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On January 01 2022 18:10 M3t4PhYzX wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2021 22:20 RKC wrote:
The Swiss format has to have more rounds for the luck element of the draw to be evened out.
I feel that the top ranked players just happen to hit form at the right timing. Extend to 2-3 more rounds, and we'll probably have a different top 3 or 5. In blitz, I felt that all Top 3 (MVL, Duda, Alireza) were somewhat lucky to ladder up after a poor Day 1 and hit a good run towards the end (Alireza had a fairly easier run of opponents and it's probably fair that he missed out on tie-breaks between the three).
With more rounds, the tie-break problem will be mitigated because the truly deserving players will have an unassailable >1.5 point advantage before the last round (just like the women's edition). Anti-climatic, but fair.
The problem is the large amount of players. Maybe the solution is to increase rounds, but implement a cut-off point to eliminate 50% bottom bracket players? Of course, the tie-break of the cut-off will be problematic (but less controversial than relying on tie-breaks to determine the winner).
yeah, rapid should have stayed at 15 rounds.. no idea why they reduced it to 13.. thats ridiculous. 21 for blitz is okay, but you may be right that cutting the number of players to 200 might be a good idea to implement next year. as for the play-off format.. you should either let every tied player play in them or none of them. this weird two player cut-off doesnt make any sense.. and the play-off format itself also make little sense, as i've already stated in the post above. overall a very interesting tournament for sure but some major improvements would be easily possible to implement, imo
Who would be your MVP for both rapid and blitz?
My top 3: Duda, Carlsen, Levon. They really pushed for the win with exciting plays but unfortunately dropped points due to overpushing and blundering more than usual.
Others like Nakamura, Nepo, Giri just were playing too safe and hoping to capitalise on opponents' blunders - not championship winning mentality imo. Dubov was great too, but his forced draw in last round of blitz with all too play for was a real downer. Same feeling for Caruana (some of games were kinda wacky, maybe he suffered from playing too loose like Carlsen?). Alireza spent too long in the lower bracket, didn't play enough strong opponents, and somewhat fluked getting bronze in blitz at the right timing.
I'm always rooting for underdogs, but Norbidek just got lucky imo. His last 3 opponents blundered winning positions, whilst his win against Carlsen was due to Carlsen unnecessarily pushing for a win in a drawn position. Plus he missed simple mates at the blitz tiebreaks against Nepo and nearly lost his advantage in G2.
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On January 01 2022 18:25 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2022 18:10 M3t4PhYzX wrote:On December 31 2021 22:20 RKC wrote:
The Swiss format has to have more rounds for the luck element of the draw to be evened out.
I feel that the top ranked players just happen to hit form at the right timing. Extend to 2-3 more rounds, and we'll probably have a different top 3 or 5. In blitz, I felt that all Top 3 (MVL, Duda, Alireza) were somewhat lucky to ladder up after a poor Day 1 and hit a good run towards the end (Alireza had a fairly easier run of opponents and it's probably fair that he missed out on tie-breaks between the three).
With more rounds, the tie-break problem will be mitigated because the truly deserving players will have an unassailable >1.5 point advantage before the last round (just like the women's edition). Anti-climatic, but fair.
The problem is the large amount of players. Maybe the solution is to increase rounds, but implement a cut-off point to eliminate 50% bottom bracket players? Of course, the tie-break of the cut-off will be problematic (but less controversial than relying on tie-breaks to determine the winner).
yeah, rapid should have stayed at 15 rounds.. no idea why they reduced it to 13.. thats ridiculous. 21 for blitz is okay, but you may be right that cutting the number of players to 200 might be a good idea to implement next year. as for the play-off format.. you should either let every tied player play in them or none of them. this weird two player cut-off doesnt make any sense.. and the play-off format itself also make little sense, as i've already stated in the post above. overall a very interesting tournament for sure but some major improvements would be easily possible to implement, imo Who would be your MVP for both rapid and blitz? My top 3: Duda, Carlsen, Levon. They really pushed for the win with exciting plays but unfortunately dropped points due to overpushing and blundering more than usual. Others like Nakamura, Nepo, Giri just were playing too safe and hoping to capitalise on opponents' blunders - not championship winning mentality imo. Dubov was great too, but his forced draw in last round of blitz with all too play for was a real downer. Same feeling for Caruana (some of games were kinda wacky, maybe he suffered from playing too loose like Carlsen?). Alireza spent too long in the lower bracket, didn't play enough strong opponents, and somewhat fluked getting bronze in blitz at the right timing. I'm always rooting for underdogs, but Norbidek just got lucky imo. His last 3 opponents blundered winning positions, whilst his win against Carlsen was due to Carlsen unnecessarily pushing for a win in a drawn position. Plus he missed simple mates at the blitz tiebreaks against Nepo and nearly lost his advantage in G2.
