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For those top students who are disappointed by rejections and probably experiencing academic "failure" for the first time, just keep a few things in mind:
1. Assuming you applied smartly (ie not just HYPSM) you will likely gain admittance to one of the top universities in the country.
2. Your college doesn't define you, it's what you make out of your opportunities, and believe me they are endless at any top school.
3. Even if you feel like you're "settling" by going to a "lesser" school than whatever your dream school was, chances are that you'll find a ton of people at that school that are more driven, more talented, and more intelligent than you. Don't underestimate the caliber of students at any of the top schools or else you'll suddenly find yourself an average or below average student.
4. Once you decide on a school to attend, forget about the rejections or other schools you turned down. Don't wallow in misery and bitterness that you aren't attending your dream school. If you give your school a fair chance, you'll probably end up loving wherever you attend. |
On March 31 2013 01:51 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 01:23 Recognizable wrote:On March 31 2013 01:04 julianto wrote:On March 30 2013 23:36 wei2coolman wrote:On March 30 2013 16:23 Disregard wrote:
SATs and GPAs don't matter as much for Ivys anymore, they're looking for talent and creativity or if you're good at sports. The admission rates for them are so inflated due to every other student trying to get in. SAT + GPAs are just a "filter" for Ivy Leagues now. That means they'll auto filter out anyone who's GPA and SAT aren't high enough; then they go through the rest of admissions. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/19/fears-of-an-asian-quota-in-the-ivy-league/statistics-indicate-an-ivy-league-asian-quotaInteresting article; I think it's sort of a known secret that Ivy leagues have been starting to limit the percentage of AA in their schools; otherwise they'd end up like UC system where it's like 40% asian americans. Pour more money into the universities with no affirmative action so that they become better than the Ivies. I don't think that'll help much. One of the reasons Ivy's are the best is because everyone thinks they are the best and thus attract the most talent/funding and best professors. UC's are proof otherwise. Best public school system, and offers comparable education, and more often than not rank in the same places as IVY leagues. UCSD/UCLA/UCB; all rank equally with Ivys, and are much cheaper. Ivy tuition cost is expensive as fuck, but that's more so because it's a private school system, not because they're "top tier". A lot of private universities cost as much as Ivy league schools, even if they aren't as well known. Even the lower UC System schools like UCD/UCI/UCSB/UCSC/UCR, rank very favorably over all in comparison to overall top universities in the US.
According to recent rankings, UCD (not overall), has matched, and even in some cases, out ranked some Ivy leagues.
Overall ranking for UCD is relatively good also, like 70th or something.
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I got accepted to university of phoenix XD
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Fuck college admissions. That is the moral to this story.
Credentials:
+ Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing.
Accepted:
Franklin&Marshall
Dickinson
Waitlisted
Middlebury (understandable, hoping to get in off waitlist)
Richmond (LMAO FUCK THAT)
Rejected:
Harvard (EA)
Stanford
Rice
Northwestern
Vanderbilt
Amherst college
I'm so disappointed. Thought I'd get into Richmond for sure. Was hoping to get into one of Middlebury/Amherst. Sigh, I can't help but think my SAT scores really fucked up my chances. Got into my 2 safety schools, but oh well.
Working my ass off for 4 years with these shit results?
I advise anyone reading this to drop out and create Apple, because there is no other way to get into Ivy. Unless you have legacy, of course 
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Accepted: HanSei University Masters Program in Gyeong gi do Korea, Full Scholorship (tuition + Studio Apt)
Nyack College in NYC
Rejected: Yonsei University in Seoul Korea
For stats:
3.85 GPA
White male from Bronx, NY
Good luck tot he rest of you
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On March 31 2013 02:29 darthfoley wrote:Fuck college admissions. That is the moral to this story. Credentials: + Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing. Franklin&Marshall Dickinson WaitlistedMiddlebury (understandable, hoping to get in off waitlist) Richmond (LMAO FUCK THAT) Rejected:Harvard (EA) Stanford Rice Northwestern Vanderbilt Amherst college I'm so disappointed. Thought I'd get into Richmond for sure. Was hoping to get into one of Middlebury/Amherst. Sigh, I can't help but think my SAT scores really fucked up my chances. Got into my 2 safety schools, but oh well. Working my ass off for 4 years with these shit results? I advise anyone reading this to drop out and create Apple, because there is no other way to get into Ivy. Unless you have legacy, of course
This is me. I got waitlisted at Tufts, but apparently I have a good shot at getting in. I'm checking today if I got into USC, I'm giong to jump for joy if I did. Fuck college admissions. I've seen people with worse resumee's than me get into better schools simply by being a minority, this is so frustrating lol.
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For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission?
