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FreeZer
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden288 Posts
June 14 2013 08:23 GMT
#41
This doesn't even deserve attention. Who the fuck cares? If a case of bestiality would actually hurt anyone, human or animal, other laws would be able to handle it from there. There are a million problems more pressing than this one.
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
June 14 2013 08:26 GMT
#42
Guys please read.. 209 cases since 1970... That's 209 cases in 40 years lol. Of course it's taboo as fuck. All this does is making it easier for police and prosecutors to actually get a conviction.
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aNGryaRchon
Profile Joined August 2012
United States438 Posts
June 14 2013 08:31 GMT
#43
On June 14 2013 17:16 Reason wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 17:15 wozzot wrote:
Eh, as long as I can still eat meat. I don't think animals can consent to being eaten either but whatever

Yeah this is the really funny thing and nttea mentioned it earlier.

We can enslave and/or consume them but make love to them? You sick bastard!

Make love? LOL you're ridiculous!
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
June 14 2013 08:32 GMT
#44
On June 14 2013 16:16 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 16:14 Orangered wrote:
On June 14 2013 16:11 nttea wrote:
We can own them, pet them, restrain them but god forbid someone tries something sexual with them. Stupid law but if i were to protest something it'd be something more important so W/E.

Are you implying you think sex with animals is ok?


I think he's implying he actually does it.

I think it's disgusting but as long as the animals don't get hurt i don't see why we should bother the police/courts with that stuff, they got more important things to do.
Xahhk
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada540 Posts
June 14 2013 08:34 GMT
#45
On June 14 2013 17:31 aNGryaRchon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 17:16 Reason wrote:
On June 14 2013 17:15 wozzot wrote:
Eh, as long as I can still eat meat. I don't think animals can consent to being eaten either but whatever

Yeah this is the really funny thing and nttea mentioned it earlier.

We can enslave and/or consume them but make love to them? You sick bastard!

Make love? LOL you're ridiculous!


My dog on girl porn says otherwise.
Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
June 14 2013 08:35 GMT
#46
It used to not be illegal in the Netherlands. And we became almost the leading producer of bestiality porn in the world. It got banned a few years ago, but it hasn't changed anything because the network and logistics still exist.

I'm not sure what I think about this subject. I think it probably should be illegal for various reasons. But it's a strange world where you can kill an animal just for food even without anesthesia (if your religion demands it) but you can't "make love" to that same animal. Which would in any case hurt it a lot less.
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 08:38:12
June 14 2013 08:36 GMT
#47
On June 14 2013 17:21 endy wrote:
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On June 14 2013 17:15 Reason wrote:
On June 14 2013 17:12 Incognoto wrote:
On June 14 2013 16:59 aNGryaRchon wrote:
On June 14 2013 16:56 DorF wrote:
A total of 209 cases of bestiality, of which 161 involved horses, have been documented since the 1970s.
wow that's shockingly low number. I came here thinking " maybe we Swedes are weird" but 200 cases in 43 years ?
not even bothered.

Maybe those are only the documented cases.

On June 14 2013 16:55 furymonkey wrote:
What if the animal are the first to engage, with no lure involves, doesn't that prove that animal aren't the one to suffer?

Tricky. Some perv would just coat his nuts with honey, get near a horse and let nature's instincts follow, if horses are on to that sort of thing, them BAM, perv wins vs. law.

EDIT:perv can claim honey is not intended as a lure, just he wants his nuts covered with it.


He could probably say good-bye to his nuts..


I'm also surprised that it wasn't already illegal. Is attraction to animals considered a mental illness by the way?

No it's not an illness any more than an irrational fear of buttons.

afaik phobias, fetishes and preferences are not considered illnesses.


That's always a tricky question.
One could argue that pedophilia is also just a "preference". Basically almost anything that has no genetic or viral cause could be potentially categorized as a "preference".

Yeah it is just a preference really.

Technically: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia
Specifically: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronophilia

There's a lot of grey areas around this sort of thing and when compared to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

you will see less attention is paid to actually classifying these things properly and more just to how they tie in with our laws and morals. Hebephilia, ephebophilia and pedophilia are just different types of chronophilia yet only pedophilia is actually recognised or viewed as a mental disorder, or is on the list of mental disorders, essentially because it contradicts our laws and morals to a greater extent than the others and people are anxious to label and classify things in an effort to understand them.

Really whether it's an illness, a fetish, a preference or whatever else seems more to be down to individual opinion and current psychological understanding or classifications rather than a cold, hard, factual answer.

On June 14 2013 17:31 aNGryaRchon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 17:16 Reason wrote:
On June 14 2013 17:15 wozzot wrote:
Eh, as long as I can still eat meat. I don't think animals can consent to being eaten either but whatever

Yeah this is the really funny thing and nttea mentioned it earlier.

We can enslave and/or consume them but make love to them? You sick bastard!

Make love? LOL you're ridiculous!

lol it might sound funny but I watched a documentary on this sort of thing and I've seen videos on the internet that confirm some people do genuinely make love to animals, whether you can imagine yourself doing so or not is irrelevant, it happens.


On June 14 2013 17:23 namste wrote:
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On June 14 2013 17:16 Reason wrote:
On June 14 2013 17:15 wozzot wrote:
Eh, as long as I can still eat meat. I don't think animals can consent to being eaten either but whatever

Yeah this is the really funny thing and nttea mentioned it earlier.

We can enslave and/or consume them but make love to them? You sick bastard!


A guy stuffing his dick into a chicken is hardly love making.

