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Majority of Americans don't believe evolution

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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
August 15 2006 07:41 GMT
#1
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/sciencespecial2/15evo.html

Of the percentage that don't believe in evolution, the article doesn't expound upon how many (out of those polled) believe in FSM, but I bet it's a lot. You guys sure are nuts.

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QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
August 15 2006 07:42 GMT
#2
I blame the south, but most of us have "reasonable doubts" anyways ;P

And according to another poll, I believe 90% of all Americans stated they believe in God, so it comes to no surprise for me.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24664 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-08-15 07:48:48
August 15 2006 07:48 GMT
#3
Lol there are lots of stupid people...

I take the results of surveys like that with a grain of salt.

Most of the people I know and have a reasonable amount of respect for acknowledge the fact that humans evolved from lower animals. If you ask me the religious question is not whether or not that occured, the question is whether or not God set this up and/or guided it. Most people seem to argue about the wrong thing.
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9616 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-08-15 07:51:21
August 15 2006 07:50 GMT
#4
edit:: nvm, didnt look at the link, just pic.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
August 15 2006 07:54 GMT
#5
Thanks to people like Kent Hovind this ratio is only going to get more depressing He's gotten o elaborate in his tales, and tells them with such convincing passion that he's long forgotten anything that goes beyond them.

The problem with christians is that it's never enough for them, they always want more and more.

-Mynock
TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
August 15 2006 07:57 GMT
#6
What a joke
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-08-15 08:06:13
August 15 2006 07:57 GMT
#7
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edit:wrong thread
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
August 15 2006 08:04 GMT
#8
to think this country dictates the world, just wow
Hot77.iEy
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Finland1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-08-15 08:18:52
August 15 2006 08:09 GMT
#9
Anyone remember that Penn & Teller episode about creationist whackos? This one christian "scientist" tried to explain how the grand canyons were formed in the great flooding that the bible describes. Get it? One Single Flood made the grand canyon! :DDD Oh and theyre trying to make schools teach creationism in many places in the US today $25 million Creation Museum



Genesis is not science, Genesis is a tale that was handed down for generations by people who really knew nothing about science, who knew nothing about natural history, and certainly knew nothing about what fossils were.


edit: geeze i really do hate hc religious whackos
-.-
rpf289
Profile Joined October 2004
United States3524 Posts
August 15 2006 08:19 GMT
#10
Sample size isn't given, therefore it's safe to conclude the "survery" is inconclusive. This is like me surveying 10 people, getting the same answer from all of them, and generalizing it to the entire country.
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2131 Posts
August 15 2006 08:22 GMT
#11
I dont understand how anyone with a reasonable amount of education can look past the overwhelming evidence for evolution and say its false. Most of these people will blindly stick to their faith. Can they not see that creationism and evolution doesnt neccesarily have to contradict each other? Reading the Scriptures in the very literal sense, you can run into some trouble. You should apply modern knowledge and logical thinking when you interpret some of the things writen in the scriptures. Keep in mind the Bible was writen a long time ago.

Many people take the "God created earth in 7 days" literally which can only lead to denying the evolutionary process. It is unknown how Genesis was writen or even who wrote it. Whos to say it wasnt a vision given to the author by God in the form of symbols. This is personally what I believe but there can be other explanations if you keep an open mind.

Basically I agree with micronesia and believe that God guided the evolutionary process.
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-08-15 09:02:30
August 15 2006 08:35 GMT
#12
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Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-08-16 02:38:46
August 15 2006 08:36 GMT
#13
Recent article on Forbes that focused on the media and evolution: http://pinker.wjh.harvard.edu/articles/media/2006_07_21_forbes.pdf (edit: link to pdf)

Ending:
The unspoken taboo on evolution is not just a tragedy of missed educational opportunities. Our health and economy increasingly depend on biomedical research, from the epidemiology of bird flu to the treatment of AIDS, which depends on understanding evolution. Asian countries, which lack America's squeamishness about evolution, are hell-bent on expanding their biomedical research sector. If we don't overcome our reluctance to excite our children with modern biological thought, it doesn't take a Darwin to predict who will be selected in this struggle for survival.
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3975 Posts
August 15 2006 08:39 GMT
#14
Hot77.iEy: I'm not a christian, nor am i certain of either evolution or creation, but i do believe that a single flood COULD / MAY have created the grand canyon (this flood + the aftereffects of the erosion, formed rivers, winds etc. ). When you look at it from the evolution point of view, the grand canyon wasn't formed during or shortly after the big bang, so there must have been some forces involved after that (like a giant earthquake, a meteorite hit (possibly resulting in a massive flood) or stuff like that). It's not all that unthinkable imo.

I read a theoretical book about this supposed flood once, which was inspiring and a great read (but in dutch). I'm in favor of teaching creationism in schools too (flame me), but alongside evolution. To me, neither are proven, evolution is still a theory, as is creationism, so let's learn kids all there is to know and let them make their own decision.

Problem here mostly is that many amerakins do believe what they're taught and this depends highly on their location. I don't like zealous regilious ppl either, but i got no problem with someone who has looked at this from different points of view and has decided that creation is true. As long as he doesn't go try to convince everyone else (waving his holy book) its fine by me.
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
August 15 2006 08:41 GMT
#15
Well America IS a nation with Christian roots, you friggin pagans.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
August 15 2006 08:43 GMT
#16
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ApollyoN
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1297 Posts
August 15 2006 08:47 GMT
#17
Well you dont really 'believe' in evolution. Thats like saying you dont 'believe' in gravity.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24664 Posts
August 15 2006 08:49 GMT
#18
On August 15 2006 17:39 aseq wrote:
I'm in favor of teaching creationism in schools too (flame me), but alongside evolution. To me, neither are proven, evolution is still a theory, as is creationism, so let's learn kids all there is to know and let them make their own decision.


Most of what we learn in grade school science is still a theory. Just because something is a theory doesn't jusfity the need to teach an alternate regardless of how hopeless the alternate may be. I have yet to see a sound scientific argument for why creationism is a deserving enough theory to be taught in public schools.
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gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2131 Posts
August 15 2006 08:51 GMT
#19
Im ignorant in how creationism is taught in schools. What do they say other than the obvious. It would be more like a theology class... no?
Creationism is not a theory in the scientific sense. Evolution, on the other hand, can be subjected to the scientific process... more or less.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
August 15 2006 08:53 GMT
#20
On August 15 2006 17:39 aseq wrote:
Hot77.iEy: I'm not a christian, nor am i certain of either evolution or creation, but i do believe that a single flood COULD / MAY have created the grand canyon (this flood + the aftereffects of the erosion, formed rivers, winds etc. ).


I think the guy he was talking about believed that the flood itself directly carved the canyon, not any of its after-effects.
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