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On March 31 2013 02:29 darthfoley wrote:Fuck college admissions. That is the moral to this story. Credentials: + Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing. Franklin&Marshall Dickinson WaitlistedMiddlebury (understandable, hoping to get in off waitlist) Richmond (LMAO FUCK THAT) Rejected:Harvard (EA) Stanford Rice Northwestern Vanderbilt Amherst college I'm so disappointed. Thought I'd get into Richmond for sure. Was hoping to get into one of Middlebury/Amherst. Sigh, I can't help but think my SAT scores really fucked up my chances. Got into my 2 safety schools, but oh well. Working my ass off for 4 years with these shit results? I advise anyone reading this to drop out and create Apple, because there is no other way to get into Ivy. Unless you have legacy, of course
I know a girl who got into Princeton and Stanford. She's one of the most impossibly boring people I've ever met, and she isn't even terribly bright. Possibly the smartest and nicest guy I've ever met got rejected from Amherst. So yeah, don't swallow the whole, "where you got into college is a reflection of you thing," because it's bullshit.
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g/f got in to UMN Carlson for grad school, woohoo  (I ain't fuckin' moving back to that frozen barren wasteland, but still a great school).
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On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission?
Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, and both schools are prestigious enough. What matters are your LORs (cozy up to profs, bonus points if they know profs at the schools you are applying to) and research experience.
For law school, go to the place where you can get the highest grades.
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On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, and both schools are prestigious enough. What matters are your LORs (cozy up to profs, bonus points if they know profs at the schools you are applying to) and research experience. For law school, go to the place where you can get the highest grades.
There should be a featured thread on TL about grad school admissions to ease the worries of fine folks like tozi (for all types of programs, since they vary in what they look for).
I agree with babylon - to a point - about "[going] to the place where you can get the highest grades."
If you're smart and driven, you can get good grades. It's not that hard. Pick a school that you like and a major that you like. If you can wrangle a 3.5 GPA in history (and let's be honest - who can't) and a 90th percentile LSAT, you have a fighting chance at most law schools. The name of your undergrad has very little bearing on your application. Smart is smart. I can't speak to other grad programs.
College is more about discovering yourself as a person. It's the only four years of your life where you can literally do anything and justify it as an academic learning experience. Make sure the school you pick is one you can be happy at.
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BU is a nice place. Pleasant part of the city, easy access to every other part of the city, lovely ivy covered buildings. Plenty of extracurricular things available. The major cons with BU are that (1) you aren't BC, and (2) that you are in the middle of a city, which isn't for everyone. I recommend visiting.
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On March 31 2013 03:39 remedium wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, and both schools are prestigious enough. What matters are your LORs (cozy up to profs, bonus points if they know profs at the schools you are applying to) and research experience. For law school, go to the place where you can get the highest grades. There should be a featured thread on TL about grad school admissions to ease the worries of fine folks like tozi (for all types of programs, since they vary in what they look for). I agree with babylon - to a point - about "[going] to the place where you can get the highest grades." If you're smart and driven, you can get good grades. It's not that hard. Pick a school that you like and a major that you like. If you can wrangle a 3.5 GPA in history (and let's be honest - who can't) and a 90th percentile LSAT, you have a fighting chance at most law schools. The name of your undergrad has very little bearing on your application. Smart is smart. I can't speak to other grad programs. College is more about discovering yourself as a person. It's the only four years of your life where you can literally do anything and justify it as an academic learning experience. Make sure the school you pick is one you can be happy at. -- BU is a nice place. Pleasant part of the city, easy access to every other part of the city, lovely ivy covered buildings. Plenty of extracurricular things available. The major cons with BU are that (1) you aren't BC, and (2) that you are in the middle of a city, which isn't for everyone. I recommend visiting.
Wow, thanks for that.
That really helps alot because my main disappointment in not being able to get into an ivy was that it would affect my chances in the future (as in, even if I work really hard, getting an amazing gpa and lsat, I still wouldn't be competitive). I would just expect that a place like Harvard Law would be accepting 95% of its students from the ivy league.
Also, is BU that inferior to BC?
