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Is he a GM or IM?
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BoneThugzNharmon
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Is he a GM or IM? | ||
FO-nTTaX
Johto4979 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4243 Posts
On October 20 2022 08:25 pmh wrote: The crown of the king fell off,you can see him holding it and fiddling with it in the vid. That is so hilarious tbh lol,like when does that ever happen. Black probably was very confused and his instinct was to try repair it. Technically he should have called the arbiter to take care of it but this is such an extra-ordinary situation that you cant really blame him from picking it up and trying to repair it. Quiet funny all in all. uhm.. what? no, of course you can blame him.. it was during the game and on his opponents turn AND it was his opponents piece.. AND he threw it on a random place on the board after dismantling the crown.. should have lost right there tbh. Niemann acted very classy by just shrugging it off imo. Imagine if it was him doing it.. everyone would flip. weirdest thing i've ever seen.. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9792 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18615 Posts
The guy should be disqualified right away. Learn some rules/manners | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2031 Posts
I don't really want to speculate on people's health, but some sort of OCD response or similar is the only acceptable excuse I can come up right now. | ||
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pmh
1414 Posts
This is just a very funny situation overall. Not everything has to be taken so serious. Even hans giggled a bit about it in the intervieuw later,didnt tell what actually did happen (i guess the tournament felt a bit embarresed for a piece to break). Here is a great book with very funny anecdotes about the chessworld. https://www.goodreads.com/nl/book/show/1197573.The_King To all chess lovers:read this book if you can get your hand on it. You wont regret it. And yes,arbiter should have been called but come on. People should lighten up a bit now and then. | ||
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0x64
Finland4608 Posts
Some OCD probably. Kasparov's OCD is much stronger, he would have reacted much stronger if the king's cross was not standing straight. | ||
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pmh
1414 Posts
The grandmaster did open a snickers or something to eat. The master stood up in a posture ready to swing shouting "if you do that one more time i will smash your face" Good times lol. But ya,chess can be quiet emotional. I dont blame hans reaction,which was very modest considering everything. But one look at his opponent tells me he was truly confused and didnt know what to do. The intend was definitely not to distract hans,even though i can imagine it beeing quiet disturbing indeed. I also remember a blitz game between Hikaru and Carlsen. Where carlsen dropped a piece on the ground and Hikaru visually beeing very annoyed by it (though not saying anything). Or Kasparov Polgar where Kasparov touched a piece and started making a move. When he saw it was a blunder and he made a different move with another piece. Polgar was to stunned to say anything about it and the tournament organizers (i believe it was linares) doing everything to cover up the incident. | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2031 Posts
On October 20 2022 21:17 pmh wrote: Where is the humor in the chessworld gone. It didnt used to be like this. This is just a very funny situation overall. Not everything has to be taken so serious. Even hans giggled a bit about it in the intervieuw later,didnt tell what actually did happen (i guess the tournament felt a bit embarresed for a piece to break). Here is a great book with very funny anecdotes about the chessworld. https://www.goodreads.com/nl/book/show/1197573.The_King To all chess lovers:read this book if you can get your hand on it. You wont regret it. And yes,arbiter should have been called but come on. People should lighten up a bit now and then. For me games usually have a bunch of rules that sort of secure the fair competition and after that it's more relaxed fun and games. In chess I'm fine with people fooling around in almost any other part of the game, but your opponent's turn is something you should treat with utmost respect. | ||
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0x64
Finland4608 Posts
The throwing of the piece was comical as well. Very funny overall and Hans won anyway, so no harm done. Usually to create drama, Hans would have needed to lose on time or blunder a piece right after what happened. | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
On October 20 2022 21:30 0x64 wrote: Yes the weirdest thing about this is that Hans is much lower on time and it is his move. Some OCD probably. Kasparov's OCD is much stronger, he would have reacted much stronger if the king's cross was not standing straight. Hans had much more time than Sevian | ||
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0x64
Finland4608 Posts
Ok I saw wrongly that he had 7 minutes and Sevian had 30 minutes... | ||
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0x64
Finland4608 Posts
This is suicide for him. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9792 Posts
On October 21 2022 04:47 0x64 wrote: Niemann sues Chess.com and Magnus Carlsen and Hikaru. This is suicide for him. When you're down material, sometimes all you can do is throw all your pieces at the enemy king. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Bacillus
Finland2031 Posts
This also kind of cements Hans is going to stay in headlines as a suspected cheater for a long time. He didn't do particularly well in the US Championship, but he still competed and stuff like the broken king episode started to give him some other character than just the cheating suspect. Now, the court case is likely going to stay there and get updated for a long while, keeping the cheating bits in the headlines. | ||
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Mikau313
Netherlands230 Posts
Seeing as Niemann has a well known history of cheating (and even admitted to parts of it), it's hard to argue that calling him suspicious or a cheater would ever fall in the category of 'knowingly and intentionally spreading falsehoods', and it's even harder for Niemann to prove that was the case. edit: I meant "spread information you know is false/untrue", just to be sure. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9792 Posts
On October 21 2022 20:36 Mikau313 wrote: As far as I know, the standards for libel and slander are such that you need to prove that the person you're accusing had to knowingly and intentionally spread false information. Seeing as Niemann has a well known history of cheating (and even admitted to parts of it), it's hard to argue that calling him suspicious or a cheater would ever fall in the category of 'knowingly and intentionally spreading falsehoofd', and it's even harder for Niemann to prove that was the case. This is also a very good way to get banned for bringing chess into disrepute. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4243 Posts
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