Russia Plans To Enforce Anti-Gay Law at Olympics - Page 25

On August 02 2013 07:06 imBLIND wrote:
I guess I can see why they would not want gay symbols represented at the Olympics...I mean if it were me, I would be really annoyed if I saw gay pride posters everywhere when I'm trying to watch the sport. But either way, I think this law has the potential to turn into a shitstorm.

On August 02 2013 07:01 teddyoojo wrote:
in soviet russia, time moves backwards...

On August 04 2013 04:17 Rassy wrote:
Because it fails to understand a big difference between the 2 situations.
If you want make a nice analogy you should not replace gay with black in that story, but with another sexual orientation (for example pedofilism) Then it would make alot more sense already but that would not give a good outcome so people compare it with racism instead, i do understand why but it is not fair.

There is only one difference between black people and white people and that is the colour of their skin, the idea behind the fight against racism is that you should not judge people on the colour of their skin (over wich people have no influence themselves) but instead judge people on who they are and what actions they make.
The difference between beeing gay and beeing straight is alot bigger then simply the colour of ones skin, it is one of the actions wich defines a part of who and what people are and the example of another sexual orientation makes this clear.
Gays do have equall rights and opportunitys in this world,(at least in the netherlands and most other western countries as far as i can tell). From the outside people can often not even tell if someone is straight or gay and unless people want to be verry vocal about their sexual orientation and use it as a way to express their personality
(something i personally dislike, wether they are gay or straight. i dont like a gay person talking constantly about their sexual orientation and experiences just as i dont like a straightt person who can talk about nothing else then his sexual adventures ) the difference does not need to have an impact on ones normal life.
This much unlike the situation black people where in in the usa up to say 1970 (and even up till now in certain areas) and comparing the 2 imo does not do right to the struggle black people had to face.
Will just close with saying that i do not have annything against gay or straight people (even though some people will think otherwise after reading this post) but comparing homofobia with racism does not feel right at all to me.

On August 04 2013 00:04 FallDownMarigold wrote:

Disagree. The purpose of it aims to bring awareness to inequality until there is none left. That's my understanding anyway

At the Olympics in Sochi suddenly liberal?

Russia wants a controversial new law that prohibits positive statements about homosexuality in 2014 do not apply at the Olympic Winter Games in Sochi. "We are not interested to prevent our guests from enjoying the games, or to restrict their rights," said the spokesman of the responsible for the games Vice-government Dmitry Kozak.

The government in Moscow think about it, limiting the law by decree, the Cossack speaker on. A final decision has not yet been made. "I'm sure we can find a legally perfect solution."

Have received confirmation "of the highest government body" IOC
Earlier, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) had confirmed a commitment of the Russian government. "The IOC has received the highest government office in Russia assurances, is that the law those who participate in the games do not affect," said the IOC in Lausanne, on request, the news agency dpa.

"Sport is a human right"
The IOC warned in a statement not to discriminate against homosexuals and thus violate the Olympic principles. "Sport is a human right and should be available to all regardless of race, gender and sexual orientation," said the IOC. "What we can do as a sports organization is to continue to work to ensure that no discrimination of athletes, officials, spectators and media games take place," it said in the statement.

Why only in Sochi?

Among human rights activists and representatives of gay organizations the assurance of alienation caused to the IOC. "Although this is a political gesture. However, it is legally impossible, this law off times just for the games," said the famous Russian gay activist Nikolai Alexeyev. "This requires a new decision of the Parliament." It is not clear why the law should not apply in Sochi, while it will continue to apply in the rest of the country against homosexuals.

President Vladimir Putin on 30 June signed a law that made positive statements about homosexuality punishable. It had been sharply criticized internationally. Critics regard this law as a clear form of discrimination. They also point out that the law any form of education is impossible. Proponents justify the law with the protection of children.

On August 04 2013 04:32 radiatoren wrote:

Psychological exposure therapy taken to a societal level? I can accept that interpretation. Unfortunately it can become a negative experience for the population at large. Russia has had the "Pussy Riot"-case and several cases of demonstrations from homosexual groups around the last election. This law seems most of all like a calculated suppression of these people Putin does not like or it is a safeguard against these demonstrations becoming a problem, depending on which side you look at it from.

Russia and China are going very far in their "protection of cultural values" to differentiate themself from USA and to keep people from saying something negative about their heritage. It has also influenced several laws in Europe, including the british ISP laws. The main issue of cultural values is them getting put higher than anything in human right charters or constitutions. Cultural values has thus become a way to argue positively for any kind of censorship.

And don't think for a second that "for the children" or "against terrorists" are not cultural value arguments!

On August 04 2013 04:45 Candramelekh wrote:
Thank, Mother Russia, for keeping us from that desease

On August 04 2013 04:10 CatNzHat wrote:

the fuck bro
This has nothing to do with the olympics, it has to do with freedom of speech and expression, and a homophobic asshat of a leader.

On August 04 2013 05:50 farvacola wrote:

While not always true, disapproval and fear oftentimes go hand in hand.

On August 04 2013 05:54 semantics wrote:

Why would you disapprove of something? Because you fear to where it leads.

On August 04 2013 05:58 xsnac wrote:


lol ? you when you dont like a taste of ice-cream it means you are afraid of ice-cream ?

On August 02 2013 18:30 zbedlam wrote:
I wonder if Russia would actually have the balls to arrest any visitors on the grounds of being gay. Don't see why they would do this, its a lose/lose situation for them.

They enforce it and anyone gets punished during the Olympics, they make themselves the public enemy for a lot of people. And if they don't enforce it properly then everyone including their own people will think they are full of it.

edit: Not to mention lost revenue, I can't imagine many gays or gay rights supporters will be going to the russian olympics. What the hell were they thinking.