My response is..
that I agree with everything you wrote 
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On January 07 2022 20:48 M3t4PhYzX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2022 18:25 RKC wrote:On January 01 2022 18:10 M3t4PhYzX wrote:On December 31 2021 22:20 RKC wrote:
The Swiss format has to have more rounds for the luck element of the draw to be evened out.
I feel that the top ranked players just happen to hit form at the right timing. Extend to 2-3 more rounds, and we'll probably have a different top 3 or 5. In blitz, I felt that all Top 3 (MVL, Duda, Alireza) were somewhat lucky to ladder up after a poor Day 1 and hit a good run towards the end (Alireza had a fairly easier run of opponents and it's probably fair that he missed out on tie-breaks between the three).
With more rounds, the tie-break problem will be mitigated because the truly deserving players will have an unassailable >1.5 point advantage before the last round (just like the women's edition). Anti-climatic, but fair.
The problem is the large amount of players. Maybe the solution is to increase rounds, but implement a cut-off point to eliminate 50% bottom bracket players? Of course, the tie-break of the cut-off will be problematic (but less controversial than relying on tie-breaks to determine the winner).
yeah, rapid should have stayed at 15 rounds.. no idea why they reduced it to 13.. thats ridiculous. 21 for blitz is okay, but you may be right that cutting the number of players to 200 might be a good idea to implement next year. as for the play-off format.. you should either let every tied player play in them or none of them. this weird two player cut-off doesnt make any sense.. and the play-off format itself also make little sense, as i've already stated in the post above. overall a very interesting tournament for sure but some major improvements would be easily possible to implement, imo Who would be your MVP for both rapid and blitz? My top 3: Duda, Carlsen, Levon. They really pushed for the win with exciting plays but unfortunately dropped points due to overpushing and blundering more than usual. Others like Nakamura, Nepo, Giri just were playing too safe and hoping to capitalise on opponents' blunders - not championship winning mentality imo. Dubov was great too, but his forced draw in last round of blitz with all too play for was a real downer. Same feeling for Caruana (some of games were kinda wacky, maybe he suffered from playing too loose like Carlsen?). Alireza spent too long in the lower bracket, didn't play enough strong opponents, and somewhat fluked getting bronze in blitz at the right timing. I'm always rooting for underdogs, but Norbidek just got lucky imo. His last 3 opponents blundered winning positions, whilst his win against Carlsen was due to Carlsen unnecessarily pushing for a win in a drawn position. Plus he missed simple mates at the blitz tiebreaks against Nepo and nearly lost his advantage in G2. My response is.. that I agree with everything you wrote
Tata Steel Chess has begun! I thought I saw your name in the YT chat of Chess24
Who are you betting on for the win? I've a strong feeling for Duda - feels like 2022 may just be his real breakout year (my dark horse pick for Candidates). I'm also keeping a close eye on Dubov - seems like he's back to his dangerous chaos self!
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On January 16 2022 21:14 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2022 20:48 M3t4PhYzX wrote:On January 01 2022 18:25 RKC wrote:On January 01 2022 18:10 M3t4PhYzX wrote:On December 31 2021 22:20 RKC wrote:
The Swiss format has to have more rounds for the luck element of the draw to be evened out.
I feel that the top ranked players just happen to hit form at the right timing. Extend to 2-3 more rounds, and we'll probably have a different top 3 or 5. In blitz, I felt that all Top 3 (MVL, Duda, Alireza) were somewhat lucky to ladder up after a poor Day 1 and hit a good run towards the end (Alireza had a fairly easier run of opponents and it's probably fair that he missed out on tie-breaks between the three).
With more rounds, the tie-break problem will be mitigated because the truly deserving players will have an unassailable >1.5 point advantage before the last round (just like the women's edition). Anti-climatic, but fair.