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As the mod note states don't wallow in misery lol Even Warren Buffet was denied from harvard =p
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On March 31 2013 04:17 tozi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 03:39 remedium wrote:On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, and both schools are prestigious enough. What matters are your LORs (cozy up to profs, bonus points if they know profs at the schools you are applying to) and research experience. For law school, go to the place where you can get the highest grades. There should be a featured thread on TL about grad school admissions to ease the worries of fine folks like tozi (for all types of programs, since they vary in what they look for). I agree with babylon - to a point - about "[going] to the place where you can get the highest grades." If you're smart and driven, you can get good grades. It's not that hard. Pick a school that you like and a major that you like. If you can wrangle a 3.5 GPA in history (and let's be honest - who can't) and a 90th percentile LSAT, you have a fighting chance at most law schools. The name of your undergrad has very little bearing on your application. Smart is smart. I can't speak to other grad programs. College is more about discovering yourself as a person. It's the only four years of your life where you can literally do anything and justify it as an academic learning experience. Make sure the school you pick is one you can be happy at. -- BU is a nice place. Pleasant part of the city, easy access to every other part of the city, lovely ivy covered buildings. Plenty of extracurricular things available. The major cons with BU are that (1) you aren't BC, and (2) that you are in the middle of a city, which isn't for everyone. I recommend visiting. Wow, thanks for that. That really helps alot because my main disappointment in not being able to get into an ivy was that it would affect my chances in the future (as in, even if I work really hard, getting an amazing gpa and lsat, I still wouldn't be competitive). I would just expect that a place like Harvard Law would be accepting 95% of its students from the ivy league. Also, is BU that inferior to BC?
They're not so different that you should go to BC even if the superior program and feel of the campus life is in BU. They're both Top 100 colleges in the United States, with BC generally ranking in the Top 50.
Here's an in-depth comparison of them: http://bestcolleges.collegenews.com/compare/1893-1895/Boston-College-BC-vs-Boston-University-BU
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On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, .
Not sure why people keep saying this, in my experience it is not true at all.
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I am a freshman at BU if anyone wants me to answer some questions about it I can try to help.
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Reading this thread (and having read the ones from earlier years) I can't help but always become surprised/thoughtful about the state of the education in my country. Sweden is always touted as having a great education system (partially because it's (almost always) 100% free), but I practically slept my way through 12 years of public education (there are only a handful of private schools in sweden, and they're not considered "better", just stricter/more exclusive) and I can get into any university/program I want in the entire country based solely on test scores. Compare that to the discipline that you guys seem to have, along with the huge emphasis on extracurricular activities (of which basically 0 exist here, besides student council, and it still does nothing to help you get into university), winning awards (science competitions etc. are extremely rare and do nothing for your application), as well as essays (don't exist) and interviews (don't exist), it just feels like a completely different world compared to our university system.
Which feels pretty nuts considering I could apply for (and probably be accepted to) a student exchange for any of the Ivy league schools that the university I study at have a relationship with (which I believe is all of them).
tl;dr I feel my country's lack of emphasis on university education/application screening puts us leagues below the US (and presumably other countries that do the same).
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On March 31 2013 04:47 KlaCkoN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, . Not sure why people keep saying this, in my experience it is not true at all.
I think it depends. I know that within Canada, your undergrad doesn't matter too much as long as you don't come from the bottom universities. Within Ontario, there is University of Toronto, MacMaster, Western, Queens, York, Waterloo, Ottawa, and Guelph. This list pretty included the majority of universities in Ontario. From a Canadian gradschool committee point of view, the undergrad education from these universities are more or less equivalent. The situation would be different for international students. I imagine there would be more scrutiny on where your undergrad's is if you wanted to go to England for your graduate's studies. I find the most important thing for Gradschool application is to know your PI before working there. That makes your life alot easier for gradschool education.
EDIT this is for biology and chemistry streams. Dunno about other fields lol.
Forgot Western. Hue. Although realistically speaking, york and guelph are a tier below since they are not in the U15.
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On March 31 2013 02:22 tr569 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 01:51 wei2coolman wrote:On March 31 2013 01:23 Recognizable wrote:On March 31 2013 01:04 julianto wrote:On March 30 2013 23:36 wei2coolman wrote:On March 30 2013 16:23 Disregard wrote:
SATs and GPAs don't matter as much for Ivys anymore, they're looking for talent and creativity or if you're good at sports. The admission rates for them are so inflated due to every other student trying to get in. SAT + GPAs are just a "filter" for Ivy Leagues now. That means they'll auto filter out anyone who's GPA and SAT aren't high enough; then they go through the rest of admissions. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/19/fears-of-an-asian-quota-in-the-ivy-league/statistics-indicate-an-ivy-league-asian-quotaInteresting article; I think it's sort of a known secret that Ivy leagues have been starting to limit the percentage of AA in their schools; otherwise they'd end up like UC system where it's like 40% asian americans. Pour more money into the universities with no affirmative action so that they become better than the Ivies. I don't think that'll help much. One of the reasons Ivy's are the best is because everyone thinks they are the best and thus attract the most talent/funding and best professors. UC's are proof otherwise. Best public school system, and offers comparable education, and more often than not rank in the same places as IVY leagues. UCSD/UCLA/UCB; all rank equally with Ivys, and are much cheaper. Ivy tuition cost is expensive as fuck, but that's more so because it's a private school system, not because they're "top tier". A lot of private universities cost as much as Ivy league schools, even if they aren't as well known. Even the lower UC System schools like UCD/UCI/UCSB/UCSC/UCR, rank very favorably over all in comparison to overall top universities in the US. According to recent rankings, UCD (not overall), has matched, and even in some cases, out ranked some Ivy leagues. Overall ranking for UCD is relatively good also, like 70th or something.
