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MooMu
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada615 Posts
June 28 2013 01:55 GMT
#21
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid.


Actually, no.
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
June 28 2013 01:56 GMT
#22
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


Tell me more about the 1800's.
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
June 28 2013 01:56 GMT
#23
St Lambert is very english as well.
We decide our own destiny
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
June 28 2013 01:57 GMT
#24
On June 28 2013 10:56 SnipedSoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


Tell me more about the 1800's.


those were the days of freedom and responsibility man!
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 28 2013 01:57 GMT
#25
On June 28 2013 10:55 lifeisgood99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


People have rights and stuff.


Hes from the US they dont have rights there
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
June 28 2013 01:57 GMT
#26
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.

In most jobs with hourly wages, you clock out when you take your lunch. Therefore, it would be illegal for your employer to require you to do anything during that period of time, since working off the clock is illegal.
Procrastination is the enemy
MooMu
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada615 Posts
June 28 2013 01:59 GMT
#27
On June 28 2013 10:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On June 28 2013 10:55 lifeisgood99 wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


People have rights and stuff.


Hes from the US they dont have rights there


Nor French Fries.
2WeaK
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada550 Posts
June 28 2013 01:59 GMT
#28
On June 28 2013 10:56 Tien wrote:
St Lambert is very english as well.


This made me lol, as I was watching the video, I was kind of surprised to find out that people spoke English there... I often speak English outside of Montreal with clerks and waitresses out of habit (my family hates me for that, but who cares) and I often correct myself back into French.

I still think shit sucks, where I work, we often make fun of this very situation, and just poke fun at each other because we have a lot of French employees (from France) and even they don't understand why Quebec makes such a big deal about the language.
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
June 28 2013 01:59 GMT
#29
On June 28 2013 10:55 lifeisgood99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


People have rights and stuff.


People don't have the right to a job. People don't have to do what they're told by their employer to do. If this were happening to every job, that would be one thing. This is only happening for that one job that decided to do this. You can choose not to work there.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
June 28 2013 01:59 GMT
#30
On one hand, this kind of aggressive language policing seems like a losing battle in the age of the internet and whatnot. On the other hand as someone who graduated from a Canadian high school with no real third language skills (ie, languages that I had the option to take) I wish that bilingualism was more widespread. Certainly wish I spoke more languages and being forced to do so would have been one way to get my lazy dumbass to do it.
MooMu
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada615 Posts
June 28 2013 02:01 GMT
#31
On June 28 2013 10:59 Uncultured wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 10:55 lifeisgood99 wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


People have rights and stuff.


People don't have the right to a job. People don't have to do what they're told by their employer to do. If this were happening to every job, that would be one thing. This is only happening for that one job that decided to do this. You can choose not to work there.


That's not the right he's talking about.
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
June 28 2013 02:02 GMT
#32
On June 28 2013 10:59 Uncultured wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 10:55 lifeisgood99 wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


People have rights and stuff.


People don't have the right to a job. People don't have to do what they're told by their employer to do. If this were happening to every job, that would be one thing. This is only happening for that one job that decided to do this. You can choose not to work there.


What if there is at least one other employer who does this? Where do you draw the line?

Personally, I am okay with it until 16.539 employers do it.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 28 2013 02:02 GMT
#33
On June 28 2013 10:59 Uncultured wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 10:55 lifeisgood99 wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


People have rights and stuff.


People don't have the right to a job. People don't have to do what they're told by their employer to do. If this were happening to every job, that would be one thing. This is only happening for that one job that decided to do this. You can choose not to work there.


People have the right to not be discriminated in their workplace just as they are supposed to be free of discrimination outside of the workplace. Asking your staff to follow company policy and speak a specific language when dealing with your customers is one thing. Telling them what they can do in their own time is something you can't do.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 28 2013 02:02 GMT
#34
On June 28 2013 10:59 Uncultured wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 10:55 lifeisgood99 wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


People have rights and stuff.


People don't have the right to a job. People don't have to do what they're told by their employer to do. If this were happening to every job, that would be one thing. This is only happening for that one job that decided to do this. You can choose not to work there.