The problem is the large amount of players. Maybe the solution is to increase rounds, but implement a cut-off point to eliminate 50% bottom bracket players? Of course, the tie-break of the cut-off will be problematic (but less controversial than relying on tie-breaks to determine the winner).
yeah, rapid should have stayed at 15 rounds.. no idea why they reduced it to 13.. thats ridiculous. 21 for blitz is okay, but you may be right that cutting the number of players to 200 might be a good idea to implement next year. as for the play-off format.. you should either let every tied player play in them or none of them. this weird two player cut-off doesnt make any sense.. and the play-off format itself also make little sense, as i've already stated in the post above. overall a very interesting tournament for sure but some major improvements would be easily possible to implement, imo Who would be your MVP for both rapid and blitz? My top 3: Duda, Carlsen, Levon. They really pushed for the win with exciting plays but unfortunately dropped points due to overpushing and blundering more than usual. Others like Nakamura, Nepo, Giri just were playing too safe and hoping to capitalise on opponents' blunders - not championship winning mentality imo. Dubov was great too, but his forced draw in last round of blitz with all too play for was a real downer. Same feeling for Caruana (some of games were kinda wacky, maybe he suffered from playing too loose like Carlsen?). Alireza spent too long in the lower bracket, didn't play enough strong opponents, and somewhat fluked getting bronze in blitz at the right timing. I'm always rooting for underdogs, but Norbidek just got lucky imo. His last 3 opponents blundered winning positions, whilst his win against Carlsen was due to Carlsen unnecessarily pushing for a win in a drawn position. Plus he missed simple mates at the blitz tiebreaks against Nepo and nearly lost his advantage in G2. My response is.. that I agree with everything you wrote Tata Steel Chess has begun! I thought I saw your name in the YT chat of Chess24 Who are you betting on for the win? I've a strong feeling for Duda - feels like 2022 may just be his real breakout year (my dark horse pick for Candidates). I'm also keeping a close eye on Dubov - seems like he's back to his dangerous chaos self!
Before the tournament my favourites were: Carlsen, Caruana, Duda
After 10 rounds only Carlsen delivering and actually leading the tournament by himself. Duda and Caruana in the bottom half.. surprising.
Another interesting story is Arjun Erigaisi totally dominating the Challengers portion of the tournament with 8,5/10 which is 2 whole points ahead of the 2nd place. Very impressive, indeed.
Have you seen the Grand Prix 2022 first leg groups, btw? And what d you think of the format? I actually love how refreshing it is. Someone had a great idea. Hopefully it will be used in more chess tournaments in the future.
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Yes, Carlsen has got this. Some impressive sharp plays, leftovers from WC prep for sure.
Duda and Caruana underperforming is a surprise. Odd to see them so nervy and blundering badly. I've a feeling they may be already in prep mode for the Challengers. Maybe hiding some openings?
Yes, the Grand Prix format is really cool. The seeding system has distributed the players quite well. Not only is this format quite fair, but also may be more engaging to casual viewers (group matchups can create more narrative and hype). Excited to see how the tournament turns out!
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Thanks dude you just saved me a lot of time. I love playing chess and I play more than 15 years.
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I’ve never watched a world championship caliber chess match before, is there a current meta to how its played at the top level?
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On March 02 2022 15:49 lestye wrote:
I’ve never watched a world championship caliber chess match before, is there a current meta to how its played at the top level?
There is! Engine games have brought new ideas, players are more willing to push side pawns, it's quite interesting.
Players are very prepared, their openings usually goes 12-15 moves before they come into unknown territory.
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On June 03 2021 02:49 don_kyuhote wrote:Finally happened. After about 15,000~20,000 combined games online on chess.com and lichess, I got a K+B+N vs. K https://www.chess.com/game/live/16380901525Funny thing is, I went into this, thinking I'll remember how to do it, but once I got the position, I realized that I don't remember how to mate with them, so if he played on, he probably would have drawn, but he resigned. I'm going to go review and memorize how to mate with N+B now. 
Happened to me, but I was down to 45 seconds and couldn't do it. Even after training it quite much.
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On March 02 2022 23:41 0x64 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2022 15:49 lestye wrote:
I’ve never watched a world championship caliber chess match before, is there a current meta to how its played at the top level? There is! Engine games have brought new ideas, players are more willing to push side pawns, it's quite interesting. Players are very prepared, their openings usually goes 12-15 moves before they come into unknown territory.
oh thats interesting. i gotta pay attention. is there a specific youtube channel i should sbuscribe?