What
UC Berkeley and UCLA are good and maybe one or two others are top 30/40 (I don't remember) compared to the lowest-ranked Ivy (Cornell), which is like 15th. Tuition for UC's out-of-state is still like 50K, and compared to other places, getting financial aid is impossible out-of-state. The best thing I think the UC system is prevent a lot of good students from leaving the state.
EDIT: this is not to poop on the UC system-- I more than likely would have gone there (probably UCLA) if I had stayed in California.
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On March 31 2013 04:56 zz_ wrote:
Reading this thread (and having read the ones from earlier years) I can't help but always become surprised/thoughtful about the state of the education in my country. Sweden is always touted as having a great education system (partially because it's (almost always) 100% free), but I practically slept my way through 12 years of public education (there are only a handful of private schools in sweden, and they're not considered "better", just stricter/more exclusive) and I can get into any university/program I want in the entire country based solely on test scores. Compare that to the discipline that you guys seem to have, along with the huge emphasis on extracurricular activities (of which basically 0 exist here, besides student council, and it still does nothing to help you get into university), winning awards (science competitions etc. are extremely rare and do nothing for your application), as well as essays (don't exist) and interviews (don't exist), it just feels like a completely different world compared to our university system.
Which feels pretty nuts considering I could apply for (and probably be accepted to) a student exchange for any of the Ivy league schools that the university I study at have a relationship with (which I believe is all of them).
tl;dr I feel my country's lack of emphasis on university education/application screening puts us leagues below the US (and presumably other countries that do the same).
well the U.S. is probably the only country in the world that puts this much emphasis into university applications. most other countries is just testing.Or you're practically led into a university. i don't know that the rigor of the process necessarily produces better individuals though.
from a canadian perspective ,where university applications is more of a dummy check, seeing all of these qualified individuals in this thread basically get rejected by 70% of the universities is disheartening.
in canada you get evaluated only in your grade 12 year. if you get a 90% in your first 4-5 months of grade 12 then you can get into pretty much any university. it's pretty ridiculous. for example the dude at the top of the page with a 3.71 UW GPA and numerous extracurricular accolades probably could have gotten into any university in canada. (bc perspective, i don't know about ontario schools but i'd assume it's similar)
funny thing is, however, that i have a friend who got 1900 on his SAT's get into cornell. hmmmm
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On March 31 2013 05:29 shawster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 04:56 zz_ wrote:
Reading this thread (and having read the ones from earlier years) I can't help but always become surprised/thoughtful about the state of the education in my country. Sweden is always touted as having a great education system (partially because it's (almost always) 100% free), but I practically slept my way through 12 years of public education (there are only a handful of private schools in sweden, and they're not considered "better", just stricter/more exclusive) and I can get into any university/program I want in the entire country based solely on test scores. Compare that to the discipline that you guys seem to have, along with the huge emphasis on extracurricular activities (of which basically 0 exist here, besides student council, and it still does nothing to help you get into university), winning awards (science competitions etc. are extremely rare and do nothing for your application), as well as essays (don't exist) and interviews (don't exist), it just feels like a completely different world compared to our university system.
Which feels pretty nuts considering I could apply for (and probably be accepted to) a student exchange for any of the Ivy league schools that the university I study at have a relationship with (which I believe is all of them).
tl;dr I feel my country's lack of emphasis on university education/application screening puts us leagues below the US (and presumably other countries that do the same). well the U.S. is probably the only country in the world that puts this much emphasis into university applications. most other countries is just testing.Or you're practically led into a university. i don't know that the rigor of the process necessarily produces better individuals though. from a canadian perspective ,where university applications is more of a dummy check, seeing all of these qualified individuals in this thread basically get rejected by 70% of the universities is disheartening. in canada you get evaluated only in your grade 12 year. if you get a 90% in your first 4-5 months of grade 12 then you can get into pretty much any university. it's pretty ridiculous. for example the dude at the top of the page with a 3.71 UW GPA and numerous extracurricular accolades probably could have gotten into any university in canada. (bc perspective, i don't know about ontario schools but i'd assume it's similar) funny thing is, however, that i have a friend who got 1900 on his SAT's get into cornell. hmmmm
Thanks man, it's just so hard to get "in" to the Ivies if you aren't legacy or done something dramatically revolutionary. Hey, there's always transferring/grad school!
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