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It seems like a US crew investigating the same patch couldn't see it due to weather. I hoped they dropped a buoy or took pictures.
The Chinese IL-76's do have an interesting advantage over most of the western aircraft. They have a glass cockpit floor so you can easily look straight down and forward.
Update 1:
"Orange and grey/green objects detected by Australian plane"
Update 2:
Tweet was deleted as I was posting it.
"Just received a call from Australian PM @tonyabbott -2 objects were located&will be retrieved in the next few hours. pic.twitter.com/7x0f4MFlUx
— Mohd Najib Tun Razak (@NajibRazak) March 24, 2014"
Update 3:
It was retweet
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/24/mh370-chinese-plane-spots-white-objects-live-updates
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I have a bad feeling that even though they will eventually find the plane somewhere in the ocean, they will also discover that along with all communication systems, the black box was powered off as well, so nothing was recorded and it will remaing a mistery forever 
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On March 24 2014 22:08 Flight wrote:I have a bad feeling that even though they will eventually find the plane somewhere in the ocean, they will also discover that along with all communication systems, the black box was powered off as well, so nothing was recorded and it will remaing a mistery forever
Isnt that practically impossible?
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The orange things are separate and different to what the Chinese plane saw. They're also bringing some instrumentation onsite that can pick up pings from the box at a depth of 6km, which is about right for the ocean at that point.
I can't link atm because I'm way too lazy to do formatting on my phone, but my link at the bottom of the last page was recently updated with a lot of new information.
EDIT: The guardian link antisocialmonkey posted is very good too. I'd recommend reading that.
Night time here now, so we probably won't have any new developments for another 8h or so.
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wow. 3:40 holy shit. Would not want to be on that boat.
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wow that video. Ocean too stronk. I wonder if its cold as fuck too :s
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And to add to that:
"This evening I was briefed by representatives from the UK Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB)." #MH370
"Using a type of analysis never before used in an investigation of this sort,they have been able to shed more light on MH370’s flight path."
"Based on their new analysis, Inmarsat & the AAIB concluded that the last position of #MH370 was in the middle of the Indian Ocean."
@NajibRazak (twitter)
There will be a press conference tomorrow with more information.
Full statement
They are pretty excited in the Australia too after planes with certainty have spotted floating debris. Now it is a question of getting the boats there and get the debris back to land for further analysis.
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So how exactly does one triangulate a position from only one angle?
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On March 24 2014 23:26 TheFish7 wrote:
So how exactly does one triangulate a position from only one angle?
Thats a valid question.
+ Show Spoiler +
Just hope they can finally find trace of the wreckage so the families can get closure on this.
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On March 24 2014 22:08 Flight wrote:I have a bad feeling that even though they will eventually find the plane somewhere in the ocean, they will also discover that along with all communication systems, the black box was powered off as well, so nothing was recorded and it will remaing a mistery forever
No worries, black box is extremely durable.
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On March 24 2014 23:26 TheFish7 wrote:
So how exactly does one triangulate a position from only one angle?
You can determine the geometry of a triangle with a combination of 3 known sides and/or angles (with the except of 3 angles, which doesn't tell you how large the triangle is, and 2 sides with an angle only connected to one known side (AAA and SSA) ). You can find the other angles and sides using mathematical laws once those conditions are met.
In 3 dimensions, you need a second "triangle" to determine the exact position. When we had that search arc from the satellite pings, we were only able to extrapolate a single triangle, between the plane and the satellite (using estimates of the elevation and fuel usage).
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So i don't understand. They didn't find it but now they know it crashed ? What did i miss ?
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On March 25 2014 00:04 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2014 23:26 TheFish7 wrote:
So how exactly does one triangulate a position from only one angle? You can determine the geometry of a triangle with a combination of 3 known sides and/or angles (with the except of 3 angles, which doesn't tell you how large the triangle is, and 2 sides with an angle only connected to one known side (AAA and SSA) ). You can find the other angles and sides using mathematical laws once those conditions are met. In 3 dimensions, you need a second "triangle" to determine the exact position. When we had that search arc from the satellite pings, we were only able to extrapolate a single triangle, between the plane and the satellite (using estimates of the elevation and fuel usage).
Indeed, but that doesn't answer the question. Unless one of the possible positions had them flying through a mountain or something.
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They used a bunch of concentric range circles to get distance from satellite over time. Then they found the distances between the arcs to make a assumed airspeed (this makes a cone due to errors in calculation. That's why they traced the plane to 2 areas.
It looks like its over. They just declared everyone dead and are flying the relatives to Australia.
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On March 25 2014 00:17 Antisocialmunky wrote:
They didn't use a triangle, they used a bunch of concentric range circles to get distance from satellite over time. Then they found the distances between the arcs to make a assumed airspeed (this makes a cone due to errors in calculation. That's why they traced the plane to 2 areas.
It looks like its over. They just declared everyone dead and are flying the relatives to Australia.
So they declared everyone dead, yet they have no physical evidence that the plane even went down. Hmm...
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That's because the evidence is getting boated back to Australia hopefully. Not to mention that they eliminated the northern arc so its literally the only possibility left. According to the PM, the UK's AAIB and Inmarsat concluded it went down in the Southern Indian Ocean as well.
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From the NY Times today source
The Malaysian government has been less vocal lately about any findings from the police inquiry into the people on board the missing plane, including the captain, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, and the junior pilot in the cockpit, Fariq Abdul Hamid. Investigators and officials have said that the plane’s extraordinary trajectory, veering far off course just after its last radio contact with the ground, and the fact that its transponders stopped working at about the same time appeared to involve actions by someone experienced in aviation. Hishammuddin Hussein, the Malaysian defense minister and acting transport minister, said on Monday that the police had interviewed more than a hundred people, including relatives of each pilot. He said a committee was considering whether to make public the transcript of the pilots’ communications with air controllers before the plane disappeared.
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