Majority of Americans don't believe evolution - Page 4

On August 15 2006 18:36 Mindcrime wrote:
I don't recall reading that.

On August 15 2006 18:36 warding wrote:

Seriously? Do you really understand the concept of evolution? And you still think it needs some sort of illuminated guidance? :|

On August 15 2006 18:30 IntoTheWow wrote:
Until you find something that explains the world better than the current physics, ill stick with them.

Thank you.

On August 15 2006 18:36 warding wrote:

Seriously? Do you really understand the concept of evolution? And you still think it needs some sort of illuminated guidance? :|

On August 15 2006 18:09 gameguard wrote:
there is plenty of measurable data supporting evolution. However, there is also areas that are kind of grey.

think about the very beginning of life. The general concensus is that lightning in the pre-oxygenated atmosphre caused the formation of simple molecules like ammonia. Simple molecules aggregate to form more complex molecules such as RNA. Lipids and such form globules that have an internal invironment. RNA is incorporated and voala - the primitive cell is born.

There has been experiments to prove some of these could happen, but its hard to say that all of these processes came together to form the cell. Now if there was some supernatural guidance.....

On August 15 2006 18:40 Mynock wrote:


Then re-read my posts and unless you're looking for the exact same wording you surely will.

All I was saying is that there is no definitive 100% proof for evolution. There's just a mountain of evidence and logical conclusions. But evolution theory is still just a theory. Believing otherwise is almost as ignorant as believing it's completely false.

-Mynock

On August 15 2006 18:36 warding wrote:

Seriously? Do you really understand the concept of evolution? And you still think it needs some sort of illuminated guidance? :|

On August 15 2006 18:49 Bill307 wrote:
Considering how evolution took place over an inconceivably and unimaginably long period of time, I don't see anything wrong with believing that evolution was not totally random and was somehow influenced by God. The period of time is just so long that no one can say, qualitatively, whether or not it is long enough to allow evolution to progress from the first life on earth to what we see today.

On August 15 2006 18:54 Mindcrime wrote:


Evolution is not random. Mutations themselves may be somewhat random, but natural selection ensures that evolution is not.

On August 15 2006 18:40 Chill wrote:
I feel so bad for science in general. It's like you work so hard to prove this to the masses and they just "know" you're wrong.

I was watching a commercial for the Q-Ray braclet, with it's "ionized metal" powers it makes you feel better. It's got to make everyone who makes their living in theoretical sciences sick to see someone getting rich off this, and the people putting it on and "feeling better within seconds".

I'm also annoyed with the people who don't want genetically engineered crops because it's "immoral", while people in other countries with large population densities or infertile soils continue to starve every day. That's another tangent though...

If you believe in anything other than science, for anything in the universe, go fuck yourself. That's straight from me to you. You can't refute theories and evidence with gut feeling.

On August 15 2006 19:41 CaucasianAsian wrote:
In America, the minority that is ridiculed the most are not the Jewish population, the mexican/spanish, the asians, nor is it the blacks. The minority in the United States, are in fact, Athiests/Agnostics. I believe because since the United States was created behind the simple belief of Freedom of Catholic church. The Freedom of Religion, of course outlines that you can believe in any religion, or none if desired. Nonetheless, Americans are stupid in many ways, and/or blinded from the truths. However, if you come to America, you will find a church, synagogue, temple, mosque, or any other superior personel praising location, in everything. You will see religion on our money, on our roads, on our billboards, on the radio, in our homes, everywhere. If you know it or not.

I am myself an Athiest. I am not here to judge or say what is right, and what is wrong. I understand why Americans, and other people around the world want to believe that there is an afterlife. People have been praising a holy power forever. The Ancient Egyptians believed in a sun god, the Ancient Greeks and the Ancient Romans believed in individual gods of seperate powers. The Native Americans believed in holy powers and having trust and love in their land. If people were so engulfed in their own belief back in those days, where if someone spoke out and said that it was blantly a bunch of bogus, they themselves would be sent to death. So, if people belived so deeply about their religion, and people now-adays just discredit their beliefs. Why not in the next thousand years, will people not say the same thing of Christianity, or Hinduism, or Buddhism, or Judiasm?

Of course the average Christian, will take into place that Christianity has been around for nearly forever, or he would say why am I not taking credit of the truth of the Bible, where in the revelations, all of the visions have come true, such as land of Jerusalim will be back in the hands of the jews (Israel). Or how the third temple is being built (Israel re-building the 3rd sacrificing temples). Or how the amount of non-believers are starting to believe in Christ as their savior (grown increasingly amount).

Well, I obviously can not say that it was all great guesses. There of course every-day clairvoyances, and people who study the future. These people of course can of course prove to others events in the future that will happen. Such as deja vu (very small scale clairvoyance) except for where these people train all day clairvoyance, in their free time. However, two thousand years ago, and way before that. People were not stressed out in their populations, and devoted their lives to supernatural abilities.

You may now start to say that people can not train to have inhumane powers, such as seeing the future. I now say to you that you are wrong. India's population usually have a decoration on their head, called a bindi (red dot on forehead). The bindi actually symbolizes a third-eye where they were able to create enlightment. If millions upon millions of people believed in this, is it safe to say that it is possible that they had some ability, or they belief would of dissapaited just as quickly as it had come, and Hindus would no longer wear the Bindi.

No where in the Bible does it talk about the third-eye. Not once. Instead, the Bible says that there are no alternate abilities, such as alternating your surrounding. But if the Hindu's, and the Chinese who believed in the Chi, had practiced this for so long, and there are still today people who practice clairvoyances, study of Psi Energy, and Psychokinesis (PK) I myself believe in the ability of PK, and Clairvoyances, as I have had lost an object, and asked a student of Remote Viewing, where it was, and they gave it to me with almost exact precision, where we had no future contact, and were complete strangers.

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So to sum it up, it is impossible to say whether there is or there is not a God. There is no fool proof evidence of him, nor is there evidence to say there is not. However, there is evidence for both sides to merely suggest their side of the story is correct.

Sorry for being so long~