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On March 03 2022 02:42 lestye wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2022 23:41 0x64 wrote:On March 02 2022 15:49 lestye wrote:
I’ve never watched a world championship caliber chess match before, is there a current meta to how its played at the top level? There is! Engine games have brought new ideas, players are more willing to push side pawns, it's quite interesting. Players are very prepared, their openings usually goes 12-15 moves before they come into unknown territory. oh thats interesting. i gotta pay attention. is there a specific youtube channel i should sbuscribe?
Chess.com and Chess24 on Youtube frequently broadcast tournaments.
Agadamator's channel is pretty good if you just want to keep up on games and watch 20ish minute youtube videos of tournament games. It's not in-depth analysis though as I think he is only a master. He probably posts 1-2 videos a day.
I used to like ChessNetwork's channel for NM level analysis, again most videos are probably 20-30 minute range, he is fairly infrequent though.
Hikaru streams all the time and posts analysis on some games, but most of his videos are just games from his streams.
Eric Rosen/ChessBrahs/Gotham Chess are all popular chess YT channels as well, but they aren't consistently just analyzing top level games, and again they're only IM level I believe.
There aren't a lot of channels where you get to watch top GM level analysis of top games, you mostly need to watch the tournament streams to get that.
If you're just wanting to get quick ideas and be able to watch the games, Agadamtor is probably the best one, as the others you probably need to sort through all their videos of their own games/viewer games. Agadamtor doesn't post anything besides games between actual top players.
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On March 03 2022 02:42 lestye wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2022 23:41 0x64 wrote:On March 02 2022 15:49 lestye wrote:
I’ve never watched a world championship caliber chess match before, is there a current meta to how its played at the top level? There is! Engine games have brought new ideas, players are more willing to push side pawns, it's quite interesting. Players are very prepared, their openings usually goes 12-15 moves before they come into unknown territory. oh thats interesting. i gotta pay attention. is there a specific youtube channel i should sbuscribe?
https://www.youtube.com/c/AGADMATOR
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Candidates have reached half way mark! Anyone following the games?
So far, competition has been a downer. More or less a two-horse race now. Seems like Nepo-Caruana might well be the next World Championship match! Very likely Carlsen won't feel motivated having another rematch with either of them
What surprises me most is not so much the old guards dominating (the Alireza hype is ridiculous). But that none of the young guns like Alireza, Duda and Rapport putting up a real fight. Probably nerves? I don't expect them to be leading the standings or defeat Nepo or Caruana. But at least take games off each other or the underperformers like Ding and Radjabov (as expected, a big waste of space). Hikaru is the only bright spot.
The lineup looked exciting from the start. But overall, Candidates would be better off with So, Aronian, or even Shak in the mix.
Hoping for some surprises in the second half. But seems almost like a procession now...
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On June 26 2022 19:02 RKC wrote:
Candidates have reached half way mark! Anyone following the games?
So far, competition has been a downer. More or less a two-horse race now. Seems like Nepo-Caruana might well be the next World Championship match! Very likely Carlsen won't feel motivated having another rematch with either of them
What surprises me most is not so much the old guards dominating (the Alireza hype is ridiculous). But that none of the young guns like Alireza, Duda and Rapport putting up a real fight. Probably nerves? I don't expect them to be leading the standings or defeat Nepo or Caruana. But at least take games off each other or the underperformers like Ding and Radjabov (as expected, a big waste of space). Hikaru is the only bright spot.
The lineup looked exciting from the start. But overall, Candidates would be better off with So, Aronian, or even Shak in the mix.
Hoping for some surprises in the second half. But seems almost like a procession now...
I was really hoping for Ding, Rapport or Hikaru to surprise everyone but it looks like there's just a level difference in classical with Nepo and Caruana.
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Yep at the level these people are playing it always comes down to who handles nerves better and thats where experience is just more superior to talent alone
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Looks like it's going to be Nepo again.
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Hikaru might surprise us after his victory vs Caruana, he showed he is not to be ignored, even though at my level it felt like Caruana gave the game more than Hikaru won it.
I am surprised how high Nepo is.
I don't believe a single second that Carlsen would not play the match. Especially if Nepo crushes the rest of the tourney as well.
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