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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
February 02 2018 00:50 GMT
#1061
Soooo glad I kept my gains and pulled put when I did.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4356 Posts
February 02 2018 01:06 GMT
#1062
On December 15 2017 19:45 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Fees are way too high right now
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Probably around the greed/delusion stage.

Now in capitulation stage.Stabilise around 3-4k maybe?
Ethereum will overtake bitcoin in marketcap pretty soon though which could cause bitcoin to drop harder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
February 02 2018 02:18 GMT
#1063
I think Bitcoin will be fine. By end of March 15k.
Ethereum will stabilize back to 1k soon, then by end of April rise onwards, but it won't take over BTC anytime soon.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-05 11:59:02
February 05 2018 11:43 GMT
#1064
I don't get these price estimates people come up with, what are they based on? Just a few posts back someone said "i highly doubt it'll ever go below 7k" and it's 500$ away from getting there.. A few posts before him someone else said "if it drops below 8k it'll go down to 5k", contradictory opinons no?

I mean if everyone just throws random numbers out there someone is bound to be right.. eventually. You're trying to rationalize how a speculative market works, it honestly makes no sense to me.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
February 05 2018 11:58 GMT
#1065
they're just amateur gamblers
nothing more.
© Current year.
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1366 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-05 16:39:18
February 05 2018 16:36 GMT
#1066
yup,ha ha. Nothing wrong with that btw,it can be fun.

6k support,after that 4k.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
February 05 2018 20:17 GMT
#1067
damn i was gonna buy on the way down but looks like all CCs block coinbase purchases. i will have to link to a dummy savings account, dont feel comfortable giving out my real account routing #
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-05 22:51:26
February 05 2018 22:50 GMT
#1068
I would like to buy some BTC when it's tanking like crazy. I'm sure that in the future it'll rebound back, this is BTC of course.

Something like throwing in $50-100 and seeing where that goes in a few years. I definitely won't care about trying to make short term gains and I won't spend more money than I'm willing to lose outright either. Where's a good place to do that?
maru lover forever
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
February 05 2018 23:03 GMT
#1069
On February 06 2018 07:50 Incognoto wrote:
I would like to buy some BTC when it's tanking like crazy. I'm sure that in the future it'll rebound back, this is BTC of course.

Something like throwing in $50-100 and seeing where that goes in a few years. I definitely won't care about trying to make short term gains and I won't spend more money than I'm willing to lose outright either. Where's a good place to do that?


If you buy that little I don't suggest BTC because the transaction fee is way too much (i.e. one month ago on 50 euro the fee was like 24). Ethereum is a better bet for low quantities imo. Don't know if I can link sites here but if you pm I can explain some stuff (I learned on my own and it took quite some time)
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
February 05 2018 23:32 GMT
#1070
If he sits on it, then the transaction fees don’t matter, and by the time he does think about using it, I’m positive the fees will be way down. Also it’s not random numbers were callin , it’s based off years of data. Remember BTC has been around since 2009.

If you want to just let it sit, I really suggest Gemini.
Life?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-06 00:02:17
February 06 2018 00:01 GMT
#1071
Years of data, what type of data? Because everyone seems to have a different number.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4356 Posts
February 06 2018 00:33 GMT
#1072
On February 06 2018 08:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If he sits on it, then the transaction fees don’t matter, and by the time he does think about using it, I’m positive the fees will be way down. Also it’s not random numbers were callin , it’s based off years of data. Remember BTC has been around since 2009.

If you want to just let it sit, I really suggest Gemini.

Fees are way down.Not many buyers right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 06 2018 03:29 GMT
#1073
I haven't watched too carefully, but seems like would be good time to throw some chump change into shorting bitcoin? Anyone want to chime in on whether or not that would be a good/bad idea? And maybe someone PM me a broker that has very low transaction fees?
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-06 04:34:57
February 06 2018 04:17 GMT
#1074
On February 05 2018 20:43 TT1 wrote:
I don't get these price estimates people come up with, what are they based on? Just a few posts back someone said "i highly doubt it'll ever go below 7k" and it's 500$ away from getting there.. A few posts before him someone else said "if it drops below 8k it'll go down to 5k", contradictory opinons no?

I mean if everyone just throws random numbers out there someone is bound to be right.. eventually. You're trying to rationalize how a speculative market works, it honestly makes no sense to me.


The 8k I cited was based on the below technical analysis, of course this is more of an art than a science and we now have the benefit of hindsight but here is my line of thinking:

I preface this by saying I believe the true value of bitcoin is $0. However we can still make some judgments based on the chart.

1. The 200-day moving average (lower purple curve below) is a very common indicator. One of the reasons for the Dow sinking so hard today was that is broke down below it's 50-day moving average, which is also commonly used. The 200 MA for bitcoin was right around the $8k mark.
2. You can see the last times that bitcoin hit the $8k mark (blue circles) in November, the price met with resistance and got stuck there on the way up. This indicates future resistance on the downward side is likely at the same level.
3. The downward trend was unlikely to end anytime soon while in the $10k range, you can see the MACD (orange circles) had "crossed over" at the recent high near $20k. You would expect these to cross over again before a long term bullish run resumes. You can see this nearly occurred again just before touching the $8k mark, again indicating resistance at that level.

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If I were interested in investing in cryptos, which I am not, I would definitely not be a buyer right now because I don't see the downward trend ending soon.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4356 Posts
February 06 2018 04:28 GMT
#1075
On February 06 2018 12:29 hunts wrote:
I haven't watched too carefully, but seems like would be good time to throw some chump change into shorting bitcoin? Anyone want to chime in on whether or not that would be a good/bad idea? And maybe someone PM me a broker that has very low transaction fees?

Could do.Still is very risky as i think it will start stabilising soon.The best investment right now is clearly gold mining stocks.They're flat during a rapidly falling market and gold is continuing it's creep up as the VIX skyrockets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 06 2018 04:51 GMT
#1076
Could someone PM me what website you would use if you wanted to use some small amount of change to trade it? Also which gold mining stocks are you referring to?
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4356 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-06 11:12:30
February 06 2018 11:08 GMT
#1077
I have no idea what gold miners to invest on the dow.
On the ASX i follow RRL, SAR and NST and have invested and sold at profit on all of those in the past but am paying off debts currently and have no money in the market right now.All are flat 0.01 to -0.01 despite the asx falling 3.5% yesterday.

Might be better looking into canadian gold stocks.Here is a list.http://www.miningfeeds.com/gold-mining-report-canada
As always you should maintain a balanced portfolio so feel free to have 20% invested in crypto, 30% in gold and the rest however you want.Maybe some in physical gold or silver even but i wouldn't invest in the majority of other stocks or bonds right now and keeping it in usd is also pretty dumb since Trumps tax plan will lead to higher inflation which is one of the reasons i think cryptos will stabilise and climb soon.My 2c.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
February 06 2018 16:28 GMT
#1078
Just a word of caution that gold mining stocks are not necessarily correlated to gold itself
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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
February 06 2018 19:41 GMT
#1079
It seems markets are starting to go up again.
Dating thread on TL LUL
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1366 Posts
February 07 2018 05:34 GMT
#1080
There used to be this saying:a mine is a hole in the ground with a liar on top of it.
There are some decent gold stocks but overall it has not been a very attractive sector over the years.
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