So what would prevent everyone else from doing this, by your logic, then? And if everyone else did this, what would you do?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
June 28 2013 02:04 GMT
#35
On June 28 2013 11:02 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 10:59 Uncultured wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:55 lifeisgood99 wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


People have rights and stuff.


People don't have the right to a job. People don't have to do what they're told by their employer to do. If this were happening to every job, that would be one thing. This is only happening for that one job that decided to do this. You can choose not to work there.

So what would prevent everyone else from doing this, by your logic, then? And if everyone else did this, what would you do?


Prevent them from doing this? Not having any workers. Terrible public opinion. Loss of sales/revenue due to bad business practice. I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying that is how it happens.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
June 28 2013 02:05 GMT
#36
On June 28 2013 11:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 10:59 Uncultured wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:55 lifeisgood99 wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


People have rights and stuff.


People don't have the right to a job. People don't have to do what they're told by their employer to do. If this were happening to every job, that would be one thing. This is only happening for that one job that decided to do this. You can choose not to work there.


People have the right to not be discriminated in their workplace just as they are supposed to be free of discrimination outside of the workplace. Asking your staff to follow company policy and speak a specific language when dealing with your customers is one thing. Telling them what they can do in their own time is something you can't do.



If it's on their own time it's horseshit, and I agree with you completely. But if it's referring to speaking to customers, then I understand it.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
June 28 2013 02:06 GMT
#37
On June 28 2013 11:04 Uncultured wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 11:02 Shikyo wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:59 Uncultured wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:55 lifeisgood99 wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


People have rights and stuff.


People don't have the right to a job. People don't have to do what they're told by their employer to do. If this were happening to every job, that would be one thing. This is only happening for that one job that decided to do this. You can choose not to work there.

So what would prevent everyone else from doing this, by your logic, then? And if everyone else did this, what would you do?


Prevent them from doing this? Not having any workers. Terrible public opinion. Loss of sales/revenue due to bad business practice. I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying that is how it happens.


I don't understand the point you're making.

Obviously this happens otherwise this thread and news article wouldn't exist.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 28 2013 02:07 GMT
#38
On June 28 2013 11:05 Uncultured wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 11:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:59 Uncultured wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:55 lifeisgood99 wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


People have rights and stuff.


People don't have the right to a job. People don't have to do what they're told by their employer to do. If this were happening to every job, that would be one thing. This is only happening for that one job that decided to do this. You can choose not to work there.


People have the right to not be discriminated in their workplace just as they are supposed to be free of discrimination outside of the workplace. Asking your staff to follow company policy and speak a specific language when dealing with your customers is one thing. Telling them what they can do in their own time is something you can't do.



If it's on their own time it's horseshit, and I agree with you completely. But if it's referring to speaking to customers, then I understand it.


The whole complaint of the article though was the employee being unallowed to speak it in the break room/to other employees. Breaks are your own time.

I can understand management not wanting employees talking in english infront of customers but when not dealing with it who cares?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
RedMorning
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada117 Posts
June 28 2013 02:08 GMT
#39
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


Seriously? Really should think this one through...
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
June 28 2013 02:09 GMT
#40
On June 28 2013 11:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 11:05 Uncultured wrote:
On June 28 2013 11:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:59 Uncultured wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:55 lifeisgood99 wrote:
On June 28 2013 10:51 Uncultured wrote:
They are your employer. They pay you do do whatever the fuck they like. You do it, or you don't get paid. That's how I feel about this.


People have rights and stuff.


People don't have the right to a job. People don't have to do what they're told by their employer to do. If this were happening to every job, that would be one thing. This is only happening for that one job that decided to do this. You can choose not to work there.


People have the right to not be discriminated in their workplace just as they are supposed to be free of discrimination outside of the workplace. Asking your staff to follow company policy and speak a specific language when dealing with your customers is one thing. Telling them what they can do in their own time is something you can't do.



If it's on their own time it's horseshit, and I agree with you completely. But if it's referring to speaking to customers, then I understand it.


The whole complaint of the article though was the employee being unallowed to speak it in the break room/to other employees. Breaks are your own time.

I can understand management not wanting employees talking in english infront of customers but when not dealing with it who cares?


I'm sorry then, I totally misread the OP. I though reference to "the floor" meant in front of customers/the selling floor of the business.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
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