Bestiality in Sweden soon to be illegal - Page 4

On June 14 2013 17:37 Calliopee wrote:
Still legal in Denmark lol. I agree; this really shouldn't be an issue and surely there are more much more pressing matters - rapist getting away with 6 months jail comes to mind - but still; just illegalize it and get on with it - GG Sweden!

On June 14 2013 17:51 Calliopee wrote:


Using the same logic, would It be cool if I tucked my penis inside a woman who's passed out? I mean she won't get harmed - I make gentle loving and Ill use protection and she won't remember a thing. Also, it's a well-known fact that men outrank women in our day and age - just look at any statitistics - they'll confirm that woman are infact inferior to men. Guess Ill be hitting town tonight!

On June 14 2013 18:05 Laserist wrote:
This is the creepiest thread that I ever saw. Strange people, strange discussions.

On June 14 2013 18:05 Laserist wrote:
This is the creepiest thread that I ever saw. Strange people, strange discussions.

On June 14 2013 18:05 KwarK wrote:

Sorry, clearly you're confused by your colossal amount of idiocy. When I said I was fine with this because no animal was being harmed I wasn't suggesting that that was the only way of judging whether something was right or wrong. Rape is wrong, even though it doesn't involve any animals at all. I brought up harm of animals because it is eminently relevant to this issue but it's actually less relevant to other issues such as rape which doesn't involve any animals at all. There are things which make things bad and in this case harm of animals would be one of them but in other cases we might use other factors. Hopefully that clears up my point for you so you can avoid making such incredibly, obscenely stupid straw men arguments in future.

On June 14 2013 18:09 Calliopee wrote:


I dont mind having this discussion - not that thers much to discuss, we think different about the subject, but if you can't play nice I'll go and spend time in another thread...

On June 14 2013 18:00 KwarK wrote:

Murder of people is wrong, slaughter of animals is fine, the reason for this is that our system or morality puts value on sentience and we have it and they don't. We outrank them. No people are being harmed and this is in the bedroom between consenting adults and what we view legally as little more than biological machines for creating meat and other animal products, I'd much rather the law accepted that it simply had no place in the bedroom that going after things that the vast majority can hate on.

Take gay sex. It's not fine because it's two consenting adults, it's fine because no-one is getting harmed because they're two consenting adults. The fact that consenting adults are involved doesn't necessarily make something fine, rather it is the lack of harm that makes it fine and the consent is relevant because it indicates a lack of harm. A man fucking a dog is fine for the exact same reason as gay sex, because no-one is getting harmed. The law has no place in the bedroom outside of protecting people and the previous laws already covered that. This is just picking a sexual niche and outlawing it for no reason, the previous law even covered the animal cruelty aspect, this law only criminalises no cruel beastiality.

On June 14 2013 18:12 xM(Z wrote:

but a person can tell you if he likes it or not/if you harm him or not/, with animals you just assume; based on? ... you being (part) animal, science?. any reason you invoke, it'll still be a 2nd or 3rd party making the calls for animals.

On June 14 2013 18:11 KwarK wrote:

You think you were making an actual point but you didn't, instead what you did was brought up something that was not only an irrelevant straw man but also something that was incredibly personally offensive to me.

On June 14 2013 17:58 aNGryaRchon wrote:

I didn't think it was possible, but you just manage to be more ridiculous than your earlier post?
Make love? Shall we go now and interview "couples" engaged in bestiality and ask how much they love each other to really feel the need to... make LOVE!!! lol how stupid is that!

On June 14 2013 18:00 KwarK wrote:

Murder of people is wrong, slaughter of animals is fine, the reason for this is that our system or morality puts value on sentience and we have it and they don't. We outrank them. No people are being harmed and this is in the bedroom between consenting adults and what we view legally as little more than biological machines for creating meat and other animal products, I'd much rather the law accepted that it simply had no place in the bedroom that going after things that the vast majority can hate on.

Take gay sex. It's not fine because it's two consenting adults, it's fine because no-one is getting harmed because they're two consenting adults. The fact that consenting adults are involved doesn't necessarily make something fine, rather it is the lack of harm that makes it fine and the consent is relevant because it indicates a lack of harm. A man fucking a dog is fine for the exact same reason as gay sex, because no-one is getting harmed. The law has no place in the bedroom outside of protecting people and the previous laws already covered that. This is just picking a sexual niche and outlawing it for no reason, the previous law even covered the animal cruelty aspect, this law only criminalises no cruel beastiality.

On June 14 2013 18:09 KwarK wrote:
Basically we have two options here
A) Government can make laws against what people do in the bedroom that doesn't hurt another person as long as it's something that you personally, along with a majority of others, aren't into.
B) Government doesn't makes laws about what people can do in the bedroom.

I'd rather option A, it doesn't mean I want to fuck animals, it just means I don't want to use the law as a stick to fuck people I don't like with.

On June 14 2013 18:15 Calliopee wrote:


If I offended you with that post I'm sorry, but calling "X outranks Y and therefore X can do whatever it fucking likes" is in my eyes the worst kind of justification. And who are we to tell whos getting harmed in the process? Last time i checked animals (cept a few) didn't have intercourse for other reasons than reproduction. I agree with you; there are more aspects to it than that, but just because you can do something does in no way or form justify doing it.

On June 14 2013 18:09 namste wrote:


I second that. Really freaking strange if people say that banging non-human animals is ok.