheer control of market adaption to their tech, as to prevent hydrogen from being the main contender. | ||
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pebble444
Italy2497 Posts
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