Agreed, but that's not what I was referring to.
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Calliopee
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark151 Posts
June 14 2013 08:37 GMT
#48
Still legal in Denmark lol. I agree; this really shouldn't be an issue and surely there are more much more pressing matters - rapist getting away with 6 months jail comes to mind - but still; just illegalize it and get on with it - GG Sweden!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42647 Posts
June 14 2013 08:38 GMT
#49
I strongly disagree with this change, if no animal is being harmed then who gives a fuck, people outrank animals anyway and the law has no place in the bedroom.
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dimomarg
Profile Joined March 2013
Greece11 Posts
June 14 2013 08:40 GMT
#50
So has anyone got a link to that dog-fucker site? I want a laugh
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QuackPocketDuck
Profile Joined January 2011
410 Posts
June 14 2013 08:42 GMT
#51
Fuck yea time to get a proxy for mad euro pron
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TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
June 14 2013 08:42 GMT
#52
On June 14 2013 17:40 dimomarg wrote:
So has anyone got a link to that dog-fucker site? I want a laugh


just no
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Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 08:47:21
June 14 2013 08:43 GMT
#53
On June 14 2013 17:38 KwarK wrote:
I strongly disagree with this change, if no animal is being harmed then who gives a fuck, people outrank animals anyway and the law has no place in the bedroom.

o.O this doesn't sound like your typical overly-sarcastic post that says the complete opposite of what you believe in an effort to emphasise how stupid that line of thinking is.

Bolded section is only thing that makes me still think this is a joke but tone is hard to detect on the internet....

Reading the following post I can only assume this is how you really feel about the issue ???
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
June 14 2013 08:44 GMT
#54
It's totally fine to hold cows against their 'will', slaugther them and eat them. but god forbid you but your penis in them. because THAT would be animal cruelty... Chances are that the fucking cow or orse or pig doesn't even mind your little human dick. It's completely nonsensical and just a byproduct of an irrational culturous development. Everyone should be able to fuck their animals as long as it doesn't violate the animal cruelty laws.
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Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
June 14 2013 08:46 GMT
#55
Bestiality cases have basically fallen under animal cruelty before, but if the animal didn't suffer any physical injuries... well, how do you prove that its mental health was affected? That's the reasoning behind the new law, because it's too hard to prove something like that.

That it was made legal at the same time as homosexuality due to being in the same paragraph is almost amusing, though. Just how lazy were we?
Calliopee
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark151 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 09:26:08
June 14 2013 08:51 GMT
#56
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 09:01:47
June 14 2013 08:58 GMT
#57
animal cruelty laws were made by the people for what they think/assume/assessed animal cruelty means. now, if the laws were made by the animals in question, it would be an entire different/valid issue.

also, zoo keepers/water park amusement center(or whatever they're called)keepers/scientists/veterinarians and maybe a few others, jerk off animals to release them of stress/to take samples/and so on.
obviously there is a thin grey line here. how would one prove one but not the other?.
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aNGryaRchon
Profile Joined August 2012
United States438 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 08:59:46
June 14 2013 08:58 GMT
#58
On June 14 2013 17:36 Reason wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 17:31 aNGryaRchon wrote:
On June 14 2013 17:16 Reason wrote:
On June 14 2013 17:15 wozzot wrote:
Eh, as long as I can still eat meat. I don't think animals can consent to being eaten either but whatever

Yeah this is the really funny thing and nttea mentioned it earlier.

We can enslave and/or consume them but make love to them? You sick bastard!

Make love? LOL you're ridiculous!

lol it might sound funny but I watched a documentary on this sort of thing and I've seen videos on the internet that confirm some people do genuinely make love to animals, whether you can imagine yourself doing so or not is irrelevant, it happens.

I didn't think it was possible, but you just manage to be more ridiculous than your earlier post?
Make love? Shall we go now and interview "couples" engaged in bestiality and ask how much they love each other to really feel the need to... make LOVE!!! lol how stupid is that!
Power overwhelming!!!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42647 Posts
June 14 2013 09:00 GMT
#59
On June 14 2013 17:43 Reason wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 17:38 KwarK wrote:
I strongly disagree with this change, if no animal is being harmed then who gives a fuck, people outrank animals anyway and the law has no place in the bedroom.

o.O this doesn't sound like your typical overly-sarcastic post that says the complete opposite of what you believe in an effort to emphasise how stupid that line of thinking is.

Bolded section is only thing that makes me still think this is a joke but tone is hard to detect on the internet....

Reading the following post I can only assume this is how you really feel about the issue ???

Murder of people is wrong, slaughter of animals is fine, the reason for this is that our system or morality puts value on sentience and we have it and they don't. We outrank them. No people are being harmed and this is in the bedroom between consenting adults and what we view legally as little more than biological machines for creating meat and other animal products, I'd much rather the law accepted that it simply had no place in the bedroom that going after things that the vast majority can hate on.

Take gay sex. It's not fine because it's two consenting adults, it's fine because no-one is getting harmed because they're two consenting adults. The fact that consenting adults are involved doesn't necessarily make something fine, rather it is the lack of harm that makes it fine and the consent is relevant because it indicates a lack of harm. A man fucking a dog is fine for the exact same reason as gay sex, because no-one is getting harmed. The law has no place in the bedroom outside of protecting people and the previous laws already covered that. This is just picking a sexual niche and outlawing it for no reason, the previous law even covered the animal cruelty aspect, this law only criminalises no cruel beastiality.
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PerryHooter
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden268 Posts
June 14 2013 09:02 GMT
#60
On June 14 2013 15:57 Orangered wrote:
I don't know about Sweden, but in my part of Europe, and I am sure elsewhere, bestiality is normally just instinctively taboo, hence it does not even have to be legislated. Any swedes here care to provide further details?


I don't know about your country, but in sweden rape and murder is instinctively taboo, and yet it's illegal here. Weird shit.
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